The only problem I have with this line of thinking is the fact that the rest of us (Old Right) are on the same sinking ship with the rest of the fools. 
As history has shown, the ‘great unwashed’ take a lot time to right the wrongs and things have to get really bad before anyone willingly gives up their ‘beer and football’.

There does seem to be an apocalyptic and suicidal instinct in people.  We know all about the Left’s death wish.  The fundamentalist Christians are all giddy about the Left Behind scenario.  Certain so-called Libertarians and Conservatives have decided to slit their throats and become Obama-cons. 

Now it seems the Paleos have the same problem.  For a while now, there has been a segment here that is looking forward to the total takeover of the country by the Left, using the weak excuse that it will somehow wake up the population to what is going on.  Even the folks at Chronicles are crawling back into the catacombs and seem anxious to do so.

I am starting to have apocalyptic fantasies of my own.  Asteroid fantasies.  A nice, 30 mile wide asteroid just comes crashing in an takes out the whole mess.

Thanks Paul. I cannot help but share the same schadenfreude. John-Taki is wrong of course, it’s not “whining” at our age but an appropriate reaction to the reality of American life in our time.

I agree with Paul and tfg.  I mean you can only do so much to stop someone from jumping over a cliff and then all you can do is sit back and watch.  It’s not Like Paul hasn’t been fighting the good fight to stop this insanity.

Every American voter should ask himself two questions:
#1: Could McCain be a worse president than Bush?
the answer is no,he can’t, because his vice president is Sarah Palin and not Richard Cheney.
#2: Could Obama be a worse president than Bush? If one looks at Obama’s connections to Bill Ayers, to Tony Rezko, to the Chicago political machinery, to ACORN, to the Luo tribe in Kenya, to the crypto-communist New Party
in the 1990’s, the answer is YES. HE CAN.

For those who know me, it is clear with all due respect to John-Taki that I am not simply whining. I genuinely believe that a victory for Obama would be better for the Right than having McCain pull out an implausible win. Nothing could be worse than having a leftward drifting GOP with a zealous neoconservative foreign policy in charge of this country for the next four years. If O screws up badly enough, there may be redemption.

I agree with Paul,tfg and M. Nucci. It takes a lot to get the attention of people who are more interested in going bowling on Thursday night than in what the central government is doing to them, the current financial travails, e.g. I’ve been looking for a good backlash for a long time and we might see one in our lifetime.

Herman, as the old hymnal says, “I’m almost persuaded’ to go vote for McCain instead of staying home.
Mr. Gottfried is diagnosing a problem Pat has alluded to many times, namely, we are not one nation but several nations and the differences are becoming untenable.  Of course, we could separate peaceably and on relatively good terms but some people in power will never allow that to happen.

It should come as no surprise at all that the “change” our bamboozled populacho seeks is some kind of slouch into center-left imperialism.

When your economy has become primarily financialized and has pooched itself, your military is engaged around the world in serial counter-productivity but the majority still wants to run the flag up any failed endeavor, your industrial production is surrendered off-shore, your debt spree ends and your auto-makers scream for nationalization on the heels of the banks, exactly where else would a supplicant turn for help but from their government? The so called “private sector” is a receding memory. Anyone suggesting small government is considered mad.

The only unknown is what will be the response of this “Grand Theft Auto” generation when the circumstances finally wipe away the charade permeating our condition.

The pimp is taking care of his ladies, to be sure.

The only possible scenario for a rejuvenated right is a Democrat sweep followed by ham-handed Democrat overreach.  A strong economy might be able to withstand Obama for a while, but our present mess probably can’t. A McCain victory means our side gets blamed for the mess. With Obama, at least there is a chance to educate the teeming masses on the real source of their troubles.

As a parent, grandparent and patriot; I mourn the loss of my once free and optimistic Republic.

I blame the right and the left of the political spectrum for the current mess we find ourselves enduring. Both pridefully used their electoral victories to reshape the country according to the views of their base. They ignored the real problems in our society; issues that percolated for years!  They relished the “winner take all” view of a sports fan as opposed to the statesmanship required for successful governance.

Our leaders have allowed this country to be sold, piece by piece to foreigners.  The American peoples’ blood and treasure have been used to advance the wealth and agenda of elites who desired an Empire. Our politicians were too busy enriching themselves to pay attention to the country’s peril. And, sadly, we have kept reelecting them!

“"We have met the enemy and it is us!”--Walt Kelly

God Help Us!

Tis true that the next Pres. will most likely be a one term Pres.

Obama spending would bring on deinlfation. Food up, houses down and a dismal economy prolonged.

McCain, will he get anything done drasticly, with the congress mix?

Can Americans be weaned that quick from government. Well, when the tit dries up, they will.

Then the backlash will be more like a tunsami.

Esmerelda Pearl,

“I blame the right and the left of the political spectrum for the current mess we find ourselves enduring. Both pridefully used their electoral victories to reshape the country according to the views of their base.”

No.

When Republican pols ascended to power they most certainly did not reshape the country according to the views of their base.  Rather, they lied to us in order to get elected and then proceeded to govern with center-left aesthetic instincts spiced with a dash of American imperialism (i.e. securing “freedom” throughout the globe)

If old farts refuse to stand and lead like men what other recourse do they have but to whine like little bitches and keep their fingers crossed that the soap doesn’t slip out of their hands come shower-time.

Is worse better?  I don’t know, but it looks like that is what we are going to get; let’s try to make it work for us.

The Old Right is dead and no longer sufficient for our purposes; the New Right is more or less explicitly racialist - maybe you geriatric faileocons you take a hint.

Paul is too patient with some of these idiotic bloggers.  His strategy of “After Obama comes us” is far more realistic than the fantasy of a race-based rebellion, for reasons that Sam Francis alluded to decades ago.

Obama is a cool and cunning Chicago pol who may keep the GOP out of office for 8 years.  He will benefit from anti-Bush hatred for a long time, and he’s probably too smart to indulge the most radical leftists of his party.  Ergo, paleos probably shouldn’t expect too much outrage from an Obama hegemony.

“Obama winning the presidency does not translate into the end of racial stereotyping or the end of racial inequality.”

Indeed, whites will still be robbed, raped, assaulted and murdered by blacks even as only whites are charged with hate crimes.

Whites will still have to score 200-300 points higher on SATs to get into the same schools as blacks.

Blacks will still get the race based scholarships and government funded racial groups while whites will lose jobs and status if they are found to even think in racial terms.

In other words, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Gottfried is right.

Let’s just give Obama the keys to the house, while he’ll be facing a perfect storm.

Meanwhile the GOP can do some serious soulsearching. That wouldn’t be too bad.

And, hey, how much worse than Bush can Obama really be? Seriously.

Lord help us all!

Thank you Mr. Gottfried for mentioning the “Old Right.” In my opinion, and
I am a Classical Liberal/Libertarian in outlook, there will never begin to be any
positive change in this country until a substantial number of Americans discover and
adopt the principles of the “Old Right.”

If Obama is as clever as he appears to be, then he will tolerate the neoconservative opposition when it is in his interests.  In the name of “consensus,” he will call for transcending differences between Right and Left, especially if he needs neocon support for attacks on Pakistan and other failed states.  If he cannot get support from the GOP on these and other issues, he can simply bring up the disastrous legacy of his predecessor.  Just as Democrats ran against the ghost of Herbert Hoover for decades long after the 1929 Crash, so Democrats today will run against GWB for the foreseeable future.

“His strategy of “After Obama comes us” is far more realistic than the fantasy of a race-based rebellion, for reasons that Sam Francis alluded to decades ago.” -Vlad

Your cowardice, lack of vision, and a refusal to face the apocalyptic scale of the disaster that looms (the genocide of European Man) forms a self-fulfilling prophecy:  if any muscular resistance is futile then why bother resisting?

“Gottfried is right.” - Maciano

How’s that Mediterranean Union going?

Tell me, oh captain with the chaotic mind:  which whites will you allow into your racial paradise:
1) Hill Clinton?
2) Al Gore?
3) the New England states?
4) the Bushes?
5) big labor unions?
6) wealthy white college leftists?
7) Bill Ayer and wife?

No, of course you wouldn’t. Foolish me.  The 0.1% of the population that belongs to the Aryan Nation and Stormfront will change the nation, after all.  They have the big battalions, don’t they?  Where do you hold your meetings, Cappy?  In your widowed mother’s basement where you live?

Mr. Gottfried wrote “black night of oppression.” Obviously, a racist comment.

Sigh, and now, tho’ it pain my heart, I shall point out that I have my tongue firmly in cheek, and am only affecting the whiny hypersensitive victim mentality displayed by Left and Right these days in American politics.

Captainchaos

I always believed Theodor Adorno’s F-scale was idiotic and biased, but I must reconsider: some of it actually makes sense.

Darn, they pulled his post before I could tell him if he watches his language and shows more respect for his elders, pup might buy him GTA for Christmas.

The culling is already starting and this looks suspiciously anti-Palin. If you aren’t for Palin you are dead to the GOP. Your a liberal and a closet pro-abortion pro-gay liberal. The GOP maintains party discipline so start framing your Sarah shooting moose pictures or stop whinging cause you’ve no place to go cause you’re a RINO.

Sarah got her journalism degree in only 6 years and attended 5 colleges. Our future president didn’t whine that the lesser races kept her from a good school. Only liberal freaking America hating elites want to go a “good” school. Purge anyone that didn’t go to a state school cause Vocational Tech schools are the new Harvards of the GOP. That and Bible School. And only Bible Law School lawyers allowed. Bush should have made Jerry Fallwell his Attorney General and has paid for that omission.

funny, I’ve been making Prof. Gottfried’s argument all around town for some time.  That which is about to fall deserves to be pushed. The sooner the modern GOP falls into its grave the sooner the Old right can rise - if only to dance on it.

“Darn, they pulled his post before I could tell him if he watches his language and shows more respect for his elders, pup might buy him GTA for Christmas.

Posted by Constance Lurker on Oct 27, 2008.”

thumbs up

“If Obama is as clever as he appears to be, then he will tolerate the neoconservative opposition when it is in his interests....”

Mr. Havers, How true! Obama will need useful idiots to cow the moderates and the meek (Who have believed that “Bush kept them safe.") The Neocons seem to be the best suited for that task.  That’s probably why they were so adamant about sideling Ron Paul.  He preached a message that would have upset their plans; if the worker bees had a chance to really think about RP’s stance.

correction: “sidelining”
Sorry about that!

There is a catch-22 here.  Yes, the GOP richly deserves defeat.  I would even say that the coming long, black night is a requirement for the party to reinvent/refind itself. It’s probably the only chance for real conservatives to regain their party.

On the other hand, the idea that The Audacious One and his Liberal Cohort are going to screw up and pave the way for our resurgence is just wishful thinking.

The dems have one thing they put before their liberal agenda and that is maintaining their power.  They will be inheriting the largest and most powerful government ever as a tool to do just that.

The left takeover may well end up being permanent.  It’s nearly impossible to wean the people off of the government teat once they’ve been suckling long enough, and the left will do everything it can to make a society in which you cannot survive without suckling.

“They have the big battalions, don’t they?  Where do you hold your meetings, Cappy?  In your widowed mother’s basement where you live?” - Vlad

LOL!

Where do you cash your Welfare check, Vlad?  At the local Liquor-Beer-Wine-Groceries?

“...am only affecting the whiny hypersensitive victim mentality displayed by Left and Right these days in American politics.” - Kilted

It’s called kvetching.  Old man Gottried is finally giving his lemming-like readers some meat.  He should cultivate the habit.

“I always believed Theodor Adorno’s F-scale was idiotic and biased, but I must reconsider: some of it actually makes sense.” - Maciano

You think that the inter-marriage of tens of millions of racial aliens with Europeans is a swell thing.  You rate pretty high on The Captain’s G-scale (G for genocidalist).

Think about it this way, what if I were to recommend that a proportional number of Negroes be deposited in say, Japan, or Israel, and ever Jew or Japanese who was not a closet Fascist was to enthusiastically assist in mongrelizing their people out of existence?!?!

Only a sick, demented mind the likes of which I cannot comprehend (but apparently you can) would think that was anything less than a monstrosity.

Don’t you dare lecture me on morality!

Let’s see if the “brave” (heehee) “conservatives” (hahaha!) at takimag delete this post of mine, too, as with so many others - what are you afraid of? Apparently an articulate and intelligent racialist (inarticulate ones are obviously acceptable, as their posts do not get deleted). Takimag is part of The Problem, too (indeed, I am increasingly tempted by conspiratorialism - maybe this site was set up to allow for some ideological steam to get blown off, but of course, no serious discussion of the only REAL problem will be tolerated ...).

Here is how it is (for the umpteenth time). America, which is White America, is facing a long term trend of white racial dispossession, and New World Order absorption. The Dems (and all liberals) actively seek the biological replacement of whites with non-white immigrants, as well as the dilution of white racial purity through intermarriage and miscegenation. The GOP in some quarters supports this racial “amalgamationist” agenda, in others is indifferent to it, and in still others is too brainwashed and/or cowardly to do anything to resist it.

Whites as a race, and the West as traditionally understood, have been slated for extermination, or, preferably for all concerned, passive extinction.

What will we do to reverse this state of affairs? Here’s a start: endless whining and/or arguing is unhelpful. In my life I have found that, w.r.t. visceral issues like homosexuality, gun bans, or the decline and fall of White America, either the other party gets it, or he’s a fool and does not (there can be highly intelligent fools, such as the white professors at, say, Harvard Law, or writers at The New York Review of Books, as well as Chronicles). Argumentation with such persons is mostly useless. The task of defenders of the West is rather to get our racialist message (sans unnecessary neo-Nazism) out to those who are ‘latently’ with us; ie, whose mentalities are such as essentially to lean our way, but who in their lives have never been exposed to sophisticated arguments challenging multiculturalism, ‘brotherhood-of-manism’, miscegenation, etc.

Bickering (perhaps even blogging at all) on sites like this one is really a waste of time.

The outrage at Michelle Bachmann’s statement Obama is anti-American (and we also know anti-white) is the measure of its truth and relevance. Obama’s supporters can’t mention any reason to be for him, except for honest black nationalists.

Why does the chaotic cappy waste so much time blogging with “faleo-cons” (his term) when he could be planning beer-hall putsches?  Oh, I forgot, he has no friends and admirers.  He’s a legend in his own “mind,” such as it is.

This is the end of the American Empire and the problems are so deep and vast they will overwhelm all who try and solve them,

The only solution is to pull the enormous military forces home,cut the military budgets and live on our income..bye bye to bring policeman of the world..let all our sattelite states look after them selves...let go Georgia,Israel and Sth Korea..close the bases and give us a chance.or should I say “Give Peace a Chance”

Gosh, maybe the “Change” agent will enjoy veto-proof majorities in both Houses! Wow! He could make some real changes! Why, imagine living the rest of your life under a Supreme Court with a far-left majority. bye-bye guns!

Ah,Leon Haller, don’t think of it as “dilution of white racial purity,” but as dilution of the purity of all those other races.  Sort of like the leaven in bread. 

Little do those others know of your insidious plan to corrupt their genes with ours!