Taki Theodoracopulos

Takimag Does Not Recognize “Kosovo”

Posted by Taki Theodoracopulos on February 18, 2008

I knew that this administration makes the gang that couldn’t shoot straight look like criminal geniuses, but I never realized just how dumb the Bush-Cheney gang truly is. When I saw Bush announce that Uncle Sam has recognized Kosovo, it reminded me of those moronic Englishmen who had seen the murderous Stalin in action against his own people who had returned home and told the world they had “been over into the future and it worked.”

How can the State Department be so idiotic? Doesn’t anyone in Heaven’s name realize that Kosovo and Albania are the equivalent danger to European peace that Afghanistan and Pakistan are in the Far East? In order to gain brownie points with the towelheads of Saudi Arabia, America is allowing a Muslim belt to be created in the heart of the Balkans and Christian Europe. Islamic radicals, including supporters of bin Laden, are crawling all over Albania and Kosovo, not to mention the terrorist drug dealers who are infesting European capitals raising money for Islamic causes. It is these same bin Laden KLA members who helped Kosovo fight for independence from Serbia and who will now turn their guns against Christian Serb enclaves.

FDR wished to end the British Empire and managed it even if he didn’t live to see it. The pathology of self-destruction continues. We go to war against the only secular leader of the Muslim world, Saddam, unleash death and destruction and waste our men and resources instead of concentrating them in Afghanistan, and now we encourage, along with the craven Brits and French, a hotbed of terrorism to become the world’s 193rd nation. Even if Bush was a Manchurian candidate controlled by neocons—which he was until he became a lame duck and they lost interest in him—he could not preside over a more self-destructive policy. Palestine had her lands taken away, and her people have suffered under Israel’s brutal occupation for decades, and yet we go and recognize a rogue state of 2 million hoodlums, drug dealers, criminals, and Islamic fanatics. Go figure. And this guy calls himself a Christian.


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Re: Unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo. Kosovo is controlled by KLA Islamic terrorists, gangsters and drug money (they now control the distribution of Heroin into Europe) . During WWII, every U.S. pilot baling out that fell into the hands of the Albanians was never heard from again. Those that came down into Serb territory were taken care off and returned to Allies. Kosovo is extremly important to the history of Serbia, and there has been a twenty year terrorist effort by muslims to expell them from part of their Serbian ancestral homeland. Serbs are Orthodox Christian and allied with Russia.

Both Russia and China vehemently oppose this move and our recognition. In addition, Russia’s “face” is on the line. They are considered by themselves, the Serbs and the rest of the world as the Serb’s big brothers and protectors. RUSSIA HAS TO DEFEND THE SERBS OR BECOME A LAUGHING STOCK. It is certain that for both domestic and international politics, Putin and his annointed successor have to do something - maybe cut off gas to Germany, etc. or even support the Serbs with military intervention. This is an extremly dangerous situation which the idiots in the West have created. In their Neo-con democratism and New World Order fantasies, Bush and the others have deliberately provoked the Russians. It was a calculated direct slap in the face. For this, the Russians cannot turn their cheek. Of such things wars start. Markets could be roiled soon.

What tipped me off here is that two of the most
decayed and denatured (former) European nations,
England and Germany, ran to kiss up to this new state
being created by Balkan Muslim drug lords. First,
the US acted as enablers to the Muslims by bombing
the crap out of the Serbs and then, we stood by while
the Albanian Muslims proceeded to drive out the
Christian population from Kosovo. The final step
is that we recognize our work and that of our Muslim
brethren in the Balkans by giving the Albanians a
second state, which our Republican administration
has just brought about.

This is merely the latest and probably most
dangerous manifestation of political correctness.
First they peppered public school text books with
multicultural nonsense.  Then, with the 9/11 attacks,
we are treated to the daily lunacy of TSA goons
patting down wheelchair-ridden grandmothers.  Can’t
concentrate on young Muslim men.  That would be
profiling!

So now we’re recognizing a Muslim state in Eastern
Europe.  The Bushies must have known this would
annoy the Russians.  When you combine this with
NATO expansion to its doorstep and the insanse
anti-ballistic defenses in Poland and the Czech
Republic, one must conclude that Washington is
itching for another Cold War.

Who benefits from all of this?  It certainly isn’t
the American taxpayer.

What will come of our patronage of this second Muslim enclave in the heartland of Christendom is hidden in the future.  Germany and Austria, so quick to recognize Slovenia, were content to joined the rest of Nato in letting what was left of Yugoslavia self destruct.

The Europeans failed to restore order in their own continent.  It was only a matter of time until the childish political class of America would take their orders from the images they saw on their televisions.

You don’t have to be Greek to hate the developements in Kosovo and you don’t have to be the Oracle of Delphi to know that this will lead to disaster. Putin and the Serbs have a strong moral and legal case against NATO and now the whole muslim world knows that KLA-style terrorism is effective against the West.

At the risk of being a minority of 1 may i humbly point out that denying Kosovo independence would have created a festering ulcer in europe that would have created a new gaza / west Bank in europe, bringing about the very outcome we fear most, “terrorists’ in europe.
The alternative was ethnic cleansing and export to Palestine, oops, sorry that already been given to the zionists.
If east Timor deserved nationhood why not Kosovo?
Why are we so paranoid scizophrenic about the world. The neocons created fear to manipulate us into attacking the Taliban (a pathan national movement) that had no fight with the U.S. and we all know about a fellow named Saddam who was an ex CIA asset.
So why are you scaring the crap out of Palecons over Kosovo Taqi?
The Kosovars will be loyal to the U.S. long after the the next 10 false flag attacks have come and gone on the U.S courtesy of Mossad.

Posted by Allen on Feb 19, 2008.

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<<If east Timor deserved nationhood why not Kosovo?>>

I’ll be blunt, and you will not agree:

Because East Timor is (at least nominally) a Catholic state, whereas Kosovo is (more than nominally) Mohammedan.

A Catholic country cut from Muhammedan Indonesia is a GOOD thing, whereas a Mohammedan country cut from Orthodox Christian Serbia is a BAD thing.

Why?

Because Catholics and (I add begrudgingly) Orthodox (despite being schismatics) Christians are GOOD and Mohammedans are EVIL.

Mr Capp:
Pls accept my sympathy for your disease, hoping you get better soon.
In the meanwhile, keep taking the medicines, the good folks in white coats will be coming to adjust your medications soon.

Posted by Allen on Feb 19, 2008.

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@ (John) Allen (Muhammad)

How’s the prison?  You know, being a Moslem apologist on this site is a real waste of time. Btw, festering ulcers are normally cut out from the healthy tissue, but those who can’t won’t let those who can and would, for now. But we have patience.

When Kosovo inevitably becomes a member of the EU the real fun will start. As I understand it rather a lot of Arabian “freedom fighters” settled in the region before, during and after the war. I suppose they will be entitled to invite their rather extended families to come and join?

Taki wrote, “FDR wished to end the British Empire and managed it even if he didn’t live to see it.”

That’s mostly true, and I curse FDR for that.  But then I wonder how your reproach
to FDR for FDR’s being instrumental in destroying the British Empire, squares up with your admiration of the “Old Right” and the “America First” movement who said it was none of America’s business whether the British Empire AND ALL OF WESTERN EUROPE fell to the Nazis?

Taki, if you’re really a man of the “Old Right” (but personally I think you’re not, not really; you’re just a bit split-minded about it) - if you’re really a man of the “Old Right”, then you shouldn’t give a damn one way or the other about some “damned fool thing in the Balkans.”

But then - at least I SAY - yes you should care.  Because willy nilly, what happens in the Balkans affects America’s national interests - one way or the other and REGARDLESS of whether America recognises Kosovo.  (And I think it’s bloody stupid, and even immoral, for America to recognise Kosovo, but that’s a separate issue from what I’m taking you to task for.)

The reality is that there is no such thing as “non-interventionism” in the abstract.  The question is always what KIND of intervention, what KIND of foreign relations America has with other states, and how, and for what purposes.
If America refused to recognise Kosovo, then that, too, would be a KIND of “intervention”, because willy nilly, what one sovereign state does affects all others and vice versa.

And that’s why the myth of the “Old Right” is just that, a myth.  “Non-intervention” is a fantasy.

And in sum, again I ask the question, how does your reproach to FDR for destroying the British Empire (yes it’s true that FDR wanted to do this - CONTRARY to what so many conspiracy theorists among self-described “heirs of the Old Right” say today) - how does that square up with the “Old Right” conspiracy theories which say FDR was a willing dupe of the British Empire (and “the Jews")?

I’m just asking.

G.W. supposedly fighting ‘islamic extremism’ is now rewarding it, and in european soil. Does it make any sense?
This may have started as the liberals’ “humanitarian” war, but neocons were also staunchly supportive from the beginning.
These people actually don’t differ that much.
Whether they are doing it on humanitarian or democracy-spreading pretext, war and ‘rule the world’ interventionism is their common bottom line.

Taki shouldn’t be so nasty to the Brits and French. After all, it was principally those two nations (or at least their navies) that were responsible for freeing Greece from Turkish domination.

But with Greeks, that ‘s the sort of thanks you get.

Think I’ll write in Putin’s name for President of the USA this falll; at least he’s willing to defend the Christian Serbs against the KLA terrorists who now run Kosovo.

Hah...the British Empire was destroyed....you indentured fools...Pelagia to Ockham to Hobbes to Bentham...to Whitehead...the world is more Anglo-supersized than ever...Nominalism-Reductionism-Unitarianism RULES....while most on the website DRULLS… if you wish to say...that FDR helped out… took over… and enlarged the “family” business from an exhausted, ailing,sceloric Gramps....then you should say so...whoever said Anglo-Saxon-Normans were either “Western” or “Christian” anyway??...Christianity never took north of the Alps....and those “Germanic” tribes were nothing more than ranging opportunists from the Steppes of Asia....the Dark Ages started with Alexander...and your precious, hyped Enlightenment...was only the beginning of the Age Of Endarkment...there is nothing an Anglo won’t steal...and there is no murder he won’t commit in the process...all his lies are created...in order to “prepare” the “usurpation” or to “cover it up”....rationality is nothing more than Gullibility on a “un grande masse”....don’t forget, the Musselman, wanted nothing more than to be a “better Byzantine”...just like the Mullahs, Luther & Calvin wanted to be “better Latins”....

Posted by jim on Feb 19, 2008.

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Once again, Dr Cathey, you and I agree.

This must come to a STOP!

Just kidding.

Who, in their right mind, would prefer the Albanians over the Serbs?

The answer is in the question: no one IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, would support terroristic Albanian Muslims over Serbs.  What’s next, the alienation of Christian Russia?

Oh, wait, never mind…

paul gottfried/

where did you hear that germany has recognized
the kosovo? can they really be THAT dumb?

Posted by man on Feb 19, 2008.

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Hello, John Ball, I have missed you a bit.

Yes, it is very inconsistent to complain about
FDR destroying the British Empire, after complaining
about his going to war to save it.

At least FDR wanted to destroy it to inherit its
possessions, which makes sense, sort of, while
letting Hitler conquer it, does not.

I wish that Republicans did not oppose what they say
are bad Democratic policies with lunatic policies of
their own.

When Kosovo declared independence

Sorry for the last post!

When Kosovo declared independence, CBS News came on with the story by stating first “This is democracy in action” and then they paused for drama and stated that Kosovo declared independence. I wondered if the Serbs in Kosovio were taken into account in that democratic action?

A crying shame Milosevic couldn’t do the job right, cleaning out that rat’s nest.

Using the same logic the US should give up the area conquered ( stolen ) from Mexico. Or at the very least those counties along the border where the Mexicans out number the gringos.

‘Twas no moronic Englishman but an American journalist, L
Lincoln Steffens who wrote “I have seen the future and
it works” following a visit to the Soviet Union in
1919.

Apart from that assertion I agree with all that you
said. Sadly,all the tinkers and placemen in Brussels
will do us a lot more harm yet with their witless
interfering.

To Mark Alois Robinson. The Brits are the very worst ally a country could ever wish for. The Greeks learned that in two world wars, in Cyprus, and elsewhere. England’s support in 1821 was accidental to her true nature. In that struggle, Russia provided the more essential support anyway.

>>>>>>>>>>>Because Catholics and (I add begrudgingly) Orthodox (despite being schismatics) Christians are GOOD and Mohammedans are EVIL.

Schismatics, my foot! In the Christian world, the Orthodox are the only ones who make any sense any more, and that’s because they’re at the very root of Christianity. The sad truth is that this Kosovo thing is the endgame of plans hatched in the JPII’s Vatican itself, to destroy Yugoslavia and unleash the latest Drang nach Osten against the “schismatics.” Just go back and read the history of the late 1980s and 1990s, and see for yourself that this obsession with “schimastics” clouded a more realistic evaluation of the Muslim threat. It’s what is behind this irrational Russophobia, too. Alas, ever since the establishment by the Germanic Kings of what is today the Papacy with its theretofore unheard of claims about itself, it has been doing its utmost to destroy the ancient Orthodox Christians because their mere existence and heritage made the newfangled Papal version of history look rather ridiculous. This latest Pope is something of a breath of fresh air, but his predecessor JPII was the architect of Kosovo.

Thank you, Taki! By setting up and recognizing “Kosova,” the American empire has finally buried the principle of law governing international affairs (it may not have always worked in practice, but at least it was commonly accepted that it *should*). Now it’s all about what one can get away with. That may seem not so bad to neocons and Eurocrats right now, since they believe they have the whip hand, but it’s just the matter of time before they themselves feel the lash.

Mr “Heretic”,

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize Jesus came to set up fifteen different Churches.  I guess that’s what His Prayer for Unity in the Gospel of St John was all about - “unity”, as in fifteen different Churches, headed by fifteen different people.

This is more state department tweaking of Moscow, and in line with what has been predicted. I believe that Russia has yet to be consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, as was requested by her at Fatima. Thus we have Russian bombers buzzing US carriers. The cold war is alive and well. Unless Benedict, with all he bishops, does what Mary requested, things will get very bad, lead by Russia as predicted.

Posted by Don on Feb 19, 2008.

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If east Timor deserved nationhood why not Kosovo?

Because the Timorese are a conquered people, not illegal immigrants. Indeed, if anyone could be compared to the Palestinians it would be the Timorese, who had suffered under Indonesian occupation since 1975.

Posted by dcs on Feb 19, 2008.

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>>>>>>>>>I’m sorry, I didn’t realize Jesus came to set up fifteen different Churches.  I guess that’s what His Prayer for Unity in the Gospel of St John was all about - “unity”, as in fifteen different Churches, headed by fifteen different people.

Has it ever occurred to you that unity can be a unity of mind? Or can it only be a satrapic top-down pyramid? Where’re the twelve Apostles in that scheme? Where are the four Evangelists? Christ was praying for the unity of his Apostles, that they not lord it over one another. Unity does not mean a bunch of bots in lock step subordination to an ayatollah. But a unity of brothers in Christ. The Papal claims are a sham and have done nothing but bring harm to Christianity. And, sadly, the Kosovo thing was hatched in the Vatican back then. Why? Because till recently the Popes had been so blinded by these delusions that they preferred Muslims to pesky Orthodox who embarrass the imaginative view of history they’ve concocted.

Thank you Taki for your common sence. Even Tito was
an ennemy to the Serbs.
We are fed up of being satanised for the evil purpose od hegemonistic West

What’s the matter with Taki? He sounds like a racist and an Islamophobe, not to mention an antisemite as well as a white supremacist. And he thinks he’s funny!

Takimag is great for intelligent readers.
Unfortunatly, you have a few ignorant readers.
The move by Britain, Germany and the USA is all part
of the Greater Middle East project perpetuated by the
NeoCON artists. No mass protest against this human rights
violation in any of those countries. No mention how…
the Unilateral Declaration of Independence of Kosovo says that “this secessionist act falls outside the framework of international legality, and is therefore legally null and void, in violation of the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act and of Resolution 1244 of the Security Council (1999), which affirms the adherence of UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia”.
This move is going to be used as a precedence for future
World Domination by the NeoCONS!!! Wait for the next shoe to drop

>>>Taki shouldn’t be so nasty to the Brits and French. After all, it was principally those two nations (or at least their navies) that were responsible for freeing Greece from Turkish domination.

Αctually it was principally Russia -which happened to have a Greek foreign minister (Kapodistrias)- that dragged them into this, them fiercely opposing it in the beginning.

But with Brits that’s the sort of historic thinking you get, i.e. Colonialism.

Allen wrote: “The Kosovars will be loyal to the U.S...”

The “Kosovars” are Albanian Muslims. They are loyal to Allah and Dar al Islam, Greater Albania and no other entity.

Jim K. wrote: “G.W. supposedly fighting ‘islamic extremism’ is now rewarding it, and in european soil. Does it make any sense?”

Yes, it makes sense. George W Bush is working to establish the New World Order which is, in fact, Neo-Bolshevism. The goal is to destroy European Christian civilization because it is the main obstacle to world government.

Islam, and Asia for that matter, are seen as a lesser threat to the New World Order. Europeans and Christianity are the true threat. The white peoples and their cultures must be neutralized first. That is the key step in establishing world government. And that is what is happening all over the globe. From Copenhagen to London to Minneapolis to Toronto to Perth. Islam is simply a useful weapon in the task of breaking down European Christian civilization.

God bless Taki. He recognizes the truth:

Kosovo = base of operations.

Mr Thatchery,

While I agree with you in spirit (might I mention that while I am typing this, I am munching on chicharrones, aka “pork rinds/pork skins"), I must disagree with the average Kosovar’s identification with “Dar al Islam”.  He may, internally, identify himself as “Mohammedan”, but central and up front is his identity as an “Albanian”, and, as all know, Albania is a truly secularist nation: THAT is it’s appeal to the New World Order types.  The Mohammedan Kosovar is a “useful fool” for the secularists.

Albania is the ersatz-Israel of the Balkans: supposedly religious (Mohammedan in Albania’s case), but in reality, an uber-secular state.

I oppose Kosovo because the people that populate THINK they are Muhammadan, I oppose Albania because it is ant-Catholic.

Another excellent article/blog posting from Taki.  Expect more of the same from either McCain or Obama/Hillary.  John McCain likes to present himself as a hawk in the “war” against so-called “radical Islamic extremism.” However, he isn’t just one of those Republicans who suddenly went insane after 9/11.  In fact, when Bill Clinton was president, McCain strongly supported all of Clinton’s wars; in both Bosnia and in Kosovo.  During a time when Republicans actually sounded like members of the Old Right in their opposition to overseas interventionism and “nation-building,” supported an America First foreign policy and weren’t maniacally obsessed with bombing Middle Easterners, McCain was such a hawk—with regard to the former Yugoslavia—that he actually wanted the Clinton administration to go beyond aerial bombings and put “more boots on the ground” in favour of the Muslims against the Christian Serbs.  Therefore, far from being a warrior against “radical Islamic extremism,” McCain has a long track record of supporting Islam against Christianity.  Perhaps this might explain why he has said nothing about the plight of Iraq’s Christian community and the brutal manner in which they have been driven out from their ancient homeland; thanks to the U.S. invasion and occupation, and the subsequent American arming of various sectarian Islamic groups.

Far from being a steely-eyed realist—as he likes to portray himself to his supporters and fawning admirers in the “mainstream media”—McCain is actually among the worst of the neo-Wilsonian neoconservatives.  He is a gleaming-eyed messianic democratist who supports war and massive American intervention, anywhere and everywhere.  All those who are truly concerned about the crashing dollar, runaway federal government spending, debt and inflation and the possible return of the draft, should be downright frightened that such a man (with absolutely no understanding about the economic and moral limitations of Empire) actually has any chance of becoming the next American president.

I am Canadian, and thus, obviously cannot vote for the man; however, during the current race for the GOP presidential nomination, I have—nevertheless—strongly supported the candidacy of Congressman Ron Paul.  I urge all of the conservative and traditionalist readers of TakiMag to vote for Dr. Paul in the general election if he changes his mind and decides to run as an Independent or the Libertarian Party and/or Constitutional Party nominee.  He is the only one—in both major parties—who has opposed ALL of the unconstitutional, undeclared and unnecessary wars of the post-Second World War era.  He doesn’t just play politics, but is someone who actually understands the inconsistencies, as well as, the lack of reason and logic in current American foreign policy (the neoconservative support for an independent Kosovo is just another example).  He also understands how American meddling in the internal affairs of other countries leads to increasing resentment and eventual blowback in the form of anti-American terrorism.  Finally, unlike Pat Buchanan, he is a genuine non-interventionist (During the early 1990’s, Buchanan advocated American intervention on behalf of Catholic Croatia against Serb-dominated Yugoslavia).  Please read his book—“A Foreign Policy of Freedom”—to read essays and speeches by Ron Paul in which he strongly opposed the Clinton Administration and its viscreal hostility towards the Serbs.

An independent Kosovo has as much legitimacy as an independent Aztlan in the American Southwest.  The only reason why Kosovo has an Albanian-Muslim majority is because of massive illegal immigration and settlement by the Albanian Muslims, who were encouraged by the Ottomans to come in, breed in large numbers and ethnically displace, and take over the lands, of the indigenous Christian Serbs.  This is similar to how massive illegal immigration from Mexico is causing the rise of large Hispanic-dominated areas in the American southwest and west.  If, or better yet, when the Mexicans in America’s southwest demand their own country and receive recognition from the “international community,” America will have no right to complain.

One correction to Taki’s post: Saddam was not the only secular leader in the Muslim world.  Hafez al-Assad of Syria was also a staunch secularist, as is his son, the current Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.  Showing the idiocy of the neoconservatives, Assad is a target of current American foreign policy and the Frums, Kristols and Podhoretzes seek “regime-change” in Syria.  I am sure that will go as well as “regime-change” in Iraq.

The Serbs have always been the “Guardians of the Gate of Christianitity”, the Jews hate them for that, and taking back the Balkins has been the goal of the Ilsamic fundamentalist nutsis for a long time. They were continually fighting the the Ottomen Empire as Venice and Europe was being invaded.

What’s also true is the GERMANS and the Franks have hated the Slavs since the Romean times, so this antipathy between these two caucausian races is long running and historic.

But then the antipathy between Christian Europe and Islamic East has beeen going on just as long, so go figure.

History merits attention:

The Brits had been able to stay in India because they pitted Hindus against Muslims and engineered Hindu Rajas to occupy thrones in Muslim majority areas, like Kashmir.
The prdictable consequence was a deep suspicion emerged between the communities.
In the 30’s many muslim scholars and leaders pleaded with the Hindu leaders to make some magnanimous gesture to the muslims if the wanted India to stay united after the Brits were booted out.
The Hindu leadership of Nehru was a victim of a midset described as “Hubris” and repeatedly turned down the Muslim requests for some simple guarantees that they would not be discriminated against.
When it became clear that this was not going to happen, Jinnah (a secular, barrister educated in London) decided to secede, the result was Pakistan.
Simlarly yogoslavia was little more than a geographical expression held together by Tito.
After his demise the majority serbs had a choice of assuring the safety of all or going the path of Hubris. They chose with the help of russian slavs and greeks and others to engage in genocide in Bosnia, and committed significant atrocities.  The west watched for years until it the involvement of volunteers form Iran and a number of other countries started to turn the tide and it looked like the serbs would lose.
Only then did they intervene to save what was left of serbia.
The creation of Kosovo was a forgone conclusion after Bosnia as the nuslims were not going to trust in Milosovic’s good heart again.
Now again the only reason the west is supporting Kosovo is to prevent the area turning into another Palestine, with the knowledge that the serbs would eventually be the losers.
The russians are playing a cynical game of divide and rule in europe. The chinese opposition is procedural (UN) vs unilateralism by the Bushies.
So the reality is that the Bushies and the neocons are trying to save serbian bacon which the dumb serbs are too myopic to recognize.

The Serbs declared their independence on June 28, 1914 with an assassination.

The Kosovars declare their independence on February 17, 2008 with a vote.

One of the punishments inflicted by The Blessed Trinity upon countries and nations who abandon Our Lord, is loss of sovereignty. Serbia is responsible for setting into motion the New World Order with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The shot that started all this mess.  The Greater Serbia nation has yet to expiate her sins in this matter. In 1914 Serbia desired to overreach her boundaries and become Greater Serbia.  She will now be punished by the Blessed Trinity by becoming Lesser Serbia. “ I also will laugh in your destruction, and will mock when that shall come to you which you feared”

How is it that the Neo-cons have so much power as to create an independent Kosovo? What does Taki’s top drawer or a Chronicle reader call himself? I would like to know. And how come not one of you Taki or Chronicle readers/writers were able to have any influence in this Kosovo matter. I find it very interesting that in what you guys are against, you can do nothing about it. It’s like you all are out of the loop or your opinions do not matter and your arguments are not convincing.  Because Kosovo is now independent. How is it that none of you were able to stop this? I know what a neo-con is but what do you guys call yourselves? I need to know to say some time in the near future see how these.…. so and so…. supported the Serbs to their own detriment..

Here is an eye opening link to how the neocons got in bed with Al-qaida in Bosnia.

What goes around comes around.

It also shows the essential inability of the serbs or the neocons or anyone else to understand that wars and genocide produce unintended consequences.

What goes around comes around.

http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_07_16/feature.html

Posted by Allen on Feb 20, 2008.

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@ Allen (the Beltway sniper?)

Yes, wars and genocide produce unintended consequences, as I’m sure every Moslem ruler since the beginning could tell you. Ask them if they realize the unintended consequences of their wars and genocide against Dar-al-Harb.

Dzugash.....
They have accomadations for you at the Hague, right next to Milosowic.
Raceds condemned ...do not have a second chance on this earth..
The are coming to get you dzu…
Mladic is missing u too

Posted by allen on Feb 20, 2008.

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“your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries....”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
Help Dzu...he’s still digging himself into his hole deeper…

Hey Dzu..put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye

Posted by allen on Feb 20, 2008.

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@ Michael Warning

Dude, your ignorance (or willful misinterpretation) of history is appalling, as I’ve told you before.

Serbs declared their modern-day independence in 1804, when they started an uprising against Ottoman rule; that’s only about 110 years before your stated date. Those Serbs also have never been dependent on the Habsburgs.

The assassination of the Archduke was a response to Austro-Hungarian annexation of Bosnia in 1908. After ruling Bosnia as a protectorate since 1878 (after Ottoman withdrawal), A-H was supposed to organize a referendum for the people to decide on the future of the country, but A-H reneged on that deal. The assassins were Bosnian Serbs, who thought that A-H annexation was keeping them from getting united with the mother country across the river.

Your babbling about the Blessed Trinity punishing those who were/are somehow against the A-H empire demonstrates that you are a cultists: your cult is the A-H empire, which you view (check your prior posts) as a continuation of the Holy Roman Empire. If that rocks your boat fine, but the Lord never promised an earthly kingdom to A-H or HRE, last time I checked… I think His kingdom was not of this world. If you disagree, please quote the chapter and verse to show otherwise.

It’s about time the Kosovar Albanians formally got out from under Serb rule.

I can understand a Greek’s animosity towards the Turks and the religion they brought to the Balkans, but the Albanians got the short end of the stick when the modern Balkan states - including Greece - were formed with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire during the the 19th and early 20th centuries.

Why should the Albanians, who form a compact mass extending way beyond Albania, be forced to live in neighboring countries such as Greece, Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro?

The present borders are relics of empires past. Some of them have no legitimacy other than that imposed by the force of arms.

Hey Dzu..still determined to prove your viscious venomous ignorance..so be it..
The words “dar-ul-Harb” are not found in the Quran or Hadith.
Since your ancesters survived 700 years of life under Ottoman Dar-ul-Islam the Ottomans were obviously not prone to too much Genocide or you would not have been born.
In fact the only reason you know you are a serb is because the Muslims Turks taught you your name and how to read.
Muslim code in war protects civilians, crops, and all living things.
It exceeds the Geneva conventions standards manifold.
Don’t fall into the thinking traps set for you by the zionists, the neocons and dead British imperialists, or you may end up playing Albinoni in Gallipoli.

@ Allen
By the tone of your postings (here and previously) I can conclude that you are about 12, maybe 13. Your parents should not let you come to web sites that discuss topics for grown-ups; it is obviously damaging to your developing psyche. Next time you’re on youtube limit yourself to searching for Lindsay Lohan.

@ Ali Khan
Moslem fiction won’t get much traction on this site… of course you’re welcome to keep trying.

Mr. Vissarion Dzugashvili you wrote:
“Your babbling about the Blessed Trinity punishing those who were/are somehow against the A-H empire demonstrates that you are a cultists: your cult is the A-H empire, which you view (check your prior posts) as a continuation of the Holy Roman Empire. If that rocks your boat fine, but the Lord never promised an earthly kingdom to A-H or HRE, last time I checked… I think His kingdom was not of this world. If you disagree, please quote the chapter and verse to show otherwise.”

Did U.S.S.R. lose it’s seat and authority on the United Nations Security Council when it became the Russian Federation? No. neither did the authority of Holy Roman Emperor Francis II lose his authority when signing the treaty of Pressburg in 1805 making him the first emperor of Austria as Francis I The authority and office of the Roman Emperor still remained with the Austrian-Hungarian Emperor The Church has always acknowledged this.

Thus when the Serb nation declared it’s independence with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. It also set into motion the destruction of the Old Westphalian order and gave rise to the new world order.

“Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God, the things that are God’s”

Serbia belongs to Caesar.

@ Michael Warning

You should call an ambulance… you just shot yourself in the foot.

Why not a state for the Laz people?

The have a long history and are Christians living in an enclave of Turkey.

It will be easier after the Kosovans join the EU, but even before that they may be able to travel to Britain and be like the good doctor is this news article.

<http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1002_scroungers.shtml>

straight, to the point and blunt. thank you taki, its refreshing finally to see this point of view. Every time you turn on t.v. its as if the support of kosovo is the best invention since the telephone. a stupid and murderous mistake was made by bombing serbia, who was fighting the real terrorists in 1999. And by making this mistake they realized this, now they have to carry through for fear of telling the world or showing that the u.s. made a mistake. did anyone NOT take history or open up a book on history and the demographics of kosovo to understand HOW it came to where it is today? why punish serbia so brutally was not bombing every factory to deny work to the serbs not enough? there is talk about why not a muslim state in christian areas? this talk is obviously one point of view and ignorance to the real problem of a greater albania, REGARDLESS of the promises made by tirana saying that its not part of the greater albania. now we’ll sit and watch the real situation boil over, next is greece and then fyrom. mark this day in your calander so you wont be confused and say ‘how did this happen’

Why are all you neo-cons saying that this is a “Muslim/Christian” fight.  That’s wrong. It shows you are bloviating without knowing anything about Albania.

I’m surprised, no shocked, that Taki doesn’t know that about 20% of the folk in Albania belong to the same Orthodox faith Taki was baptized in. See http://incommunion.org/articles/resources/albania-report. About another 10% are Roman Catholics.

Until recently Albania was under a Marxist tyrant, who destroyed all places of worship.  All religions were outlawed.

Now worship is being revived.  Including Orthodox Christian worship.  Also including Islam.  But to say that all Albanians are Islamo-Fascists, as you neo-cons do, is factually wrong.

Mr. Vissarion Dzugashvili you wrote: “You should call an ambulance… you just shot yourself in the foot”

How so? I would like to know.

Thanks

@ Michael Warning

You shot yourself in the foot because:

a) You didn’t disprove any of my points about Serbia never being dependent on A-H, and therefore impossible to declare independence from A-H;

b) You didn’t disprove any of my points about the events that led to the assassination of the Archduke;

c) You didn’t show any proof that our Lord gave special status to A-H, or any earthly kingdom for that matter; therefore you didn’t prove that actions against A-H or its rulers can be interpreted as actions against the Holy Trinity. You are equating Heavenly Kingdom with earthly kingdoms. I doubt they taught you that in Catholic school.

I thank those readers, on the various articles dealing with this subject, who have attempted to educate me about religiosity in Serbia, Russia, Kosovo, and Albania.  However anecdotal their evidence may have been, still I’ve learned some things. 

The upshot from reading Paleocon websites the this week is two sad but evident conclusions.  First, as far as I can tell, the conflict in the Balkans has little to do with religion and lot to do with Ultra-Nationalism of the bomb-throwing machine-gunning and kneecapping kind.  I’m willing to be persuaded otherwise, with just the facts, Ma’am.  Second:  In matters of foreign policy and military security there is no difference between Paleoconservatives and Neoconservatives.  One has become the mirror image and the identical image of the other.  As to the second:

1. The mirror image: Both Paleos and Liberals have their favorite little county that in reality isn’t much of an American interest.  For the Neos, EVERYTHING is to be subordinated to Israel’s needs and wishes; for the Paleos, EVERYTHING is to be subordinated to Serbia’s, and now even Russia’s.  Both expect American foreign policy to be dictated by the Foreign Ministries in Tel Aviv and Belgrade respectively, as it was dictated by the British Foreign Office during Woodrow the Worst.  Whatever the American interest might happen to be is to be subordinated or just ignored.

The identical images:

2. Both Paleos and Neos want new 100 Years’ War with Islam, putatively because of an Islamic invasion, forgetting that Islam is feeding off a decadent West, forgetting that Europeans need sex-ed lessons on how to have children, forgetting that the Balkans have already caused one worthless and bloody world war and could very well cause another, forgetting that the West – Germany in Yugoslavia 1941, France in Algeria, Russia in Afghanistan, Gringos in Vietnam and Iraq, Israel in Lebanon – hasn’t a clue how to fight 4th Generation War, forgetting that Osama was over here on 11 Sept because we were over there, forgetting that wars are the greatest enemy to civil liberties and the Constitution and the truth, forgetting that war is the feast day for demagogues – in short, forgetting everything that’s important.  Paleo’s and Neo’s both prove themselves fathomlessly stupid.  The Paleos might as well embrace McCain; his foreign policy is theirs, just carried out in another theater.

3. In that vein, both Neos and Paleos have no idea of the logic of a “war for existence” of a people.  They haven’t even bothered to read Martin van Creveld’s The Transformation of War, pages 142-149, “Nonpolitical War: Existence”.  His masterly analysis of the French in Algeria 1954-1962 shows the underdog has the advantage, and so now the Kosovars.  It was a bloody war not worth it for France, and would be not worth it for Serbia. (I suspect many sensible Serbs know this)

4. In the same vein, Neos and Paleos haven’t a clue how to fight a 4th Generation War, or IF one should fight it, Van Creveld’s book and William Lind’s work being just the proverbial villages in China. There’s some irony here, and historical ignorance on the part of Serbia’s (or Albania’s) supporters.  The first 4th Gen. War was found precisely in Yugoslavia, 1941-1945.  The Nazi’s invaded and in two weeks rolled through the country, as the Gringos in Iraq.  They couldn’t conquer the country. They killed a million Yugoslavs.  They couldn’t conquer the country.  (Listen and watch Van Creveld at http://www.mises.org/media.aspx, click “Creveld”.) Now Kosovo will be the same.

5. Furthermore Paleos and Neos don’t know why men fight wars AT ALL.  (And it ain’t for God, King, Country, or Mom.  Again, Van Creveld has the answer in chapter 6).  And not to know the answer is a recipe for defeat in any war.

6. And, ultimately, both Neos and Paleos don’t have a child in the fight and expect someone else’s child to suffer and die for them.  Now I shall get very, very personal.  I must, for what can be more personal than to lose a child in a war?  It burns me up when Neos scream for war in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, or Pakistan, and then send their own children to Ivy League schools, instead of enrolling them in the US Marines or the IDF.  Now let’s turn the tables on the Paleos. True the Paleos might say they aren’t arguing for war, but they and everyone else know that if the Serbs want Kosovo back, they’ll have to fight a war, and fight a 4th Generation War, and fight a war against a people struggling for their very existence against another people with a proven track record for genocide.  (To be fair, there’s lots of blame to be shared for genocide in the Balkans.) So let us ask the Paleos warmongers – writers and writebackers, on this website and another – and Mr. Big Mac in particular, these questions, and then demand answers first before they proceed to counsel the rest of us any further on the Balkans:

i. Do you have a son?  If not, maybe you should let those who do, or those who otherwise will have to do the fighting, make the decision (as was done in the Roman comita centuriata).

ii.  If yes, is he enrolled in the Serbian Defense Force?  If so, give name, rank, serial number, and the unit in which he serves, so that we can verify your claim.

iii. If no, then WHY THE HELL IS HE NOT SO ENROLLED?!  Just whose child DO you expect to suffer and die for YOUR war?!  A “Scots Irish” American’s child? a Black American’s? A Hispanic’s? a Catholic’s? (the four largest groups in the American military)

And for “son” in the above, replace “father”, “brother”, “husband”.  Here one can no longer quench indignation. YOU SEND YOUR CHILD TO DIE FOR SERBIA (or Albania or Israel or Dafur or Somalia)!!!  Then and only then will I spare a thought about sending mine. Thus the putative Paleo interest in pro-life, children, and families proves to be at best contradictory and at worst a sham.  Let us take Nietzsche’s council in dealing with David Strauß, and turn aside for a moment to vomit. ....

Other “elective affinities” exist between Neos and Paleos.  Let us list them:

7.  Both oppose the libertarian critique of The State, the support for Ron Paul not withstanding.

8.  Both oppose and ridicule the ecology movement (Mr. John Ball excepted).

9.  Both are Lincoln idolaters and American Nationalists of the “we are one country” mold.

10. Both oppose and ridicule, as one would expect from Sam-Franciscans, Dixie’s and Vermont’s own efforts toward independence.

11. And both tend to the Germanophobic.

Readers have come here to flee from the Neocons.  They find Neocon views – perhaps Antisemitic, Judeophobic, racialist, neo-tribalist, fascist, Fascist, and Clerical Fascist versions of those views (on the part of some) – but Neocon views all the same.  And Sid Cundiff is supposed to be the Neocon agent provocateur!  And all the pro-Habsburg talk proves hollow by supporting Serbia, as anti-Habsburg a bunch as there ever was. 

Shame!

I beg my Paleo friends to haul up and reconsider their positions.

To anticipate the rejoinder:  I am just as vehemently, as obstreperously, as stentorianly opposed both to Albanian’s own irredentist Ultra-Nationalist claims and to Islamic jihad.  Nor am I anti-Israel, anymore than I would be a “racist” for opposing Obama.  But Albanians and Moslems aren’t, by and large, writing here.

Now that President Sarkozy has given his approval of the
new state perhaps the Corsicans can look forward with
optimism to their independence.

@ Sid Cundiff

Sid, you are a Don Quixote fighting a windmill of your own making.  I’ll speak for the Paleos here.

“1. Both Paleos and Liberals have their favorite little county… Both expect American foreign policy to be dictated by the Foreign Ministries in Tel Aviv and Belgrade respectively...”
- Favorite little country in private, perhaps. But to have Belgrade dictate foreign policy, you’ve made this up.

“2. Both Paleos and Neos want new 100 Years’ War with Islam...”
- All the Paleos want is a wall, Moslems on one side, us on the other.

“3. ...both Neos and Paleos have no idea of the logic of a “war for existence” of a people...”
- This is almost nonsensical; paleos would fight a war if meets the “Just War” criteria, i.e. if somebody attacked our country.

“4. Neos and Paleos haven’t a clue how to fight a 4th Generation War...”
- Paleos don’t want to fight any war, except as per #3 above. William Lind is a paleo, btw.

“5. ...Paleos and Neos don’t know why men fight wars AT ALL...”
- Paleos don’t need to know why other men fight wars; see point #3 above.

“6. ...both Neos and Paleos don’t have a child in the fight and expect someone else’s child to suffer and die for them.”
“i. Do you have a son?” “ii.  If yes, is he enrolled in the Serbian Defense Force?” “iii. If no, then WHY THE HELL IS HE NOT SO ENROLLED?!”
- You’ve made it up all yourself, Sid. It’s all in your head.

“9. Both are Lincoln idolaters...”
- This is a bald-faced lie; you’ve been to Chronicles often enough to know that this is a lie.

- I am really not sure what you’re trying to prove here, except that you’re capable of painting yourself into a corner.

Mr. Cundiff,

you’re too ideological; you’ve oversimplified reality into something cold and inhuman, and in that sense are very much like a neocon.

If Muslims get too far into Europe, they will pose a serious threat. Their advances must be halted and entirely sent back behind the old lines simply because such is in the interests of all of Europe, as well as the former British colonies. Lincoln wanted centralisation; no one here wishes for that. However, we do wish for what we love to survive and continue on.

Also, the Albanians ethnically cleansed out the Serbs under NATO protection and before. Christians can’t simply declare war wrong and allow by-gones to be by-gones; the line must be drawn in the sand somewhere else nothing will be left of the European peoples or their religion. Kosovo isn’t dear to you nor to me, but who will defend what I hold dear when the Muslim hoard advances further inland?

Defensive war is just, but offensive war ought to be just when taking back ancestral lands that have been taken by force - I’ll let the Christian scholars here debate over whether that’s justifiable, but it’s common sense that if one civilisation declines to take back land while the other insists on expanding that the latter will triumph.

Birth rates don’t matter if borders are defended. The demographic crisis is brought about by the migrant alien invasion, nothing more. Personally, I would like to live in a less dense area. My state of South Carolina had a sixth its current population in 1861, and I wish the new comers would get themselves fixed already.

Posted by Frank on Feb 21, 2008.

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Mr. Sid Cundiff:
Thank you for speaking truth to ignorance.
If Paleocons are like neocons and as the following reference shows, neocons are cut from the same cloth as
al-Quaida then it follows that Paleocons have more in common with al-quaida than they care to admit.
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_07_16/feature.html
I was interested in this site because Pat Buchannan’s name was associated with this site, as well as the investigative analysis by Justin Raimondo.
It is with regret that I have to report that some of the posts here reflect extreme religious bigotry and ignorance that damage no one except the Paleocon image.
They show an amazing lack of knowledge about the world we live in it all bodes ill for the Paleocons if this is the state of intellect amongst their intellectuals.
Is this anyway to run a circus?

Posted by Allen on Feb 21, 2008.

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The only positive out of this whole mess is the possibility that the Albanians might take half of FYROM.

@ Sid

Thanks for the most intelligent post!! I think it is much more in touch with reality than most everyone else here.

The only contention I have is regarding the Osama 911 link that, while I am perfectly willing to accept as being true (and did until recently) there is far too much evidence to suggest otherwise and many questions about who exactly is behind or at the very least enabled such a crime. Can ANYONE show me ONE picture of a fuselage of the Fl 93 “downed” in PA or at the Pentagon?? If so, I’m happy to accept the culpability of the presumed OBL and AQ “attack”—I used to think such views as being crackpot until I saw evidence clearly pointing otherwise.

There will be no movement forward towards ending the conflict till these issues are addressed, more valid culpability is assigned and the criminals responsible for 9-11 are brought to justice. I don’t care who they are so long as they are the truly responsible ones. We must begin from the beginning and not base things on false presumptions given the accumulating evidence that has come to light thus far.

As for the Islamic jihad charge, Sid, my contention to you is that, firstly, there is no inherent “expansionist” religious dictate whether by scripture or COMMON teachings. Its all a multi-factorial product of religious radicalization based on economics, mis-education, the establishment of a scholarly “class” that has effectively become a priesthood (in a religion where such a concept is blasphemous for us as muslims), politics, cultural disenfranchisement from a invading (primarily American) media whose values MIGHT conflict with religious teachings and values (and as muslims see it - conflicting also with Christian and Judaic values), oppressive dictatorial regime support by the US (esp. Saudi with its Wahhabi - backwards - interpretations, Egypt and the disembowelment of the formerly politically independent religious institutions)… the list is actually more but just a taste.

Secondly, if current greaviences are addressed and there is a REAL attempt at focusing on political and socioeconomic development then all these radical groups will disappear as there will be no support for them.

While its clear I’m in the minority here I think its fair to remind others that Jesus was not born anywhere in Europe last time I checked. And it seems a betrayal to his Word in the teachings of the scriptures that there should be so much faux armchair warmongers (cowardly idiocy imho). Those who’ve lived in war know better.

For those who’d like to see where I am coming from I recommend the following for insight that is authentic rather than the paranoid delusional sources that so many here seem to have cocooned themselves in. Specifically I am recommending “Reading the Muslim Mind” at this link but other good reads are there.

http://www.islamctr.org/publications.htm

Thank you Sid - it was truly refreshing reading.

Peace

FDR wished to end the British Empire and managed it even if he didn’t live to see it. -Taki

Amazingly America is taking up almost exactly where the BE left off. Churchill called it technological control [modern weapons] whereas Rumsfeld called it Shock and Awe.

Posted by Jet on Feb 21, 2008.

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the Israeli connection and 9/11.....

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7127

This was a false figleaf/flag operation if there ever was one.

It all goes back to: A clean Break and Project for a new American Century..its not hard to connect the dots to see 9/11 happened because Israeli handlers were able to get a lot of doors opened.
We cannot be sure of the identity of the hijackers but it seems pretty clear who the enablers were…

Posted by Allen on Feb 21, 2008.

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Vissarion Dzugashvili, besides not knowing the support that the Sam-Franciscans give to Lincoln, or anything about war, has only one serious argument, that a great wall ought be built, in the manner of the Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huang and Walter Ulbricht.  This simply ignores that this would mean war as well. If the conflict be religious (which I doubt) or ethnic irredentist ultranationalist (which I suspect), the very question is: Just where is such a Great Wall to be built?  Pray tell, Mr. D!  And on that question the two sides are hardly in agreement or willing to compromise.  And that means a 100 Years’ Wars patterned on the 30 Years War, with Mr. Dzugashvili playing the role of Cromwell in Ireland, and a Albanian irredentist playing the role of Philip II and the Armada.  So much for just building a wall!  My interlocutor would do better sticking with his travelogues in the Balkans than preaching de facto genocide.

@Sid Cundiff

Hats off.
One of the few intelligent comments on this issue.

The Kosovo Albanians are 20-30% Christian. The rest are Muslims, and not the kind of Muslims that tear down buildings in the name of Allah, but secular ones. Their muslimhood comes from forced and voluntary conversions to islam during the Turkish rule. Before the arrival of the Turks they were all Christians. 

Also, this has nothing to do with religion, as the Serbs are only nominally Christian. Most of them are of the “don’t care” persuasion. Many are still communists.

The Kosovo Albanians aren’t “illegal” immigrants. Their forefathers were in the country long before the arrival of the Serbs. Also, the Serbs tried to openly and litterally exterminate them on several occasions before WW1. Then they tried something of the same kind in the 90-ies, which led to Clinton’s well-founded bombings and to the present situation.

All you who cry against intervention, do you want a situation like the Yugoslav one to mature into a full scale WW3 before anything should be done? Had not the US intervened in Yugoslavia, first on the Serb side, then on the Bosnian Muslim aka Bosniak side, and finally on behalf of the Croatians, the rest of Europe would have been dragged into the conflict. Austria, Hungary and Germany started secretly arming the Croatians, Saudi Arabia and Iran the Bosnian Muslims, and Russia started talking about “helping” the Serbs.

The war by Balkan proxies was just the ouverture to something much more devastating; a new all-European and possibly world war.

Sorry guys, but the posts here have shown that most of you don’t know the first thing about what you’re talking about. With a few notable exceptions. Hats off to them.

Sid’s MO:

Author of the post claims that A is true.
Sid announces that the author of the post claimed B is true.
Sid denounces the author for believing/not believing that B is true.
Sid demands author/others to prove, citing reliable sources, that B is/is not true.
When others decline to bother with B, Sid declares victory and leaves.

Sid, an honest thing to do would be to get your own blog and cover the topics of your choice. Somehow I doubt that you would get even a small fraction of the audience that you get here, hijacking other people’s discussions. You used to comment on Chronicles and you were chastised by readers there for this same behavior, i.e. thread hijacking. By continuing to do it you have demonstrated that you are a parasite.

It may seem that Russia is not doing anything but remember that after the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 it turned away from the West and joined into strategic alliance with China, a turn that most in the West didn’t pay attention to then and are not paying attention to now. The West is going to pay a catastrophic price in the future for failing in the 1990’s to bring Russia into the Western alliance. It’s already starting to pay the price but is still in denial.

America in the 1990’s broke with a long standing policy dating back to Woodrow Wilson to support Yugoslavia as a bulwark against German expansionism. Germany already dominates the EU and the emerging EU army. By America’s support for execution of German policies in Yugoslavia the path has been cleared of obstacles to Germany’s reemergence as a world power. Furthermore, in two phases America cleared the path for Iran to emerge as a world power: first, led by Jimmy Carter whose policies led to the Islamic Revolution in Iran; second, led by George Bush who eliminated the Taliban and Saddam Hussein, enemies on either side of Iran.

In two world wars Germany allied itself with and encouraged Islamic jihadists and mass murder. In WW1 it encouraged its allies the Turks to mass murder the Armenian Christian people. In WW2 it mass murdered Jews and supported fascist Croatia and its mass murder of Jews, Serbs, and Roma. For a third time, at the end of the twentieth century, Germany activity supported and encouraged the Islamic jihad (KLA) and its ethnic cleansing and mass murder of Serbs and Roma, and it supported the reemergence of fascist Croatia and its cleansing of the Serb Krajina.

America is a declining world power that has cleared the way for the emergence of two world powers and for the coming titanic conflict.

Posted by Arius on Feb 22, 2008.

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Vissarion Dzugashvili’s latest: a casebook example of the ad hominem fallacy.

@ Sid Cundiff:

Ad hominem is not a fallacy. Let me cite the definition for you from Wikipedia.
“An ad hominem argument… consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

Now let’s examine your recent postings:

- “Takimag does not recognize “Kosovo”, by Taki; in it Taki argues against imperial meddling in other countries’ affairs, and claims that Albanian rulers of Kosovo are a combination of Islamists, drug dealers and terrorists.
= Sid claims at length that Paleocons and Neocons are the same, also bringing, among others, Ron Paul, Lincoln, and Ivy League schools into the discussion.

- “Kosovo on the Thames” by John Zmirak; John mentions in passing that Kosovo is an Islamic state (which it is, at least nominally, majority of its population being self-identified as Moslems). Otherwise the article describes how Islam is going to create more problems for Europe long term.
= Sid is asking for census data showing observance of Islamic laws in Kosovo and Albania.

- “Putin beyond the propaganda” by Matthew Roberts; the article deals with vilification of Putin in Western media and Putin’s efforts to strenghten Russia.
= Sid demands census data showing Serbian and Russian church attendance.

Again: the process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

Do you see yourself in the mirror, Sid? If you were an engineer working for Ford, you’d come to the meeting of the Mustang engine team to discuss Focus taillights.

More than four IIIyrian Entities compose Albania.
LABEATS, TAULANTS, ALBANS, ENKELEIS, DARASETS and KAONS.
All of them speaks Illyrian language but with different dialects. Three first has a very distinct Illyrian dialect named GEGE and the rest has another Illyrian dialect named TOSKE.
On 1912 they united in one single state and agreed to be named Eagle’s Land. SHQIPERIA.
The foreign “SKOLARS” named Albania based on the name of only one of the Entities.
This was not only Ignorance but also a big mistake of these “very educated Scholars“.
The situation then was so critical for SHQIPETARET, so they accepted any injustice and compromise. This was the big price they pay to gain the independence. Of course many other Illyrian entities was ignored. This has been done in purpose to use Illyrian territories as a trade merchandise to please slavics, which in return were used in two wars. The Slavics paid their price. They lost 56 million people 1908 – 1946. Illyrian paid bigger price. They were spread over 5 different states.
It’s about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito’s Yugoslavia & Milloshevic’s Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD, and they speak a language more similar to Ukrainian then Russian. They have always been a minority and ‘the story’ of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. The borders of Kosova are well established and recognized. Now Kosova should be Free!
To find the answer for the question “do you think Kosovo’s independence will strengthen separatist movements elsewhere”, please refer to:
http://www.acesofww2.com/germany/aces/Hartmann.htm
Erich Hartman – top ace of all the time. German Luftwaffe Bf 109 Pilot.
Near the end of WWII, in early May 1945, Hartmann, then Gruppenkommandeur of famous Jagdgeschwader 52, and his Commodore, Hermann Graf, ground crew, family members, and other civilians, who had joined the squadron, seeking protection approaching Russian army, moved west in direction of territory already occupied by US troops. On May 8th, 1945, the soldiers and civilians surrendered to US troops in the region between Bavaria (German province) and Czech border. But on May 17th, the US Army delivered all of these German troops and civilians to the Red Army. How did the Russian troops treat the civilians? They tortured, raped German woman, children at least 12 years old. Some woman were shot after the rapes. Others were not so lucky. A twelve year old girl whose mother had been raped and shoot being raped by several solders. She died from these acts soon afterward. Then more Russian came, and it began all over again. During the night, entire German families committed suicide with men killing their wives and daughters, then themselves. This is the way the slavics treat the human been, the innocent civilians. This is the way the Serbs treated innocent Croatian, Bosnian and Dardanian civilians. If any entity of human been will be treated like that, then they are in title to ask and gain the independence.

Taki, I am looking forward to reading your acerbic comment on the Skopje affair.  H patrida se xreiazetai!  :-)

Posted by John on Apr 04, 2008.

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