Peter Brimelow

How I Became a Resentful Naderite

Posted by Peter Brimelow on October 29, 2008

I’ve argued in The American Conservative that, because most states are not in contention, the only rational use of the ballot is to send a message by casting single-issue vote for the Third Party presidential candidate who represents that issue. The most important issue in facing America is the imminent abolition of the historic American nation by out-of-control mass immigration, both legal and illegal. Mass immigration is a disease of the heart; the war, the economy etc., are diseases of the skin. So that means voting for the Constitution Party’s Chuck Baldwin, who is by far the best on immigration and much else besides.

However, the great state of Connecticut, where I live, has managed to keep off its ballot both the Constitution party, for which I (along with Editorandpublisher T. Theodoracopulos) voted in 2004, and the Libertarian Party, which I would turn to because Bob Barr was good on immigration when a Republican Congressman and because his platform is still better than those of the major parties. (Which shows how awful they are).

And since I wrote my TAC piece, I have discovered that Connecticut also makes it effectively impossible to write in a candidate so that it will be counted (as opposed to being just a spoiled ballot.)

In fact, the only Third Party presidential candidate on the Connecticut ballot is Ralph Nader. I think Nader is a crackpot and a thug and, with my beautiful and brilliant co-author Leslie Spencer, wrote two exposes of him when I was at Forbes magazine. (You can read them here and here). Nader didn’t like it at all and, when I was later introduced to him by a foolhardy fan—he had refused to be interviewed—greeted me with curious threatening growl, like an angry tomcat.

But he’s still better on immigration than Obama and McCain. (For example, in the Third Party presidential debate, he said he’d secure the border against illegals, listing “infectious diseases” as a justification—a sophisticated point, because most people don’t realize that screening for disease was very effective in the 1880-1925 Ellis Island era, with a significant proportion of would-be immigrants being sent back.

Plus, of course, he’s against this pointless war. (Now if Bush had invaded Mexico…)

Though I’m not the only member of the Takitribe to endorse Nader, I’m the one doing it resentfully.

Obama and McCain are both appalling on immigration. But McCain is worse, because he might be able to get through an amnesty, whereas without bipartisan support, I don’t think Obama will dare.

UPDATE: Since writing this article, Peter has discovered that Chuck Baldwin is, indeed, an official write-in candidate in Connecticut. And thus the question of whether conservatives should “resentfully” support Ralph Nader in the nutmeg state is now moot. Peter would like to reaffirm his support for Chuck Baldwin. [RS]


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You know that politics has really reached its Nader when conservatives have to go to this extreme.

Baldwin is a registered write-in candidate in Connecticut (nb. Bob Barr is not). Your local Registrar of Voters can give you the details.

Posted by Noel on Oct 30, 2008.

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Dear Mr. Brimelow !
What would be your choice for Florida ? Actually, this is a sincere question, no irony here. I care about immigration most in the choice of candidates.

When Home Rule New England goes all in for Blue...even in the small towns which have been GOP for decades, well.....there really is no hope for any kind of evolutionary change. No , its Last Call and the drunk has bought his last vodka from a bartender who has turned on the lights and is impatiently fingering his keys. The next move is to go out on the street and take a bracing plunge into the gutter. Then, the intrepid national drunk shall wake up with a pounding headache whilst trying to fight off vague memories of a sick nightmare where some kind of gladiator combat between Sarah the Warrior Princess and Hillary the Harpy Queen recalled all the charms of Goya’s painting of Saturn devouring his offspring.

Agreeing with many of Mr. Nader’s home rule instincts is not hard to do and the logic does build but he remains another in a long line of cantankerous populists who would have government hector, lecture and “protect” rather than recede into an appropriate small “F”, States Rights Federalism. He is, after all, a pioneer in that issues driven pox of identity politics that has culminated in Mr. Obama’s expensive infomercial of last night and Mr. McCain’s grinning stinkbuggery or Ms Palin’s Hee Haw Burlesque .

When the leading presidential candidate utilizes the same marketing tools as do the people who brought us the wonderful “Yogurt Colonics and their Role in Building a Sound Mind and Spirit”, you know the public is about to hand themselves their asses for but another insertion of that thing whose name shall not be uttered but used to be called a brain.

By all accounts, the lapsed Republic needs to hit bottom because this drunk either thinks he’s invincible or there is nothing wrong. When and if he sobers up, he might then be able to discern that the candidates and their many issues are beside the point ...it is the calm but vigorous debate and prudent reasoning employed that is paramount. We were granted a discursive system of government and all we have now is declamatory noise or sentimental petifoggery. That, and a government that is the epicenter of every flim-flamming opportunist and fiat intellectual preener in the country.

Last call friends.......Lew Rockwell is likely right, save the gas and keep your hands to yourself this time.

I applaud Mr. Brimelow for his courage to endorse Mr. Nader; if another third party vote is not available

2008 is the best year in a long time to make a statement with a third party vote. If nothing else a large number of third party votes...to any third party candidate ...will offer hope for those who would like to join or support a third party. It will also send a message to the two major parties.

To the Democrats and to the Republicans…
A pox on both your houses!

Dear Mr. Brimelow, I am just wondering where you classify the ongoing massacre of the unborn in terms of single-issue diseases of the heart and of the skin.  Where does the rescue of the unborn lie in terms of priorities among issues requiring immediate action?  What does it matter if immigration, the war, and the economy are prolems begging solutions, when there is no gut-wrenching reaction to the daily slaughter of innocents in the womb occurring in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”?  That indifference to this ongoing holocaust reigns throughout America and in the national government is evident and begs for some kind of retribution.  Maybe, the immigration problem, the terrible wars in Iraq and Afghanistand and the gradual meltdown of our eocnomy is part of a much needed cleansing of the American soul.

Immigration? Seriously?  I used to think conservatives were out of touch.  This pretty much proves it.

Why horse around?  Vote for Lyndon LaRouche and be done with it.

Richard Harmitage,

what should conservatives care more about?

John,

what’s wrong with Pinochet?

Posted by Frank on Oct 31, 2008.

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Quote: “John,

what’s wrong with Pinochet?”

This exactly what is wrong with conservatives of all stripes. 

Pinochet was a thug and murderer and the U.S. had no business forcing him on the people of Chile.

Lyndon LaRouche isn’t running and he’s like 90 years old. But his EIR press service is quite useful. He’s from a long dead “Old American Left” tradition of the radical republicans and I frankly wish that make come back but frankly they are even more long gone the “Old Right” here at Taki’s as a political force.

Today we are stuck with Neocon’s like David Horowitz ("former" commie) and Richard Pearle (satanist? commie? hard to say what exactly he is other than pure evil) and New Left like Bill Ayers (still a commie and also completely crazy) and Rev. Wright (a black national socialist and a loon).

So the choice is between “former” commie globalist or completely crazy white/western hating commie globalist.

Thank God I believe in “conspiracy theories” about election fraud and electronic voting and thus feel no need to participate in this pathetic sham.

Grow a pair and don’t vote. If no did it then the guilty wouldn’t have voters to hide behind.

Certainly most Americans, including myself, agree that illegal immigration is a crime and unmitigated disaster. However, legal immigration can actually be beneficial.

IMO; immigration is neither inherently good or bad--and can be either

It was German immigrant rocket scientists that got America to the moon. Albert Einstein, Enrico Fermi, Sergi Brin were all --gasp--immigrants!

Obviously we don’t need peons. But immigrant doctors, scientists, entrepreneurs, appear to me, to be an asset.

Finally, isn’t it somewhat ridiculous for Peter Brimelow, an immigrant himself, to make a career out of bashing--immigrants?

Were YOU such an evil person back when thoughts of USA immigration swirled through YOUR head?

Peter Brimelow = Anti immigrant--immigrant!

GO FIGURE

Whoa, Cptn

So… we want to war against “cognitive” elitism in favour of “white continuity” - Why?  I thought you like whites precisely because of cognitive elitism.  This is, then, finally is just a skin-colour fetish.

Furthermore - and I relish saying this very, very much after so many weeks and months of silent self-control- you sound like a frigging NAZI STORM TROOPER. Yes, despite your (monotonous, boring, retarded) attempts at sophistication which I do not care to hear again because that’s all you’ve ever squawked on about. I’ll say it again (especially as you seem to very much appreciate the abuse, you closet masochist, you)! NAZI! NAZI! NAZI! How in hell do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

Blood and Soil, Sieg Heil!

Though I share Brimelow’s view, I found this recent article of interest:

A perilous election

“Electing Obama would in many ways be the ultimate triumph of the left. The imploding economy threatens to produce not only an Obama victory, but also a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a very comfortable Democratic majority in the House.”

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While I view McCain as the greater threat, folks should be aware of this article too. Of course, I’ll be voting Baldwin.

Posted by Frank on Oct 31, 2008.

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Here is how it is (for the umpteenth time). America, which is White America, is facing a long term trend of white racial dispossession, and New World Order absorption. The Dems (and all liberals) actively seek the biological replacement of whites with non-white immigrants, as well as the dilution of white racial purity through intermarriage and miscegenation. The GOP in some quarters supports this racial “amalgamationist” agenda, in others is indifferent to it, and in still others is too brainwashed and/or cowardly to do anything to resist it.

Whites as a race, and the West as traditionally understood, have been slated for extermination, or, preferably for all concerned, passive extinction.

What will we do to reverse this state of affairs? Here’s a start: endless whining and/or arguing is unhelpful. In my life I have found that, w.r.t. visceral issues like homosexuality, gun bans, or the decline and fall of White America, either the other party gets it, or he’s a fool and does not (there can be highly intelligent fools, such as the white professors at, say, Harvard Law, or writers at The New York Review of Books, as well as Chronicles). Arguing with such persons is mostly useless. The task of defenders of the West is rather to get our racialist message (sans unnecessary neo-Nazism) out to those who are ‘latently’ with us; ie, whose mentalities are such as essentially to lean our way, but who in their lives have never been exposed to sophisticated arguments challenging multiculturalism, ‘brotherhood-of-manism’, miscegenation, etc.

My reasoning for disagreeing with the Occidental Observer is that the author’s concern for the zeitgeist is misplaced.

The proper concern is for whom the right will view as the good side and whom it will view as the bad side.

Fascism rose is response to communism. The 90s rose in response to Clinton. Russian nationalism rose in response to communism.

It is as Marx pointed out: there are two forces reacting against each other. I can’t say what this concept is called, but readers here should know to what I am referring.

Under a McCain presidency, he would potentially become the conservative leadership, the best possible alternative to evil Obama. While the left would further radicalise against “right wing extremism”. The resulting “zeitgeist” would be of the most extreme left imaginable.

While under Obama, right wing radicals would grow.

We’ve been under Bush for 8 years, how’s that conservative movement going? 4 more years with McCain is really going to improve things? Whites won’t mind black riots - they never have.

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Likudniks should be pulling for McCain, he’ll give them the insanity they think is good for Israel.

Americans have nothing to gain from McCain.

Posted by Frank on Oct 31, 2008.

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@ Ann Nonymous,

Like some other posters here, you attempt to arbitrate what is/is not correct to talk about in this forum.  Taki & co can do as they please as this is their site, but common posters like you and I don’t get to play thought police.

Apparently anyone who opposes the slow-motion genocide of the White peoples of the West is a Nazi.  CptChaos has explicitly decried National Socialism as a solution.  What we desire is not a violent movement to destroy “inferior races” as your caricature suggests.  Instead, we want to ensure our survival as a genetic community.  Your explicit denial of our right to do so is racist.

Both parties are controlled by the Jews.  Nader is fine as a protest vote but I don’t waste my time.  More time to pass Kevin MacDonald’s articles to slumbering whites.

Posted by HH on Nov 03, 2008.

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