As an admirer of Pat Buchanan, I find his relentless fawning over Sarah Palin rather pathetic.  Palin is more embarrassed about her past support for Buchanan than her daughter’s fornication.  I assume the new conservative value system means that we are not to be judgemental about sexual promiscuity, but only about racism, sexism, and of course anti-Semitism.  Is Buchanan not aware of the fact that Lieberman led the lapdog Palin by the leash and had her do stupid pet tricks in front of AIPAC?

Memo to Pat: She dissed you!

So if we are plunging toward war because of Republican reflexive interventionism and Democratic complacency and timidity, why not endorse a candidate who wants to bring all the troops home, Chuck Baldwin? Frustrating.

Pat talks a good game but that’s his job. He is a Nixonian like Cheney and other senior Republicans. He always reliably leads the strays back to the pen like a good Judas goat.

Ahem, umm, everyone here seems to forget she is second on JOHN MCCAIN’s ticket; she may as well be on Bill Kristol’s.  She has already paid homage to AIPAC.  If she has any independence it will be gone within months. 

How can people let themselves get fooled like this? 

The route to success is Ted Kennedy’s; never be satisfied with anything less than 90% of what you want - when you have the wind behind you.  And we do. 

I think - DON’T TOUCH THIS WOMAN. 

If McCain croaked immediately it might not be so bad, but you can hardly count on that.

Pat is calling it as he sees it.  Palin is pissing off ALL the right people and this socially conservative mother of five and her kick-ass husband will probably be in the White House in 2012.

Whether she has the intelligence and foresight to prevent World War III (a real one, not a pretend one) remains to be seen, and I think that’s Pat’s only point.

Palin is pissing off ALL the right people

WHOOP DEE DOO.

She pisses off libs the same way Obama pisses off the cons.  She is the Antibama; she hits all the right emotional buttons with her constituency but is completely empty.  She has no experience or vision.  Anyone getting excited by her instantly shows himself as a idiot partisan hack.

yours in Christ,
Isamu

And you have a wonderful day as well you little cherub you.

Experience and vision in government are irrelevant.  In fact, they’re extremely dangerous.

Paul/Ventura ‘08

Say it ain’t so, Pat.

This in many ways brilliant man insists on shooting himself in the foot. He continues inwardly to yearn for the heady days when he was a bigtimer in the Nixon Administration.  Days when the powerful beltway elitists actually respected and listened to him rather than chuckle and wink at him.

Yes, he’s still good copy, marketable and has written several truly fine books decrying the direction that McCain/Palin and the Republicans will continue taking us at an even more acclerated pace than the Bushies. Herein lies the problem.

How to explain his unconcealed glee over Palin? His relative lack of concern over McCain, the only Republican certifiability more dangerous than George Bush.

It’s almost as if he’s nice enough to these clowns, maybe, just maybe they’ll invite him back in and those heady days of yore will return to him for one last triumphal run.

It’s depressing. He writes eloquently of the horrible foreign policy direction toward which these two are headed yet fails to denounce them and more importantly, renounce them clearly and without equivocation.

perhaps Mr Buchanan is getting out in front of the Ron Paul announcement this coming Wed at the Nat. Press Club in DC.  Barr and Baldwin will both be there.  I’m excited.

Distant Drums?

How about a Legal Gene Krupa Beagle playing “wipe-out” on Barry’s brow?

Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed

http://obamacrimes.com/

I hope Barry can run as fast as many other Kenyans.

It really is distressing to read this kind of cheerleading from Pat Buchanan.

It reminds me of Powell being the dutiful team player and going before the U.N. to utter what he knew to be complete a pack of lies.

Sad.

Ron Paul announcement this coming Wed at the Nat. Press Club in DC.

Maybe President McCain is the incentive Dr Paul needed to kick things up.

No disrespect intended, but there seems to be two Pat Buchanan’s. One is the cool and intelligent analyst whose work I enjoy reading in the pages of The American Conservative or Takimag.com and other places. The other is the angry, loud-mouthed, hand-waving, narrowly partisan, talking head of MSNBC. Had I not read the names, I would never be able to connect these two individuals in my imagination.

I was thinking about that last night as I watched Pat’s performance on the “instant analysis” panel. I couldn’t help thinking that “TV Pat” is a public personna, a role adopted to fill a need, just like one might hire an actor to fill role without thinking that the actor was really the person he portrayed. “OK Pat,” I imagine them saying, “get into your conservative gorilla suit; you’re on-stage in two minutes!”

In this post, we get one Pat; tonight, I suppose, we’ll get the other.

Will the real Pat Buchanan please stand up. Or sit down.

So, we will hit Iran in a few weeks.  I am going to hold you all to this and ifit doesnt happen, what then?

I remain wary and skeptical of Sarah Palin.  I read that she has an Israeli flag displayed right next to the American flag in her governor’s office.  If this is true, what kind of person would place a foreign flag in a place of honor in the governor’s office?

One of the reasons Palin has been attacked so viciously is because of her perceived alliance with Pat Buchanan and the paleocon movement.  Just look at the way Pat Buchanan has been treated by both neocons and liberals alike.  No libel or slander is too brazen for neocons to pin on real conservatives.  It’s why there are so few of them in prominent places.  Although this treatment has certainly taken its toll on Buchanan, he has taken it like a man.  It’s one thing to take abuse from your political enemies.  But the problem with being a paleocon is you have nothing but enemies in the Establishment.  I’m not at all convinced she won’t sell out her views.

When George Bush ran in 2000 he ran on a platform of a “humble” foreign policy where the US only intervened to protect national interests.  Then the neocons got ahold of him, and he did an about face on foreign policy.  I’m sure they’ll try to co-opt Palin too.  They’re almost certain to offer her “free advisers” to help her “come up to speed” on foreign policy--her big weakness, as it was Bush’s.  If she refuses to cooperate, the neocons will go after her just as viciously as the Jewish liberals are right now.  Like Bush was, she’s essentially a blank slate on foreign policy.

It’s also the case that her position on immigration is unknown.  But if she can convince me she’s anti-immigration, I’ll be holding my nose to vote for McCain.  But I do remain skeptical. 

Only time will tell.

“Palin is pissing off ALL the right people

WHOOP DEE DOO.
“

I’ll go palin happy when I get any indication that she would allow the other states the same independence from the federal government she supports for alaska.  as far as we know she is 100% on the same foreign policy page as McCain in that regard, a position that pat himself has criticized mcain for.

again, as far as i can tell she’s george bush redux.  just a blank slate with a conservative populist IMAGE.  see “journeys with george” sometime.  this is what it was like in 2000.  and look what he turned out to be

We must defeat BHO.He is my worst nightmare.BO would be the radical leftist president in the history of this country.I will hold my nose and vote for McCain.The idea of a black militant and his odious wife in the White house scares me.
Let’s be frank.Over 95% of blacks will vote for BO-unless whites turn out strongly for McCain this country will have a candidate who is a threat to all I hold dear.

. If this is true, what kind of person would place a foreign flag in a place of honor in the governor’s office?

Me. Were I Governor, I’d have this is my office…

http://flagspot.net/flags/va.html

“Me. Were I Governor, I’d have this is my office…

http://flagspot.net/flags/va.html”

I wish everybody were as forthright about where their true loyalties lie.

You stay loyal to your alien church that hates my people and culture.  I’ll stay loyal to my people and culture.

Barack Obama goes on Oreilly and calls the surge a great success. Then he tells Oreilly that Iran can not have nuclear weapons. Biden flies to Georgia and tells them he will give them a billion in aid. I will take Mccain as commander in chief over these 2 any day. Sarah Palin is a good and smart woman. Let her get in the job and she will show you.

I have no objection to this article. Why is everyone obsessing over the intro paragraphs? Palin’s speech was a good speech. Palin is a great pick by McCain’s handlers- just don’t tell us McCain picked her- he’s probably never heard of her and he seems very uncomfortable standing next to her or next to anyone who’s not his rabbi Lieberman for that matter. She did energize the party. Even I’m energized at the prospect of a decent regular person like her and her beatiful family gaining political power in this country where historically the worst win. But I’m just as aware that AIPAC already got to her and that she would have to have nearly superhuman principles to put America first and reject AIPAC, which would of course mean the end of her candidacy.

But this article is about the wars the neocons are readying and Pat is doing us a service by reminding us what’s coming. The party is over, now let’s get back to business before Chaneisrael launch a surprise attack against someone somewhere.

Mr Buchanan states:

”Yet, as the familiar battle lines form up for the delicious eight-week war that lies ahead, one hears a distant thunder. And the seriousness of the hour we are in comes home.”

He goes on to discuss Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Iran, Israel, Russia, the Balkins and NATO....

All of them reasons to join ranks and make sure that a Marxist, racist, community organizer (Palin probably gave the kindest definition...)with “suspect associations” (as far as I can see)---as the next POTUS!

Perhaps Mr. Buchanan knows something that we don’t (as of yet) have knowledge of...????

I’m watching MSNBC right now...Pat nailed it...McCain’s speech...It’s about character

Let’s face it folks; character counts...when you’re faced with hard times and danger...character counts!

Sarah Palin is a good soldier in the cultural wars. So, at that level, give her the benefit of the doubt.

Whether she will be (or already is) co-opted by the neo-cons, we will wait and see. Just attending a meeting with AIPAC is not necessarily conclusive. I am reminded of Ronald Reagan attending a sit-down with among others David Rockefeller post election but before assuming office. Sometimes hard-minded people have to outwardly genuflect for others to deflect antagonism from their real purposes. We can hope, anyway.

A month ago this race was a foregone conclusion. Obama had it sewn up with the out with the old and in with the new.  He was becoming smug and glorious in his new-found fame.  Conservatives who had no affinity for McCain were no-longer relishing the dysfunction in the Republican party; rather, they were realizing that an unabashed and unrestrained BHO could really be hell on earth.  And, because McCain was tired, old, lame and more of the same we were DOA against Obama. The hopelessness was almost pervasive, and we couldn’t make a joke about McCain to laugh it away. Along comes Sarah Palin, and we have a race.  Obama might actually have to say something.  He can no-longer skate in on “Change.” Can you blame Pat for his enthusiasm for SP?  In politics nobody (save Ron Paul) is perfect.  And, my perfect is likely different from yours.  But, watching the Dems tremble, squirm, and whine is worth whatever sacrifice we had to endure to get her on this ticket.  I work with a bunch of libs.  They are apoplectic.  That is enough for me, and probably enough for Pat.  He isn’t in love with SP.  He is in love with the result.  Now, we all have something to talk about.

Those who are accusing Buchanan of Republican “cheerleading” or “fawning” over Pailan obviously have either not read his article or are deliberately misrepresenting it.  His concern over the foreign policy predicaments into which the neoconservatives and the Bush Administration have put us is plain for anyone to see.  There has been no one - and that includes his anonymous critics here - in American politics over the past twenty years who has more courageously stood up for the truth than Pat.  Let’s at least show him the respect of not distorting what he has actually said and written.

I agree Tony.........Palin is Alice in Wonderland that hasn’t even met the power brokers that are manipulating her.

Tony,

i disagree.

Perhaps you have a point in that i may have misinterpreted the opening paragraphs above ("died and gone to heaven”, “wild enthusiasm”, etc.) - perhaps he was talking about the party base rather than his own personal opinion.

Perhaps.

However, in light of what he wrote in his other recent article - Johnny’s got a new girl - i think that calling this partisan cheerleading is accurate.

It is ESPECIALLY distressing because, as you rightly point out, Pat has not hesitated, in most instances, to speak truth to power.

In any case, there really is no point getting excited or upset about this republican vs. democrat sham race.

There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two parties as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

Obama or McCain.  Either one will continue to make war upon the world and talking heads and media pundits will pontificate and analyze until the cows come home.

I’ll grant that the arrows Palin directed at Obama hit home.  No pussy-footing around the peecee implications, either.

But I have to agree with Paddy’s post:

“… there really is no point getting excited or upset about this republican vs. democrat sham race.

There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two parties as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

Obama or McCain.  Either one will continue to make war upon the world ...”

It really is a most depressing prospect.

Aside from this, I fail to understand how a woman can be against sex education in schools and yet be prepared to let her daughter get “banged up” at 16 /17and drop out of school altogether.  It is, quite simply, trashy.

Does any current writer have the grasp and knowledge of history Pat Buchanan has?  I don’t think so. Pat is on the money 90% of the time.  How can you dog this man when the “usual suspects” are so historically ignorant (including many of the stuped responders to this column.

More proof that while the Southern Avenger hits the bulls eye again and again with THE PALIN TEMPTATION, Mr Buchanan has done nothing but hit his head. 

Might want to get a check up with a doctor, sir.  We need to end the wars to balance the budget to save the dollar. 
RON PAUL! 
Let’s return to our SwiB roots. 
George Washington’s Farewell Address.

While the right may feel “invigorated” by Sarah the pertinent question remains, who is minding the store.
We seem to be oblivious of the fact that if Mcain is elected than we are guaranteed four more years of neocon policies of going deeper into unrepayable debt to wage foreign wars that are sucking the lifeblood out of the U.S economy in pursuit of a delusional neocon world view that is premised on the assumption that actions do not lead to reactions.
Pakistan just shut down supply lines to Nato Forces in Afghanistan. Our next option is to ask the Russians for help, which they will gladly do in exchange for the head of neocon Sakaashvili.
We keep feeding the beast that keeps delivering failure after failure.
The bottom line is that neither party can deviate from the neocon agenda.
The recent statement by Biden asserting that “AIPAC does not speak for Israel” may well have sealed his fate.
It seems we are going to have another rigged election if necessary to keep the neocons in power.

Al - you are correct about the election perhaps being rigged once again to keep the neo-cons in power. For example in crucial Ohio for decades and decades it was tradtion that the voting machines used to be taken home overnight by individual families to make sure there was no tampering with them in any way (i.e. rigging) prior to election day and sometimes after. Suddenly these individual families are no longer ‘trustworthy’ in Ohio and the machines are to be all corraled and stored in big ‘official’ locations. Wow - if that don’t smack of big brother. Anyway these electronic machines can even be tampered with on election day (as people are voting), from the near distance. Probably one day they’ll even be able to be tampered with from space. For these reasons in the state of Israel votes are written on paper and counted-by-hand in many places while being monitored, so no one really knows who won for sure for about a week. In the u.s., a nation the size of the entire european union, we seem to be able to know with certitude who won the same evening thanks to good ol’yankee ingenuity? Just ask Kattie anchor-girl at CBS she’ll tell everyone the neo-cons won only hours after the polls have closed. Superman told her.

I am the same age as Pat is.  I’ve followed him for many years and always respected and trusted him.  Since the last presidential election cycle both trust and respect are erroding.  If the direction I see heading countinues I will have to part company with someone I have always thought of as a friend.  A sad end for a previously great career.  Jerry

Jeff: You are right the election is rigged at the ballot box as a second last resort and at the sureme court if that fails but the whore process is also rigged by:
-The way issues are framed
- the way what is happening in the world is presented
-the things commentators in the establishment media focus on
- the issues that are taboo to discuss
- the conspiracy amongst the leading candidates not to mention the military zionist allaince and the logic of the global corporations whose interests no longer coincide with the U.S or american people.
Anybody who comes close like Al Gore is sidelined and mocked into an election “defeat”
Republican or democrat or whatever label we now use makes little difference except to divert attention from the real issues.
Meanwhile the inexorable logic of a war economy and the global corporation are the real determinants of the direction we take, and they don’t even have to be elected as they own anyone who comes close to being elected.

The reactions to this article are wildly misguided.  The first part of Pat’s column simply underscores what an admittedly smart and savvy move Sarah Palin’s nomination was.  The Culture War has indeed been rejoined and it’s about time.  The second part points out that meanwhile, as the Republicans party like its 1984, social and political forces have been put in motion that could well result in a third global war.  The overall tone of the column is that the Republicans do not quite appreciate what is in store. 

Pat is a Republican--that’s how he remains one of the few bona fide conservatives allowed in front of a TV camera.  And there is no question that an Obama presidency would be a PC/multy culty clusterf***--not exactly what you want minding the store when bloody, heavy metal Second Generation warfare breaks out.  Pat may be praising the lesser of two evils but again, that’s how paleo’s get even a sliver of their views broadcast.

For an informed account of the events leading to the Russian/Georgian war, see http://www.michaeltotten.com/

I guess we have to maintain the Eisenhower when he warned that the nation was at grave risk from the MIC was Misguided, and every leader since has been rightly guided by the MIC.
So lets talk of family values in a gathering where you had a 17 year old on parade who seemed not to have received either family or religious or moral values, and the only thing being glorified were the less than competent players in an evil misguided war of aggression waged against a small and forgiving nation.
I guess that makes the viet namese the ones with the christian values and us on parade like ceasar after one more “victory”. Pl excuse me i need to step outside to throw up, the nausea and BS is just too foul.

IN the world of moving pictures, phones & radio (print as well - these days usually in tow) marketing is everything - and if you can do direct marketing all the better.

Its principle (and it began way back when with the Sears Catalogue) is to tell the customer what you ALREADY *know they want to hear.

While also planning on how to cover yourself in terms of what they will get - so that it is neither returned to you, nor in the worst case scenario to be sued over it.

Sure (of course - that’s why it was done a ‘Palin’) 63% of Americans want to hear what Annie-get-your-gun Sarah ’said.’ Every marketer already KNOWS that.

(We do *not pay attention to the great unwashed, unless we’re manipulating them for profit.)

GREAT - her husband actually chops down trees or whatever it is he does as a manual laborer. There’s two questions: a.) does she even ‘believe’ what she says per se? (probably not to be cynical and to be healfully skeptical-probably not, even if she wants to - she’s a woman whether she likes that these days, or not, sadly - of course she should like/enjoy being her own gender, without having to act out being a man; & b.) besides the flapping of the lips - is it even remotely possible anything she said, or said she’s for and by inference she’s ‘like’, can come to pass in the current system, without a revolution? NO.

What’s all the ‘hope’ about? Even if she had gone off the teleprompter and said something like - “And this is what I pledge to you with my life itself - I will DESTROY Washington.” -?- Ok - now for the other 99% of it MY Queen - ‘how’?

Picking Palin is McCain desperately trying to distract the voters from the faltering
economy & the failure of Republican tax cutting economic policies by re-energizing the
culture war. The Republicans have been playing this tired old game for a long time, and it’s getting
really old. That game is talking like populists to win elections but governing like
economic plutocrats. It is a real farce.

Palin will have NO effect on changing anything, McCain will continue the Bush2 (Wall Street)
economic agenda, the unrestrained immigration, the war to force “democratic capitalism” on tthe reast of the world...while continuing to support affirmative action, diversity & multiculturalism and tthe
rest of the liberal elitist/Wall Street social agenda.

“Palin will have NO effect on changing anything, McCain will continue the Bush2 (Wall Street)
economic agenda, the unrestrained immigration, the war to force “democratic capitalism” on tthe reast of the world...while continuing to support affirmative action, diversity & multiculturalism and tthe
rest of the liberal elitist/Wall Street social agenda.”

Posted by Joe Populist on Sep 08, 2008.

And what is the eventual outcome of all that.  No, not just some really evil stuff that is bad for the culture and the corrupting of the Christian moral and all that.

ITS THE LOOMING GENOCIDE OF THE WHITE RACE!

That’s what Buchanan writes all his books about; thats what he managages to adumbrate in just about every other column he writes.

Oh, the neocons might get back into power.  Oh, we might have a war with Iran.  Oh, the degenerate liberals might pollute the culture some more (drats, curses).

ALL A PRELUDE TO OUR EXTINCTION!

Call a spade a spade even if it sounds strident.  What have we got to lose?

Palin is to McCain as Henry Wallace was to FDR:

an appeal to his base that he’ll otherwise ignore.

Can’t you recognize a sop when you see one?

It’s sad but you CAN fool 63% of the American public 100% of the time. This discovery began to be implemented in the 30’s after banking was centralized thanks to the federal reserve act and to further consolidate even more power, they refused to lend money (now that they had succeeded in making us or u.s. into a debt system) gobbling everything up on the very cheap during the deflationary depression of that time. It’s when the 63% of Americans were taught to be blind. Their eyes as to what was happening had failed them or more likely they had failed their eyes-?-and so they were having their fingers forcibly pressed down upon the fiery braille of a disolving economy. (AS time runs backwards now?) Because nobody not even the rain has such small hands
as these current oppressors. Not even a perverted so much as an retarded elite? This is what has come in the abscence of a somewhat larger or more beneficent aristocracy of the past. Sure the past wasn’t perfect but it doesn’t mean the present can’t be worse.

here we go again with that classic typically American LIE about this thing called the “liberal media”.  The US media is only “liberal” until Israel’s little plots get uncovered then its as conservative as all f**k.  who owns the American media? (The four or so corps that control it?) Guess their loyalty.  hint:  Its not America.

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Wow.  I stumbled onto this page (I am one of those “libtards”, as the trolls on our pages call us) seeking out what Ron Paul (whom I admire as a man of integrity) had said at the NPC today.  The detail words of our pages differ, but the feelings are the same:  nobody hears us; somebody else seems to be running the show.  There must be common ground in these feelings:  let’s not bankrupt the country; let’s keep our noses out of other people’s affairs; let’s clean out the legislative closet.  And there must be deals to make:  I don’t care if you want a cannon in your front yard as long as you keep your laws out of my body and bedroom.  Maybe someday we can hammer something out of the things we agree on, and let the disagreements slide for a while.  I’ll be back for a visit again sometime.