There is certainly some truth in what you say.  At least, when seeing the pathetic sanctimony of that swarthy Communist infanticide, conservatives will have no delusions that success can be won through moderation, appeasement, and a womanly inability to say such obvious things as, ‘Woman’s suffrage is anathema to civilisation,’ and, ‘Democracy is a puerile utopian concept peddled by common miscreants.’

I hope most whites will see that this “historic election” was less about the economy or the wars than it was about Obama as a symbol of anti-white multiculturalism.

My opinion doesn’t count for much in an election, and usually in conversations about matters of government. I attribute that to my failure to drink the koolaid that both of the ‘major’ parties spill all over the inert corpses of their audience.
That said, my opinion about Obama’s appeal is:
1) people who felt like they have been under the bootheel of the machine for a long time, found a hopeful message in his candidacy.
2) people who think that they have no chance, but are sick of being courted by lying bastards found an opportunity to deny the lying bastards power, expressed themselves.
and
3) people who have no interest or understanding of what is going on
but just want to feel good - for a change - after years of fear-mongering and financial ruination, decided to try something different.

You can’t blame them, after all this time, having been told that these pains are the benefits of living in a ‘free market’ society, for wanting a change.
I don’t think most people will understand how the economy gets worse, when it does. I don’t think most people will understand how the war(s) continues when it does. I don’t think most people, after a few more years, will even remeber what it was like to travel freely when they can’t. Oh, excuse me, that have already forgotten that one…
But this won’t be the fault of the fools who elected him, or the fools who supported John McCain.
This will be, and is, the responsibility of all of us who have failed to exercise our rights and powers and allowed the slimy bastards to bury it under mounds of excrement, all intended to ‘change the world for the better’.

This is the first time I have been ashamed of my country.

Exactly right.  During the day, I couldn’t help but root for McCain even though I considered it not in our interest.  But around 8:15 PM one of the networks was talking about the enlarged Dem majorities, and then for a brief instant emotionally I wanted McCain to lose as well.  But that didn’t last. Its the classic head v. heart struggle.

Even some of the white liberals on MSM seemed to realize as they spoke that this change of the nation was not actually good. 

David Gergen was saying the PC right things, but one could also read that it might be dawning on him that a non-white America is not progress or a step forward.  That, in fact, he and his brethren were fools who had destroyed their own house. Let’s hope some are willing to speak up and say it. Because that is what is needed.

The reason for wanting to McCain to lose is that it was necessary to
stop amnesty.

“Thank God McCain Lost!”

Yes, now Barney Frank can be responsible for the Dot.Gov bubble.

It is totally fallacious to view the likes of Bush and McCain as conservatives. They are political opportunists and should be called such.

Thank God McCain lost. Now we don’t have to watch Joe Lieberman (I-Tel Aviv) walking McCain around on a leash anymore. The Republicans deserved to lose for letting the Trotskyites take over the party. GWB will go down in history as another Woodrow Wilson.

Mike, maybe you can tell us why a Congressional Black Caucus is not racist or the same with a Hispanic Caucus. Now Asians want in on the racial spoils system.

Somebody doesn’t have to be a member of the KKK to realize this race pandering by both parties has gone on far too long.

If it is OK for the rest of society to look out for their interests purely on the basis of race, why not for whites?

Mr. Haller, you’re setting yourself up for further disappointment and disillusionment.  There will be no speeding-up of “mature white racial consciousness” because there’s no such thing.  Racial consciousness is inherently immature - a refuge for the underachieved and dispossessed, for people who’ve not yet accomplished anything to be proud of as individuals.  That’s true for blacks and Latinos as well as whites.  Persons of accomplishment cease to hold dear their racial identity because they’ve forged one of their own that’s worthy of pride.  They trade the collectivism of racial pride for the individualism of self-pride, and are the better for it.  It’s an advancement, a progression, part of man’s long slog from the slime to the stars. 

The opposite of what you predict will come to pass, Mr. Haller.  Racially conscious whites will continue to be further marginalized, as is right and proper.  The task is not to engender racial consciousness in whites, but eliminate it in minorities through assimilation and the encouragement and rewarding of achievement. 

I don’t believe Obama’s presidency will bring these things about, mind you.  At best it will not hinder the natural process of evolution from racially conscious collectivism to post-racial individualism, and could likely hinder it, but nothing will stop it.

Responding to Mike:

“The “Racial Right”?”

That’s what it used to be.  That’s what it can be again.

“Wow, some people are still living in those glory KKK days, arent they?”

Yawn.  Once again, progressive racialists being equated with some hate group.  Get some new material.

“You sound like an elderly, in-bred, narrow minded peasant that has never exited
his county and is “afraid of them negroes”. You call yourself a libertarian?
You are a disgrace to humanism to say the least and this is not coming from some
airy-fairy communist..”

The “melting pot” is a myth.  Multiracialism is code for race-replacement.  Integration is code for genocide.

We have every right in the world to associate with whom we please.  Forcing us to live amongst blacks is not a very “libertarian” idea now is it?

It is an honor to be considered a disgrace to humanism, since we have followed history and found out that it is a lie.

Libertarianism is communism turned upside down.  You agree with the Cultural Marxists on many things and don’t even realize.

“Human descency and scientific advance have gone a long way, but apparently failed to
reach every shithole on earth.”

Third World communities are maladaptive because of their own constituents, not because we “don’t aid them enough.” Cut the crap.

Science HAS advanced.  Real science, mind you, not Cultural Marxism masquerading as science.  And it has shown that policies of multiracialism are maladaptive.  They do not permit the survival of majority groups over the long term when they are combined with policies that give preferential treatment to the minorities (as has happened in this country.

Human decency was pioneered by the West.  If anything is a “social construct,” human decency is.  In BHO’s homeland, Kenya, ask how minorities are treated there.  Hint: human decency doesn’t apply.

Admit the truth.  This country was founded by whites.  It was maintained by whites.  It has declined exactly since it was usurped by others.

“We will see what will happen in the next 4 years, fact of the matter is that the
rest of the world already views America in a more positive light. And that matters,
whereever you are putting up your burning crosses.”

What the rest of the world thinks is immaterial.  This is OUR country.  If we want to maintain it as a White nation, it is damn well within our rights to do so.

And please stop with the old KKK/Nazi memes.  They are marks of rank intellectual indolence.

Funny how so many of you will understand 2\3rds of the vile and monstrous lies that gird the foundations of our “civilization”:

1.) Feminism
2.) That fetish totem of all Idolators, Democracy.

Really, every one visiting this site would agree that Feminism and Democracy are evil, and monstrous evil at that. But almost none of you can recognize the 3rd evil lie of our times:

3.) The doctrine of Racial Equality.

If there were such a thing is racial equality, living in Africa or Burma would be as good as living in North America. (It aint the culture stupid- right now we don’t have any culture.)

The (maybe) good news is that 4 years of the vile racial hucksters around Obama will help clear path to a necessary recognition of what a healthy Conservate movement must at all times, and in all ways OPPOSE:

1.) Feminism
2.) Democracy
3.) Racial Equality

Like a fever- it’ll get worse before it gets better, but it will get better.

It was good that John McCain lost last night He was the enemy.  Let us hope for the collapse of the “republic” under Barack Obama.  May unemployment reach 20 % under the Magical Negro.  The country gets what it deserves and may it get it good and hard.

Toddard, you little individualist insect, are you completely unaware that Homo sapiens sapiens has two foundational interests - those of his individual self and those of kinship ... his family, tribe, race?  This is how he is structured, and nothing - absolutely nothing - changes that.  Not education, not postmodernity, not multiculturalism ... nothing.

Your presciption for panmixia is genocide.  You are a genocidalist, dear fellow, but kin your boundless innocence you lack the life-knowledge to know it.  Try this, it might help:-

http://majorityrights.com/images/uploads/EGI.pdf

“Now we don’t have to watch Joe Lieberman (I-Tel Aviv) walking McCain around on a leash anymore. “

he still probably will.  what the heck is up with that anyway?  do they go EVERYWHERE together?

Bush/McCain and the neocons are traitorous conservatives, which is perhaps more repugnant that being a democrat.  This election repudiated the necons.  I pray it will give thoughtful conservatives the impetus to purify ourselves.

“Toddard, you little individualist insect, are you completely unaware that Homo sapiens sapiens has two foundational interests - those of his individual self and those of kinship ... his family, tribe, race?”

Conservatives - note how the lower orders resort first to insult - something with which they at least have some familiarity, one assumes, being on the receiving end so often - before they move on to clumsily fumble at logic and reason? 

And no, I’m not aware that HSS has “two foundational interests”, one of which being “race”, because it’s not remotely true.  In fact, the idea is rather ludicrous - literally funny, in a way.  Imagine HSS wandering out of the savannas of central Asia, blathering on about racial consciousness?  Hahaha.  Oh my! 

Stormfront, people - google for Stormfront.  That’s where your sort congragates.  You can trade fascinating race theories like the one just addressed, and wow each other with other such profound insights.  Just please leave us conservatives out of it.

Thank you.

“Mike, maybe you can tell us why a Congressional Black Caucus is not racist or the same with a Hispanic Caucus.”

Oh God, here we go.  Revolt of the masses.

“Oh God, here we go.  Revolt of the masses.”

I hear you, Bob.  Up next, the classic “They have BET, but it would be ‘racist’ if we hade White Entertainment Television!” argument.

Welcome to Remedial Logic 101.  Gads, what a dismal prospect.

Toddard is full of crap.

If the Right is to make any progress it will have to abandon the shiboleths of race-blind egalitarianism and work up the courage to present itself as a muscular opposition to the Left.

The aracial, egalitarian post-WWII “conservatism” which asserted itself on classical liberal grounds has failed.

Excellent video. Couldn’t agree more. After the disister of 8 years of Republican tyranny, it would have been beyond insane to elect McCain. It’s still a mystery to me how 46% of Americans picked McCain. What does the Republican political class have to do to get a more serious repudiation by the American people? Is there anything left for them to screw up, that would have gotten Americans to see the light as to how corrupt, dumb, incompetent, and dowright criminal the Republicans are?

In any case, thankfully they are now irrelevant. Now the issue becomes who Obama is going to pick for his cabinet. Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff is already bad news. The key one is Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, and some are already suggesting some nasty neo-cons as possibilities. Let’s see if Obama plants the seeds of his own undoing by becoming another neo-con puppet like Bush and McCain. In which case there is no hope for this country.

“Conservatives - note how the lower orders resort first to insult - something with which they at least have some familiarity, one assumes, being on the receiving end so often - before they move on to clumsily fumble at logic and reason?”

You don’t seem averse to ad hominem yourself.  Maybe you should practice as you preach. 

As Guessedworker points out, there is such a thing as “human nature.” IT dictates what WE do.  Not the other way around.  All the “social constructs” in the world will not alter our fundamental nature.  And yes, much of that is loyalty to kith, kin and kind.

“And no, I’m not aware that HSS has “two foundational interests”, one of which being “race”, because it’s not remotely true.  In fact, the idea is rather ludicrous - literally funny, in a way.  Imagine HSS wandering out of the savannas of central Asia, blathering on about racial consciousness?  Hahaha.  Oh my!”

Are you denying that there is such a thing as race?  If so, its you that is uninformed.  Genetics continue to inform us of racial differences.

Of course HSS didn’t blather about racial consciousness.  It came naturally to him.  Loyalty to one’s kin is instinct, not a conscious decision.

Why don’t you try to refure the points instead of insulting them?

“Stormfront, people - google for Stormfront.  That’s where your sort congragates.  You can trade fascinating race theories like the one just addressed, and wow each other with other such profound insights.  Just please leave us conservatives out of it.”

“Our sort,” eh?  Stormfront is a highly suspect group that may have been infiltrated by Zionists.

You don’t seem like a conservative to me.  You seem to be peddling the same tired liberal-to-Marxist ideas that got us to this dreadful place to begin with.

Once again, you resort to the tired old “bigot” insult.  It is intellectual midgetry.

“Thank you.”

You are most welcome.  Have a blessed day.

“If the Right is to make any progress it will have to abandon the shiboleths of race-blind egalitarianism and work up the courage to present itself as a muscular opposition to the Left”

Yes, if the Right is to make any progress it will have to adopt a philosophy that the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans find obscene and repellant, and reject outright.  Indeed, that is the path to success!

Also, there is nothing ‘egalitarian’ about a meritocracy.  If your views on white supremacy reflect reality, then your beloved master race will continue to dominate the political and economic spheres.  What’s there to worry about?

“Stormfront is a highly suspect group that may have been infiltrated by Zionists.”

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Obama as a symbol of anti-white multiculturalism.”

Will you people please learn to distinguish between ethnicity and culture? Because, especially in your lovely meltin’-pot USA, these concepts are two very different kettle of fish. Obama never tires of talking about how his family (the white side, by the way) spent his youth instilling “American values” in him, et c.

“Black culture” in the U.S. is a construct built up as a crutch to replace the identities as Yoruba, Ibo or what have you that was ground out of blacks by slavery. The reason there’s no “white culture” based on group/ethnic solidarity is that this crutch hasn’t been required so far. Whites identify not as “European-American”, but as Italian-, Irish-, Polish- German-, Scandinavian-American or as WASPs or some other category that is defined by cultural and not ethnic factors. Because we’ve never needed the “race crutch” before. I personally believe the people who think we do now to be mistaken, but I listen to diverging views with as much politeness as I can muster.

Toddard,

“Yes, if the Right is to make any progress it will have to adopt a philosophy that the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans find obscene and repellant, and reject outright.  Indeed, that is the path to success!”

The American public once thought that what the social marxists were selling was obscene and repellant.  Yet here we are!

“Also, there is nothing ‘egalitarian’ about a meritocracy.  If your views on white supremacy reflect reality, then your beloved master race will continue to dominate the political and economic spheres.”

You don’t get it.  A healthy virtuous culture can’t be cultivated within a multiracial society that breeds distrust and only cares about its citizens to the extent that they can make money with their “skills”.

Your race-blind meritocracy is being tried right now in Texas and the results don’t look too promising.

The democrats won because they are the party of ethnic identity politics - formerly solid GOP states are now solidly dem. The dems know that the sooner they speed up amnesty the more votes they’ll have.. in other words the more they marginalize whites, the more power they will have, yet the GOP is ‘afraid’ to even touch immigration. Amazing.

“The American public once thought that what the social marxists were selling was obscene and repellant.  Yet here we are!”

Trust me, you Americans haven’t come anywhere near a social marxist… even Barney Frank could find a cozy spot on the left edge of many so-called “Christian Democrat” parties here in Europe.

On the other hand, even our real marxists wouldn’t even contemplate a piece of legislation as vile as FOCA…

S.L. Toddard has things completely backwards. As a recent college graduate I can tell you that it is the individualists who are immature and backwards. Most so called “individualists” are usually potheads, wiggers, punks, goths, indie, you name it. But they all come down to one thing: conformity. To express thier individuality they dress and act just like everyone else expressing thier individuality! Individuality and self-pride today just equals choosing what corporate produced “alternative lifestyle” you conform to. There’s nothing individual about it, it’s feel-good consumerism. Not only that, they accomplish nothing. When not in class they spend all thier time complaining about how boring, unfair, and dull thier lives are; which they then try escape from with heavy drinking and pot smoking. Ask them what they consider their greatest accomplishment in live and they would look at you blankly in the face.

I on the other hand am not only an open White Nationalist but a 24 year-old college graduate who spent the last two summers studying abroad (first France than Italy) but have also traveled to the Caribbean, Monaco, Greece, and Tukey. In France I climbed my first mountain, in Italy I swam over a mile back to shore in the sea, in Greece I hiked a volcano, and in Turkey I gained my tour kind/historian’s admiration for my knowledge of Roman and early Christian history. In my history class in Italy I was the one everyone came to for answers and help studying. And I’ve made dozens of friends (both fellow students and Europeans) from my travels.

On my campus I was chosen to represent my major (Cinema Studies) at the college’s Open House after only 1 semester because I did so well in classes and also had my own political talk show on the student radio station which was openly racialists. Today I have a job I love and where I’m loved by fellow staff and the kids (I’m in childcare) and feel immense pride both individually and racially.

Can you boast about such travel, acclaim, pysical adventures, and respect from peers and youth at 24? Don’t flaunt the smug “I’m the center of the universe” attitude that so many individualist swagger when thier lives in reality have been actually quite unnacomplished. It’s that attitude which turns off so many people, especially conservative people. This attitude you preach is not the one soneone matures into it, it is the attitude of self-centered high school and college students. In our current epoch individuality and “just be yourself” is something shoved down our throats from the time we’re in pre-school and most people don’t grow out of. A real mature person realizes they are part of things beyond themselves: family, community, country, and yes race; they are a part of the universe not the center of it.

Well Mike, Bob, or S.L. Toddard it is a simple question that never seems to get an answer from you people. I know, it is a question only Hitler would ask and does not need to be dignified with an answer, but just try this once.

“Well Mike, Bob, or S.L. Toddard it is a simple question that never seems to get an answer from you people. I know, it is a question only Hitler would ask and does not need to be dignified with an answer, but just try this once.”

It would help if you pointed out what the question is, Mark.
Otherwise, the only thing I’m certain only Hitler (and people since then who want to upset the waiters) ever asked was whether they had Staatlich Fachinger mineral water in the Osteria (known as la Trattoria back then) on Schellingstrasse here in Munich. Goes to show what a barbarian the man was… they have and always had an excellently-stocked cellar.

Although a vast majority of people segregate themselves to some extent(racially, culturally, politically, lifestyle, ethnicity, religious, politically), it would be foolish to speak in racial tones, at least in public.  Americans won’t go for it.  Keep controversial motives behind closed doors.

Jack what we have to remember in all of this is that both of these horses came from the same stable; it is manifestly naive to believe otherwise.
The differences were mostly stylistic.  However, the One embraces his Messianic self with full enthusiasm and is a friend of Odinga, a murderous thug.  His host of dubious associations don’t bode well.  He appears fully ready to use a few pages from the playbooks of dictators past and presence, and his what he has shown of his temper displays much more menace than McCains bluster.
As someone pointed out, McCain played his part masterfully and would have done Sonny Liston proud. Moreover, as far as the world is concerned his mea culpa at the convention is swept out to sea and his POW record stands.

Apologies for the typos.

I like the guy who keeps popping in with inspirational, pro-White poetry.  Haha.  Comic relief certainly serves a purpose, especially as a counter-balance to the unintended comedy of the serious racialists here.  Is majorityrights.com dedicated exclusively to that kind of satire, or is it a more general interest site?

Chaos,

Quit pissing on the wounds of good people with your disgusting rhetoric.  Have you not yet realized it is precisely because of people like YOU that we are in the fix we’re in.  YOU are the reason for the Obama’s of this nation and any other victim or victim group out there. You furnish them with their excuses to push for more and more “recompense” for their victim status. Furthermore, YOU NEED THEM or else your existence is pointless.  How do we know you are not actually an operative from “Their” side, playing a double game - stirring up hatred and discrediting honest efforts to stop the cultural rot?  You are no friend of the Right, nor are you the friend of any mythical “White Man.” You, sir, are a crank and a fool.

Great post!  Made me laugh out loud.

“because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

This is fucking precious.

Don’t “despare”, Bob!

I won’t!  I’m not!  [Sorry for the profanity]

“An interesting discussion, even if somewhat disturbing. Start with this statement, As Guessedworker points out, there is such a thing as “human nature.” IT dictates what WE do. But if that is true, then the election of Obama--or anybody else is inevitable, and there is no use complaining about human beings--or parties or governments or businesses or churches--do or do not do.”

No.  You have made a leap of logic.  I never said that humans operate solely on our inherent nature.  But the scientific idea that I was invoking was the idea of “behavioral ecology.” Certain of our behaviors and capabilities are a priori facts.  Neither nurture nor environment could change those.

“But strictly speaking, human beings do not have a “nature”; they have a supernature. That is, they intentionally choose and participate in their own ends, and can do so according to right reason. Unlike animals, whose ends are given by nature and instinct. Of course, insofar as man is an animal, he shares this nature, and in that sense, tribe and blood are important.”

Genetics determine certain aspects of our behavior at the cellular, individual, microcommunal and macrocommunal levels.  Sorry to say, but there is such a thing as genetic determinism, and it does constitute a “human nature” as such.

“But man is more than that, and transcends such categories. And such categories are not biological in any case. Race is a social category, not a biological one. All humans are human and share both a common nature and supernature. The slight genetic differences that give different color and facial features do not indicate different species, or different anything else, for that matter.”

Biology is not a category.  It is the baseline.  Man can never transcend it.  Hubris to think so.

I never suggested that other races are a different species.  But just as genetic differences determine different phenotypes, they also determine other facts of a given race (e.g. behavior).  You don’t even need advanced scientific studies to show that there are differences between the races.  Simple empirical evidence will do.

“Since we have a supernature, and not JUST a nature, actions are not choosen in advance but intentional. Elections really are interesting because they could always be otherwise. Man really does have freedom; he is not totally bound by nature.”

Does one choose to eat?  Certainly, but then if he doesn’t, he dies.  Reason developed as a means by which we could better survive.  It is not about choice so much as ingenuity.  The hard times during our evolution necessitated the ability to discriminate.  So your “supernature” in effect derives from “nature” itself.  Ergo, it is not a supernature at all.

Ann Nonymous,

Ad hominem is the last refuge of the out-argued scoundrel.

Bob, Ann, and any of the other unracists here, are you familiar with the concept of the Anglosphere and the Anglosphere Primer:

http://www.pattern.com/bennettj-anglosphereprimer.html

If so, what are your opinions about it?

“racial equality” is a non-sequiter. Only fools in the US and Europe believe that drivel. Having lived throughout the world for most of my life, I know what I’m talking about, unlike some of the fools posting here.

Note that the only people mentioning “racial equality” are the racists?  Erecting strawmen and knocking them down is one of the few things they do quite well.

The only “equality” that matters is equality before the law.  The reasons racists focus on these things - i.e. arguing against “racial equality” - is that they have a deep-rooted need to validate themselves.  They suffer from crippling self hatred.  They cannot find anything in themselves of value, but if their “race” is “the best” race, well, then they MUST have value. 

Treat them as an anthropologist studying a newly discovered species of monkey.  It’s easy to discover what motivates them if you simply pay attention and employ a modicum of consideration.

I think that the esteemed participants of the discussion would benefit from refreshing their knowledge of the statements described in the book “The Blank Slate” by Steven Pinker (at the time of writing - Professor of MIT, now of Harvard University). Pinker refutes there 3 incorrect dogmas of SSM - Standard Sociological Model, which model unfortunately is adopted by the most of political and educational elites. They are, respectively: The Blank Slate dogma, The Noble Savage dogma, and Ghost out of Machine dogma.
The first one assumes that there is no such thing as human nature, and that everything is “written on the blank slate of human mind” by the culture (the nurture assumption). The second one assumes that all men are born with noble propensities only, and were noble in their savage state; it is only society (ancient Greek, feudal, capitalist, communist; choose your own favorite object of displeasure) that results in un-noble motives and actions. The third dogma assumes that there is a Ghost, not belonging to material world, which descends on the blastocyte (proto-embryo, made of only 1 cell) right at the moment of conception of a human, and further will constitute his or her Immortal Soul. As you see, the 1st and the 2nd dogmas are the credo of predominantly Democrats, and the 3rd one is predominantly shared by Republicans.
Dear participants of the discussion! You should better make it clear(for yourself, first of all!), where do you stand on these issues, and only after understanding that, even without public declarations, go to the discussion.

If the people here who say racialism is bunk and only underachieving racist beleive in it why have they not left majority white america or Europe to live in Haiti, South Africa, or Saudi Arabia? Their actions show the hypocracy of thier rhetoric.

Toddard,

You are the embodiment of how the conservative movement has been infested by Marxism.  Its almost like parody.  You use Freudian criticism to explain why racialists do as they do.  You promote the NON CONSERVATIVE dogma of “equality or else” ie equality at the LCD.  You talk of equality before the law - which is an oxymoron in itself (not accounting for the difference between individuals is discriminatory).  Admit it, you are a liberal-to-Marxist as I said before.  That’s fine, but don’t expect us to buy it.  We know its a bankrupt philosophy.

Another thing before I go: why won’t you “antis” debate the reasoned points our side has made?  You apparently claim some high ground - it must be moral, because you aren’t winning on logic or science.  The very fact that you don’t shows how truly confident you are in your position. 

The old “patriot movement” is dead, stick a fork in it.  We will not resurrect a failed ideology when we can craft one that serves our own interests rather than those of others who care nothing for us.

“Still waiting on your reply. What would you accomplish on a deserted island - alone, sans knowledge, sans culture, sans technology you did not create - but with maximum “individual freedom” and your own resources? Nothing at all.”

I’m sorry - I honestly didn’t think that was a real question.  What would I accomplish on a desert island… I suppose I would build a shelter.  Wait - are there trees on this island?  Animals?  Please describe the flora and fauna of this island, as well as the nature of the fresh water supply - abundant?  Easily accessed?  Also what is the weather like there - temperate?

Could Taki just put in some automated software that would delete any post with the following words “white race”, stormfront, Nazi’s, Hitler, David Duke, National Alliance, KKK? Thanks.

“You are the embodiment of how the conservative movement has been infested by Marxism.”

Really.  What is “Marxism”?

“You promote the NON CONSERVATIVE dogma of “equality or else”

That’s news to me.  Please cite where I promote that “dogma”.

“Admit it, you are a liberal-to-Marxist as I said before.”

What is a “liberal”?  What is a “Marxist”?  What do you mean by these words?

“That’s fine, but don’t expect us to buy it.”

Haha.  I’m not trying to sell you anything, youngster.  You run along and do whatever it is you’re trying to do.  I’m not trying to persuade you - I’m simply laughing at you.

“Another thing before I go: why won’t you “antis” debate the reasoned points our side has made?”

I must have missed something…

“The old “patriot movement” is dead, stick a fork in it.  We will not resurrect a failed ideology when we can craft one that serves our own interests rather than those of others who care nothing for us.”

By all means - serve your own interests.  I wouldn’t dream of trying to recruit you to any cause of mine.  Please trust me on that.

At the same time as they voted heavily for Obama in California, and comfortably for him in Florida, they also voted (very strongly in Florida, at least) to define marriage as only ever the union of one man and one woman. That is one of several illustrations of the fact that this is a victory for morally and socially conservative foreign policy realists. If Democrats, whether permanently or even for the purposes of a single election, they are only ever and by definition Democrats for economically populist reasons. Which are, of course, the right reasons.

Those are the people who have put Obama in. And those are the people who could and should put him right back out again in 2012 if he does not deliver the goods on all three of economic populism, moral and social conservatism (at the very least, don’t make matters any worse), and foreign policy realism. Yes, of course he is going to beat Sarah Palin anyway. But he has no absolute right to be the Democratic nominee at all. Look at the huge numbers now registering as Democrats. They cannot be Hard Leftists, diehard liberals or peaceniks, since people like that were already registered Democrats. And they might not always have nowhere else to go.

Perhaps the treason of Randy Scheunemann, who would have been McCain’s National Security Advisor, will now be investigated and prosecuted?

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is on course for the Supreme Court (where she cannot make abortion any worse, because it could not possibly be any worse), and since 1974 no Republican has won statewide office in New York without the endorsement of the Buckley-founded Conservative Party of New York State. So the Democrats should be looking for someone who can win that endorsement on family values, on strictly limited and strictly legal immigration, on fair trade, on constitutional checks and balances, on national security, on energy independence, on Second Amendment rights and responsibilities, on America as an English-speaking country, and (one trusts, now that Bush is out of the way) on foreign policy realism, as surely as winning the endorsement of the Working Families Party on the protection of workers and consumers, on fair tax, on constitutional checks and balances, on universal health care, on Social Security, on environmental responsibility, on Civil Rights, and on foreign policy realism.

Nothing could better befit a state named after the last Catholic King of England, Scotland and Ireland (indeed, the only ever Catholic King of all three, unless you count his brother’s very final moments).

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“It cuts to the heart of your laughable individualism.”

Yes.  Bully for you.  You’ve turned centuries of individualist thought on its head with your magnificent desert-island demonstration.  Bravo, old soldier.  Vae victis!

Hey everyone - Captainchaos has a nifty new dictionary.  Are we all on the same page with that?  There is a Dictionary (a book containing a collection of words and their definitions arranged alphabetically), Captainchaos has it in his possession, and he’s ready (and very willing) to use it.

Okay Cap’n, I think your work is done here.  Thanks.

“Individualism is little more than a historically and socially situated Western fad, itself wholly a product of arrogance and ignorance, masquerading as a serious idea. The vast majority of Americans (including “conservatives")conform to the individualist fashion to some degree or another. All they really care about is lifestyle choices and cheap consumer products. It is the odd ethical man who reflects upon his debt to his ancestors and his obligations to future generations of his lineage.”

A mischaracterization followed by an oxymoron, a strawman and a non-sequitur, and the whole thing shot through with an animosity towards the great traditions of the West and, by extension, the West itself.  Marvelous.

“any of the other unracists here, are you familiar with the concept of the Anglosphere and the Anglosphere Primer”

I’m afraid I’m not qualified to comment.  I looked into a bit of it a few years ago after having read a book by Robert Conquest and some related articles by John O’Sullivan and others.

Hey you guys know there’s no such thing as “Christendom” anymore, right? 

Also, am I the only one who appreciates the irony of the white racialists worshipping a Jew and the tribal desert god of the Jews that HE worshipped?  It’s almost poetically convoluted.

Perhaps this was the best of all outcomes 1). A decsive McCain loss; 2). No fillibuster-proof
Senate to go off and make Obama a king; 3). A GOP that’s battered but not destroyed and in good
enough shape to make up for lost ground quickly if Obama and the Congressional Dems stumble; 4).
A discredited “conservative establishment” that will allow openings for more populist voices and
those of dissent to be heard.

“Any other ingenious criticisms, Toddard?”

Yes, actually.  Off the top of my head I can think of sixty two trillion.  Give or take a dozen.  Somewhere between sixty-two-trillion-and-twelve and sixty-one-trillion-nine-hundred-ninety-nine-billion-nine-hundred-ninety-nine-million-nine-hundred-ninety-nine-thousand-nine-hundred-eighty-eight.  In that range.

“BTW, are you anti-Christian?”

No, not at all.  I just recognize that “Christendom” no longer exists, or at least it has shrunk in both geography and majesty to the extent that the “dom” suffix is a bit overambitious.  I was merely pointing out the absurdity of white racists worshippin various Jews and/or their gods.

That doesn’t apply to you, apparently, which is fine.

Toddard,

“and the whole thing shot through with an animosity towards the great traditions of the West and, by extension, the West itself.”

You are right, but not in the way you expect.  The liberal societies of the West govern themselves on the premise that there are no tribes, to the point of outlawing any sort of tribal response to what are clearly tribal attacks.  This is the fruit of Western individualism:  the liberal society is eventually overthrown by illiberal elements.

“worshippin”

That was a typo, not a down-home Palinesque dumb-down g-drop.

Toddard,

“Really.  What is “Marxism”?”

Cultural Marxism could mean the theories of Freud, the SJ Gould race-denial, the intolerance of opinions that run counter to your own.  All of these are your MO.

“That’s news to me.  Please cite where I promote that “dogma”.”

You implicitly support it by not allowing whites to explicitly support their own interests.  It must be a dogma, as you haven’t used reasoning, logic or fact to back up your argument (i.e. you take it on faith).

“What is a “liberal”?  What is a “Marxist”?  What do you mean by these words?”

See above.

“Haha.  I’m not trying to sell you anything, youngster.  You run along and do whatever it is you’re trying to do.  I’m not trying to persuade you - I’m simply laughing at you.”

Really?  Your venomous tone belies a deep personal wound.  You don’t write as though you are in high spirits.

“I must have missed something…”

Then you did so willingly.  Its there if you look.

“By all means - serve your own interests.  I wouldn’t dream of trying to recruit you to any cause of mine.  Please trust me on that.”

Your opinions and attitude preclude us ever being allies anyway.  Ta-ta!

“Race is a social category, not a biological one.”

Sincerely, Sickle Cell Anemia.

“What empirical evidence? That blacks have natural rhythm? That white men can’t jump?” John M

Yeah, you’re on the right track.

““Race is a social category, not a biological one.”

Sincerely, Sickle Cell Anemia.”

HA!

Toddard is a bright shining example of why the post-WWII fushionism of Ayn Randian hyper-individualism, being respectable to liberalism, and phoney traditionalism has utter failed to conserve anythging in America. First is that an individualist being a part of somekind of Conservative movement is a contradition. Conservatism is about holding up traditional standards of the smaller and larger community against the selfishness of the atomized individual. Toddard must be horrified that the Conservative movements biggest issues: anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-religion in schools, anti-legalization of drugs, and anti-mass immigration are all utterly opposed to putting the abstract “rights” of individuals over the standards and traditions of the community. Also any individualist if he truly is one would be opposed to joining any political movement since to have a successful political movement involves a level of collectivism in that its supporters are fighting for the same ideas as other with common tactics and actions as others. Since any individualist stands alone he shouldn’t have any use for common interests and actions, hence eiher Toddard’s individualism is fake or his place in the Conservatie movement is fake. Also an individualist movement is an oxymoron on its face.

White Natioalists also completely reconize that there is no longer anything called “Christiandom” that’s why they don’t think Christianity will be the main savior of the West. It is undeniable that for the last 2,000 years the West and Christianity have been synomomous with each other. Christianity insipred the greatest works of architecture, painting, literature, music, and culture in the West. At the same time it has been Westerners (IE: whites) who have been Christianity’s greatest defenders and spreaders, the Crusaders and the hymm Onward Christian soldiers come to mind. But today the Faith itself along with democracy, the political system birthed by Western Civilization’s great grandfathers the Greeks, and most definately the uniquely Western philosophy of individualism have all been infected with Cultural Marxism thereby turning against the people that birthed, defended, and spread them. Because of this White Nationalist realize that the race itself can only save the contemporary West. Instead of merely trying to save the work’s of an artist, they’re trying to save the artist himself.

Sickle-cell anemia is not associated with race; it is associated with mosquitoes. The same mutation that causes it also confers an immunity to malaria. Therefore people in malaria prone regions tend to have a higher incidence of SCA.

What is it with you and anti-racial propaganda (aka lies)?

This is an immunity blacks developed.

Different ethnic groups have developed different adaptations to similar threats. SCA is what blacks developed over time in Africa, but it isn’t something that developed elsewhere.

Bloggers! A question:

Why are all my comments deleted from this site? I write as well as anyone, and am certainly no more ‘extreme’ than many others whose comments are left posted, yet my material is immediately erased. Anyone think there is an ulterior motive to the policy of this cowardly site: ie, it’s OK to post semi-illiterate “racist” rants, but really literate postings advocating a mature white racial consciousness (words I used earlier, quoted by others, yet now erased) are deleted.

Why should this be? Takimaggots are phonies: they pose as authentic conservatives, but really, they don’t want to have open debate about the most important conservative issue: the survival of the white race. “Ye shall know them by their deeds.”

Libertarains such as LToddard are pushing a very abnormal view of human nature. In fact, what they arepushing is fundmentally anti-human. Human beings are manifestly social creatures. The Libertarian conception of human nature-isolated greedy utility function maxmizers-is a blueprint for producing a society of psychopathss. Native Born White Americans are not interchangeable with millions of chinese in China and millions of hindus living in Indin India ...once Native Born White Americans on a large enough scale, American will no longer exist. America is obviously not an idea nation....A majority of Native White Americans are in fact racial in their thinking. They vote with their feet agianst the blessings of diviversity...On another note, I am curently banned from TAki.com due to the efforts of one John Zimrack. Kind of odd, since my posts always get the most responses.

Should read:Once Native Born White Americans are replaced on a large enough scale, American will non longer exist.

The answer to the question “who would make a better president of the United States?” is not necesarily the same answer you would give in response to “who is more likely to help the advancement of conservatism?”.

The answer to the latter is probably Obama, in a purely narrow-minded and tactical sense. As for the interests of the country, check back next year, when we are still at war in Iraq and Afghanistan (and probably the Sudan)and every lever of government will be pulled by the forces of the left.

Either Native Born White Americans politically organize around their legitimate racial interests or they will face race replacement within the borders of America. This is fundamental. The RNC will in all likely promte hindu operative Bobby Jindal to finish the job of race replacing Native Born White Americans.

I have a question...am I racist for say the only thing Obama offers change wise is the color of his skin?? He is just as fucked up as McCain and honestly the rest of the Republicans! Ron Paul’s ideas for this country are the only true hope we have for this country, either way Republican or Democrat, this country is doomed.

Also I’m proud to be white and i really don’t think this country is in anyway ready for a black president.

Also the SOUTHERN AVENGER IS THE MAN!!!!!!

They can switch any of the clowns on FM talk in my city with Jack Hunter any day as far as I’m concerned. 

Jack, why don’t you have a national contract yet?  Probably your opinions are a little too controversial for ClearChannel.

[“Excuse me, I’m taking a poll for school and I’d just like to ask you a few short questions?”

“Ok.”]

I drove out to the retirement community near where I live and asked the seniors, while they shopped for groceries etc. in their supermarket who they were voting for? All of whom had voted for W. Bush either once or twice. That was my first question. “Ok, did you vote for W. Bush in 2000 or 2004?” If they answered they had voted for him at least once, I continued with the next question about the current election.

7 out of 10 told me they had either already sent in their ballots for Obama, or intended to vote for him.

This done only days prior to the election.

[“Why, is there any special reason for Obama?”

“Well, Bush with that war and everything, the bailouts etc. has wrecked this wonderful country of ours,”] was in one case of the 10 interviewed in an hour or so, the exact response.  And all of the other white seniors’ response voting for Obama were in words to that effect.

So when white, senior republicans essentially in a red state are voting for Obama by that high a percentage, I knew it was a landslide of historic proportions.

“Bloggers! A question:

Why are all my comments deleted from this site?”

My guess:  The writers and admins at Takimag are embarassed by them, and do not want themselves, their writings, their ideas, their magazine or their movement associated with them. 

Just a guess.  Shot in the dark.

Apropos of nothing, is there irony in white racialists championing a race the vast majority of which finds white racialists and white racialism repulsive in the extreme and thus emphatically rejects them and it? 

They seek to exult and promote their would-be destroyers.  The white race is, by and large, the greatest enemy of white racists - it is the white race that seeks most earnestly to destroy white racism.  It has, to a large extent, succeeded, which is why you only find white racists on the utter fringe now - ostracized completely by civilized white society and viewed by them as a sort of disgusting curiosity.  It really is ironic.

Quote Ryszard Anderszewski “Human decency was pioneered by the West. If anything is a “social construct,” human decency is.”

Sir, that is an excellent line. I shall be remebering it.

“My guess:  The writers and admins at Takimag are embarassed by them, and do not want themselves, their writings, their ideas, their magazine or their movement associated with them.”

That’s unfortunate.  I’ve never considered Haller’s comments any more poisonous than those of, say, black nationalists Farrakhan or Sharpton.  Far, far less, as a matter of fact.  They put a good face on racial realism.

“Just a guess.  Shot in the dark.”

Probably, but that doesn’t make them “right.”

“Apropos of nothing, is there irony in white racialists championing a race the vast majority of which finds white racialists and white racialism repulsive in the extreme and thus emphatically rejects them and it?”

Not really.  Racialism is a natural human impulse (see above), but whites are indoctrinated from a very early age in “white guilt, anti-racism, tolerance, PC,” etc.  This is sleight-of-hand to distract us from the fact that we are being race-replaced in our own native lands.  This isn’t difficult to understand.

“They seek to exult and promote their would-be destroyers.  The white race is, by and large, the greatest enemy of white racists - it is the white race that seeks most earnestly to destroy white racism.  It has, to a large extent, succeeded, which is why you only find white racists on the utter fringe now - ostracized completely by civilized white society and viewed by them as a sort of disgusting curiosity.  It really is ironic.”

They seek to destroy “racism” (realism) only because the milieu of our culture tells us from birth that it is “the right thing to do.” From a survivalist standpoint, it isn’t.  If “civilized society” ostracizes racialists, that is because it doesn’t realize what is at stake.  That makes us visionaries, not crazies.  We care very little what an indoctrinated white thinks of us now, we only hope that we can get them to see that they are in error.  Irony has nothing to do with it.

Does Toddard really believe blacks could be convinced they’d be better off by abandoning their racial identities?  Why on earth would they?  What would they have to gain?  How would a Toddard go about explaining to them the benefits they will accrue by doing so?

What about Mexicans?  They clearly organize on the basis of their nationality.  Multicultural America serves them everything they desire on a platter.  What incentive could they possibly be provided to abandon their national identity that would outweigh the advantages they clearly perceive themselves deriving from organizing around it?

Multiculturalists apparently see so little wrong with such groups pursuing their group interests that they encourage them to keep doing so.  Why then is it considered wrong for whites to similarly organize (so wrong as to be some sort of ‘ultimate evil’)?  Why is better for whites to see themselves as individuals only rather than as members of the white race?  Dispossession and displacement seems to be all that it has brought them so far.

Right on, silver.  Good points.

With McCain’s crushing defeat, I suggest the Republican party’s national leadership consider the following:

- McCain’s campaign imposed an omerta on anything that could be even tangentially perceived as bringing Obama’s blackness into play. Nineteen months after Steve Sailer made known the Illinois Senator’s focus on taking white wealth and giving it to blacks, along with his close association with Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s glaring political weakness was left unexploited. Although all the hate over race took place on the left, McCain’s campaign continues to be denounced for being racist.

- McCain’s lifetime actions on immigration legislation earn him a grade of “D”, he has entered into a legislative amnesty alliance with Ted Kennedy, at his RNC acceptance speech he spoke of the “God-given right” of the “Latina daughter of migrant workers” to reach her full potential in America and disallowed other speakers from mentioning immigration at all, he chose strident open borders champion Juan Hernandez as his Hispanic outreach director, and he made three appearances before Hispanic groups in July alone (including La Raza). Obama, meanwhile, was clobbered among Hispanics in the Democratic primaries. For all of McCain’s hispandering and the uneasiness Hispanics showed for Obama, McCain lost among Hispanics by more than 2-to-1.

- Despite a highly-publicized suspension of his campaign to ensure passage of one of the largest governmental bailouts in American history, McCain is being accused by Obama and portrayed in the major media as a diehard supporter of unregulated, hands-off free market capitalism.

- McCain was the major media’s favorite Republican Presidential candidate. How much goodwill does that count for? Pew Research reports:

“By a margin of 70%-9%, Americans say most journalists want to see Obama, not John McCain, win on Nov. 4.
In short, this most leftist of Republicans is being portrayed as a far right ‘extremist’.”

From this, the GOP should conclude that following a couple steps behind the Democratic party in a race to the left is not a winning formula, nor will it endear Republicans to a leftist media.

White people in the US have voted for Obama over there other preferred candidate McCain.

You’re mistaken. McCain-Palin won among whites by twelve points. Obama’s victory is therefore a symptom of our ongoing dispossession: We are losing the power to select our leaders. Absent the post-1965 immigration invasion, Obama would have lost in a GOP landslide.

McCain may have lost the election...But he might still have a chance to be Presidant......

S.C.O.T.U.S.’s SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE (vault copy of) BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1st

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