Gore Vidal refers to the USA as “the United States of Amnesia.” Sad but true. As recently as 1989, we invaded the ridiculously puny nation of Panama, toppled the government, arrested its head of state
(Noriega) as a narco-trafficker, etc., and tried him in the United States, where he remains a “guest” of our federal government for something like 30 years.

Somehow this was a great amd glorious victory for the Stars and Stripes and the cause of human decency ...

The hypocrisy is nauseating ...

Saakashvili was brought to power in a US-engineered coup run on the ground by US-funded NGO’s, in an application of a new method of US destabilization of regimes it considered hostile to its foreign policy agenda. The November 24 2003 Wall Street Journal explicitly credited the toppling of Shevardnadze’s regime to the operations of “a raft of non-governmental organizations . . . supported by American and other Western foundations.”

These NGOs, said the Journal, had “spawned a class of young, English-speaking intellectuals hungry for pro-Western reforms” who were instrumental laying the groundwork for a bloodless coup.

But there is more. The NGOs were coordinated by the US Ambassador to Georgia, Richard Miles, who had just arrived in Tbilisi fresh from success in orchestrating the CIA-backed toppling of Slobodan Milosevic in Belgrade, using the same NGOs. Miles, who is believed to be an undercover intelligence specialist, supervised the Saakashvili coup.

It involved US billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Georgia Foundation.

And it involved the Washington-based Freedom House whose chairman was former CIA chief James Woolsey.

It involved generous financing from the US Congress-financed National Endowment for Democracy, an agency created by Ronald Reagan in the 1980’s to “do privately what the CIA used to do,” namely coups against regimes the US Government finds unfriendly.

George Soros’ foundations have been forced to leave numerous eastern European countries including Russia as well as China after the 1989 student Tiananmen Square uprising. Soros is also the financier together with the US State Department of the Human Rights Watch, a US- based and run propaganda arm of the entire NGO apparatus of regime coups such as Georgia and Ukraine’s 2004 Orange Revolution. Some analysts believe Soros is a high-level operative of the US State Department or intelligence services using his private foundations as cover. (continued)

“Soros Backs Georgia Puppet Saakashvi
by F. WILLIAM ENGDAHL

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2&contentid=5351&page=2

It’s not just Saakashvili’s fault, he also has his two Jewish/Israeli ministers who are directly involved in the invasion.  I guess the Russians were tougher then the Palestinians

Davit Kezerashvili, Georgia’s Minister of Defense

Temur Yakobashvili, Georgia’s Minister of State for Reintegration of Georgia

“Are secessions and the dissolution of nations laudable only when they advance the agenda of the neocons, many of who viscerally detest Russia?” -Buchanan, from the article

‘Czar Putin’, smashing Weimars.  Putin, uping those White birth rates.  Putin, flexing those military muscles.

The Russian people love him, Saint Solzhenitsyn gave his blessing. 

Whitey just won’t lay down and die.  Like a bad horror movie it is.  Oh pain!

Stubborn whitey, bad whitey.

My heart is sad for the civilians in Georgia, Abkazia and S Ossetia who have lost family members, been injured and have had their homes destroyed.

I hope that the PNAC/Neocon crowd doesn’t prevail upon some of our so-called “allies” (*rolling eyes*)to ratchet this up in Chechnya.
(I wouldn’t put anything past this administration.)

Pat absolutely nails this one. Power brings hybris and the golden rule “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you” is easily forgotten if there is no one to “do unto you”. Moral leadership involves resisting the temptations of power and setting an example for others. Seems the US has been setting bad examples lately.

The analogy he makes with our Hemisphere is a point I had in mind, and I am pleased to see someone of his stature make it as eloquently as Buchanan does.

Listening to the statements made by this administration in regard to the attack launched by Georgia, one does not know whether to laugh or cry. Anything coming out of this administration has to be interpreted as the opposite if one wants anything resembling the truth.

We can probably expect some more of the quick wars out there somewhere before the election. The neo-cons are too pathologically paranoid to leave anything to chance. 50-50% polls are not going to give them peace of mind.

Europe is all neo-con now, Latin America is virtually all Communist, China is happy to be the world’s factory/slave state, and saddest of all, the US has been turned into the evil empire now.

And just what will the neo-cons do once they have a neo-con-installed puppet goverment in Russia and elsewhere? What is the ultimate goal here aside from the mad control-the-planet mania?

Quite, Mr Buchanan.

There are many wonderful articles here about Georgia, but Pat’s is the best.

Why aren’t America and Russia allies?  The USA is a Christian country.  Largest population of Christians is Catholic.  Russia is a Christian country with an overwhelming number of Russian Orthodox Christians, and Prime Minister Putin is one of them.  The two nations have much in common.
Preventing a harmonious relations are very powerful anti-Christian Israeli dual citizens in America.
America is fighting one war to please Israel in the Middle East, now Israel wants Americans to fight another against Russia so the Israeli puppet government in Georgia can expand.  “TheGeorgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew.” Also “[G]eorgia’s defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew…”.  Quoted from news service Y net news con at http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3580136,00.html
We have anti-Christian pro-Israeli neo-cons in America joining up with their counterparts, Hebrew speaking Israeli Firsters in Georgia, conspiring to have Christian Americans and Christian Russians kill each other.
For good or bad reasons the anti-Christian financiers have hated Russia.  Jacob Schiff contributed millions to the Bolsheviks to overthrow Christian Russia and kill the Czar and his family.

George Soros he was behind the 2003 Rose Revolution that deposed President Eduard Shevardnadze and replaced him with Mikhail Saakashvili. 
After you strip away all the duplicity and false flags one sees that most of the unrest in the America can be traced back to a little country in the Middle East and their backers.

“The crackdown against the oligarchs resulted in agonized complaints about the demise of democracy in Russia, and we are sure to see more such complaints in the wake of the invasion of Georgia. The neocons much preferred a democracy in which the Jewish oligarchs completely controlled the media and could buy large blocs of the Duma — in other words, a democracy that much more resembles our own.” -Editorial, Occidental Observer

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.com/articles/Editorial-Georgia.html#Georgia

The neocons are pissed at ‘Czar’ Putin.  Stubborn whitey, bad whitey.

It’s very frustrating. The impression most folks have in watching the corporate news media is that Russia invaded Odessia, when in fact, it was GEORGIA who invaded Odessia, and the Russians just kicked them out.

The hypocrisy of the USA is mindboggling when you compare it to Kosovo, in which the roles were switched, the US was helping the breakaway gang of muslim terrorists steal Kosovo from Serbia. Yet to the most of the public, the whole episode was caused by Serbia attacking Kosovo, and the USA coming to the rescue, and stopping genocide, which was of course, ONLY practiced by the Serbs. Yeeech!

The corporate news media reminds me of old Soviet Union style TV...constantly telling the public that this 5-year plan was successful, or some communist inspired social engineering was successfully implemented. The message is that the US is NOT a free republic, our news media is no more “free” then any other tyrannical regime, and that you need to kill your television set to be really “free"…

Israel is touting its support of Georgia in its own press. Does that mean it is confident of pulling
or directing the u.s. into a war with russia? In neocon/Israel run america the tail usually alleges it is
*not wagging the dog. Can someone explain to me why israel is visibly touting in its own press that it
supported the Georgian move and Georgia with equipment etc. all along in its invasion of the russian
populated, breakaway province of south Ossetia? Does a McBama or O’Cain victory mean a war with russia?
I’m just asking as a relatively educated, and so relatively uneducated person. Any experts? Should we
batten-down-the-hatches in the u.s. expecting another possible false flag attack as a provocation? What
does Poland know in suddenly accepting the u.s. anti-missile system after years of not wanting to do it?
Our financial system in the u.s., the oligarchical debt system is like a juggernaut requiring war or the next infusion of capital or foreign acquisition of resources (more like a ponzi scheme than not in reality)
to stay afloat. If we do not change/adjust our own system and put this house in order, is war then
inevitable (as usual-since the system came into being-and was designed that way!?) There’s the hidden
cause of our need to be hypocritical, and allegedly ‘not see’ it. It’s a world of degrees. We’re all
hypocritical to some degree and adults acknowledge it. So what do you call adults who are hypocritical
but either don’t see it or allegedly don’t see it - I call them philistines. The three biggest philistines in the world today are israel-u.s.-England. It’s after all - their actual System...follow the money...that’s
their System or it tanks without the next infusion from ‘somewhere’ of capital or resources...it’s the
oligarchical, debt-system Shuffle. Someone should put it to music. Our financial system as it is today
is a juggernaut requiring global domination or it implodes without its next conquest. Isn’t it then also ‘hypocritical’ not to EXPECT your next war? Or is someone (perhaps me?) stupid. ? I really do hope
it’s me, not you. Really. Someone reassure me. Thank you’appreciate it.

As is well known, the New York Times is Jewish-owned and has often been accused of slanting its coverage on issues of importance to Jews. It is perhaps another example of the legacy of Jacob Schiff, the Jewish activist/philanthropist who backed Adolph Ochs’s purchase of the New York Times in 1896 because he believed he “could be of great service to the Jews generally.” -Dr. Kevin MacDonald, “Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movement”

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/UnderstandJI-3.htm

Jacob Schiff, hmmm, why does that name sound familiar?  Oh yeah, he was the Mr. Money Bags that gave Leon Trotsky millions to fund the Bolshevik revolution. 

But, but, but...they are not a monolith.  They are capitalists, Marxists, neocons, zionists. 

All euphemism.  First, last, and exclusively they are…

If we are to secure the existence of our people we must cease to speak in euphemisms and call things by their proper names.

Much paleoconservative commentary has been restricted to condemnations of neoconservative hypocrisy (”apply the Kosovo precedent to South Ossetia”) and overreaching (”don’t encircle Russia, you Russophobes!”). I have not seen much that attempts to “read” the events in Georgia without anti-neocon glasses. Here’s what I mean: the neocons view the event with tainted glasses. Georgia apparently has entered into a strategic relationship with the United States and Israel, and the current leaders there wish to join NATO. So the neocons support Georgia against Putin’s Russia, a regime they dislike. But the paleconservative commentators basically oppose Georgia’s move and support Russia on the same criteria. Well, the rightness or wrongness of Georgia’s attempt to reassert sovereignty in a renegade province and of Russia’s intrusion into sovereign Georgian territory does not depend upon the consistency or purity of neoconservative views on the matter. If neocons are hypocrites for not supporting South Ossetian secessionism after they supported Kosovar secessionism, what of paleocons who condemn the Georgian leaders for trying to regain territory that had been theirs for centuries after those same paleocons defended the Serbian thrust into Kosovo on the same grounds? Why are claims about Georgian atrocities believed immediately when some paleoconservative publications rehash every claim about Serbian atrocities, even years later?

Also, some critics of Georgia fall back on the “it’s all about oil” argument, as though that in and of itself were sufficient to render American pro-Georgian sentiment evil. If it really were all about oil, then we would be speaking about something that goes to American interests at least. Russia has strategically backed Iran against threats of attack, and is in a security deal with China. The Russians influence Europe by threatening to cut off the fuel supply. If the Europeans attempted to build pipelines that bypassed Russia, who could blame them? If Georgia, Azerbaijan, and the Central Asian republics bought into the deal, who could blame them? If Russia objected, who could blame them, BUT — if “it’s all about oil” is an indictment of American intervention in Georgia, it should be an indictment of Russian intervention as well. IF Russia is trying to keep its oil and natural gas monopolies by thwarting plans for pipelines *outside Russian territory,* then yes, the Russians are being aggressive.

I keep getting the sense that paleoconservative views are reductive and derivative — “wait and see what the neocons say, then vociferously rebuke them.” What would you say about the conflict in South Ossetia if you had no clue which side was pro-Western, pro-NATO, pro-American, or pro-Israeli, or which side the neocons defended?

Also, many speak of the encirclement of Russia.  Truth is, many of the countries that surround Russia simply don’t
want to be part of Russia’s sphere of influence.  They do not like Russia, and want to look westward.  And I don’t think we can blame them.

I agree with the above poster captainchaos. Culture matters so much in the human equation that it cannot
be transcended by us humans. We can as a form of transcendence, within the given limits elevate this fact
to consciousness about culture. If you’re a jew you’re of the judaic culture and not of the christian
culture. If you’re a muslim you’re of the Islamic culture not of the christian culture. This is
irregardless of what you think god is, or if you believe there is a transcendent god or believe there is
not a transcendent god that is merely the tip of the matter, not the preponderance of the cultural whole.
The West is so liberal its christian culture pushed it to believe it could allow other older cultures in its
midst and not be dominated by them. That is not correct. The Facts show time and time again that different
cultures occupying the same landscapes will always become the dominant less liberal culture. For example
the chinese culture is older, and less liberal than the judaic. When Jews set up camp there like their
culture set up camp in the West, they all became chinese. The older less liberal culture wins. That is why
the West has become judaicized, the older less liberal culture always wins. If enough muslims continue
to come into the West it will slowly become islamic not because islam is an older religion or culture but because
it is much less liberal. It is a human truth that a person brought up in one culture can no more change his
culture at the substantial level (except superficially) than a zebra can change its stripes. So yes we
ought to dispense with the euphemisms and identify people culturally because culture MATTERS. It’s that
complex and that simple in my opinion as a human, not a vulcan? Although I applies to Mr. Spock on Star
Trek as well. C’est la vie. Spock ‘believed’ in logic but even he forgot or failed to remember ‘logic’
is always only logic and can be made to show anything even opposites to be logically correct. Culture is
different and akin to the rock you ought to go out and kick, if you’re wondering if pain is real.

I keep getting the sense that paleoconservative views are reductive and derivative — “wait and see what the neocons say, then vociferously rebuke them.” -Tobias

I support Russia because Putin is doing at least something that will defend the existence of the White race (increasing White birth rates, securing valuable resources and living space).  WTF do you suppose the neocons (god I hate having to use these euphemisms - buts that’s part of ‘playing the game’)are up to?  Take out Israel’s enemies, expand settlements (that’s right, you got it, LEBENSRAUM), secure resources.

All the while they lobby and propagandize relentlessly to open the borders of Western countries to massive floods of non-Whites. 

YOU GOT THAT?  THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

Their people are a genetically distinct one from our own.  They have their BIOCULTURE (which is the collection of evolved survival strategies that ARE AN EXPRESSION OF THEIR GENES) we have ours.  Yes, the ‘neocons’ (god I hate having to use these euphemisms) are NOT GENETICALLY EUROPEAN! 

Culture, culture, culture...no,no,no. 

BIOCULTURE!

What is it that they say about Haiti?  Ten percent Catholic and ninety percent voodoo.

NOT CULTURE, BIOCULTURE!

Captain Chaos,

If Israel were not involved, whom would you support in a conflict between Georgia and Russia
such as this conflict.  If you would support the Georgians, then Israel has taken the right
side.  You basically are saying, “I like Putin, so I don’t give a rat’s ass if he invades other
nations and violates their sovereignty.” Which is like saying, “I like Israel, so I don’t give, etc.”

Yes captainchaos we are both trapped and liberated by our biology. And different peoples in different
parts of the world are - based on their history, genes (perhaps), & culture in different ‘times’ in this
world. Bio-culture is a redundancy. CULTURE first (at this stage) etc. history, landscape, genes etc. is a Fact. Your problem with that in your obviously emotional quest for ‘genetic purity’ sadly retards again-sadly, all of
the rest of what you say is accurate - and screws us - if by us I can include myself. But otherwise I
agree with you. You’re in my opinion, though a tad wacky in your sentimental or emotional pursuit of
genetic purity. Jews for example understood if the mom is Jewish then *culturally the child would be. They
didn’t go nuts over ‘genetic’ purity. But then again their culture (and perhaps their *genes?) may be
older and/or wiser than yours? Apparently if winning consistently is a ‘judge.’ It’s not my judge but
it stands mentioning. CULTURE we *know matters. Get it, yet? The way humans ARE (whether you per se like
it or not) is not about who ‘genetically’ is top chimp. First we’re a culture, then sadly the less
evolved still want to be top chimp. That’s the how of How it is. To put it another way it’s BOTH nature
(genes) and nurture (culture, landscape, history etc.) No? Just hold two apparently conflicting thoughts
in your head simultaneously i.e. nature + nurture. You CAN do it!!! sorry, didn’t mean to sound
disparaging… of all things I’m not anti-White. Ok? Lend more credibility to what you indicate by not
being overly or in an imbalanced way sentimental or emotional. Right? Otherwise you are absolutely
correct, it ain’t rocket science. Although culture is even more complicated than that. Only god and/or
mother Nature can make a rock. Did you feel any pain?

Also, Captain Chaos, IT ISN’T ROCKET SCIENCE to see that DIATRIBES ABOUT CULTURE AND GENETICS DO NOT HELP DETERMINE who is right or wrong in the matter of the Russian invasion of Georgia.  SO STICK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND or SHUT UP!  (Please note, I was not the first to use capital letters in this little dialogue.)

First, Russia’s actions against Georgia were reactive, not pro-active.  Georgia started it, and Russia finished.

The hypothetical that you offered for me to respond to does not correspond with the reality we face.  Russia doesn’t so desperately need any resourses that Georgia has to secure the existence of its people.  If Georgia would have left Ossetia alone Russia would have left them alone. 

I will, however, play along.  Lets just say that Russia did need those resources to secure the existence of its people, would that have ‘justified’ an invasion?  Yes, from a Darwinian perspective, yes.  We live on a finite sphere with finite resources.  We compete for limited resources AS groups because group competition is adaptive (helps insure the continuity of our genes). 

What do you think of the fact that the White man ‘stole’ North America from the Indians?  Want to give that back?

I do think that resource competition between various White ethnies is suicidal at the stage (WWI and WWII).  I think we need to stick together and work together.  I want co-operation between all White countries.  But it seems that only Russia is pulling its weight.  The rest are engaged in a genocidal campaign of government enforced race-replacement.  Do you want your race to go extinct (I’m assuming you’re White)?  If not, then get your mind right and get on the right side of this thing.

Do I think that non-Whites should have their own places in this world?  Yes.  They have plenty and they are not entitle to ours. 

But do I put the needs of 70 IQ negroes in Africa on the same par with 100 IQ Europeans as far as right to priority of resources?  Hell no. 

We are the most beautiful, courageous, dynamic people to ever walk this earth.  That is a product of our genes. 

Do you want to lose all that?

Come on man, where is your heart, where is your soul, where is your love of your own people? 

We are doomed unless we wake up and take heroic measures to save ourselves.  We CANNOT ask ourselves whether or not the means will be too hard, demand too much sacrifice, or be too heavy handed.  There is only the Task, the Cause.

Unless our genes survive, intact, all is lost.

Tobias shut-up (too) it’s all relative and captainchaos is more right-on than you, in my humble opinion.
You’re wackier than he is. Me, I’m accurate, so there! Readers read jeff w. (above.) right-on!

“Your problem with that in your obviously emotional quest for ‘genetic purity’ sadly retards again-sadly, all of
the rest of what you say is accurate - and screws us - if by us I can include myself.” - jeff w.

So, we Europeans are not almost indistinguishably genetically similar to what we were, say, 1000 years ago?  Is it desirable for us to be such, say, 1000 years from now?  I say yes.  That is our right.  If we are not we will no longer be ourselves.  But if heroic measures are not taken we will not be.  We will effectively no longer exist, we will not be ourselves.  If your mother, whom you love, is changed, even slightly, she is no longer your mother, she is lost to you. 

That is a form of death, that IS death.  If you are a believing Christian you hope that she will not be lost to you.  You hope her essence will go on. 

I don’t know if their is anything beyond this world, but I know there is this life. 

I know that I love my people.  I know that I want them to go on, as they have for thousands of years, after I have expired.  That is the only ‘immortality’ that I can be assured of.

And we can assure it: if only we care, if only we try, if only we fight.

Absolutely brilliant article, Mr. Buchanan.

BTW To the commentor who thinks the Jewish rule to trace descent maternally is due to “culture”:  nothing to do with it; it is to stop the outbreeding of Jewish men. You may want to use that old thing called Occam’s razor in these matters.

“DIATRIBES ABOUT CULTURE AND GENETICS DO NOT HELP DETERMINE who is right or wrong in the matter of the Russian invasion of Georgia.” -Tobias

Oh really?  If a building is on fire and your child, along with others, is stuck inside, which do you prefer be saved first?

What if ONLY ONE child could be saved?  Which would you save?  Your own of course.  Is that immoral?  You prefering the lives of those genetically closer to you than those of others?

What is only one fireman was available to save only one child, only he could do it?  He informed you that he was going to save another child, not yours.  You then promised that if he did not save yours you would kill him.  Is that ‘wrong’?

I guess you can see where I’m going with this. 

Please don’t make it so easy.  I prefer more of a challenge.

Amplification:  Lets say the above scenario holds except that your child is a young adult.  He is of the age where he can think and come to informed opinions.  He has utterly rejected Western culture and adopted another.

He is caught in that burning building with only one fireman to save him.  All the other young adults in the building are adherents of Western culture.  He (your son), the lone hold out.

Which do you prefer be saved?  Your own son, of course. 

But, but, but...its about culture, not genes.

Sure about that?

What we are witnessing is far greater than the word “Blowback” implies.
We are witnessing the Burial of the neocon delusions that have guided U.S. policy towards the world since the demise of the USSR.
Here lie a few:
-the end of history
-Unipolar world
-Sole superpower
-we create our own reality
-The new american century
-a clean break, securing the realm
It shows how they have consistently overestimated our military, economic and soft power.
It shows we live in a multipolar world where the other guy knows how to make a tank and has a D*ck too.
It also shows that the neocon policy of trying to colonize Russia armed with oligarchs may have been premature.
BTW, The Israeli army was training the Georgians, I guess this involved all the techniques you can use to kill unarmed civilians.
No wonder when the boys came out to play Georgi porgi ran away…
Putting any further pressure on Iran is not on the agenda anymore.
The neocon policioes of mindless criminal wars in Iraq and afghanistan have left the U.S with niether the military, economic or moral authority to do squat about Russia today and who knows who tomorrow.

How long will so-called conservatives parrot communist propoganda about Georgia war crimes?

Goergia did not invade Ossetia to bring it under its heel (actually, it did try tio unify with Southern Ossetia offering it the same multi-cultral plan it gave to Adjaria, but the Russian-junta in Tskhinvali refused negotiations). Georgia counter-attacked a separatist regime, whose soldiers were killing Georgians in Georgia and Ossetia, under the cover of Russia. This was not a smart move in terms of geopolitics, but to blame Georgia aggression is to willingly fall for KGB agitprop.

Not only did Russia plan this whole war, instigate the fighting, and import Chechens and Cossacks to ethnically cleans Ossetia of Georgian, but the supposed casus belli, the supposed mass murder of Ossetians in Tskhinvali, was a lie.

Will any of those carrying Moscow’s Soviet-flavored water re-evaluate their position?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/48860.html

PS. Pat needs to check his facts again. The closing of the Straits of Tiran was not what caused Israel’s retaliation. It was the calls for genocide, followed by terrorist attacks, shelling of Jewish communities in Israel, and the mobilization of the United Arab Republic which caused Israel to respond to an ongoing state of war.

RonL,

It was the calls for genocide, followed by terrorist attacks, shelling of Jewish communities in Israel, and the mobilization of the United Arab Republic which caused Israel to respond to an ongoing state of war.

The threats made and the mobilization of Egyptian troops were not seen by Israeli command as a prelude to an Arab attack:

http://www.wrmea.com/jews_for_justice/1967war.html

“I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.”

Yitzhak Rabin, Israel’s Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68

“The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was ‘no threat of destruction’ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could ‘exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.’