The Liberals’ Reagan
Posted by Jack Hunter on November 10, 2008
When I point out to my conservative friends that in terms of federal spending and exploding deficits, Reagan’s limited government rhetoric didn’t always match reality, they are offended that I would dare question the Republican messiah. Likewise, conservatives can take solace in the fact that the right-wing nightmares and left-wing dreams induced by the new Democratic messiah won’t amount to much either. As of this writing, Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers haven’t been considered for any cabinet positions, but former Clinton officials John Podesta, Carol Browner and William Daley have. In fact, there isn’t much to indicate that the second black president will govern much different from the first.
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A good summary. Not much difference in the Warfare Welfare party.
Interesting that Rush is talking about the Obama depression. In spite of all the efforts of the entire Republican machine, White House, Senate and House, and Supreme Court efforts, the relentless Obama has destroyed the economy.
Palin and Joe the Plumber better start the counter counter revolution and save the country before Obama gets sworn in to do even more damage.
Joe needed a little help from the welfare state but he is against long term abuse. Alaskan Democrats are waiting to see if Palin will start working with them again to get her priorities through the legislature.
All we need now is a missing hot blond to get the news cycle back to normal.
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What I like about the Southern Avenger is that by being down in lovely Charleston, he can escape the tribalism of urban life - take in a broader view, and thus be less personally bothered by Obamafication than those of us idiots who chose to live in NYC and ride the subway with the Messiah’s flock.
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Reagan was in large measure a New Deal Democrat whose party had moved leftward and left him behind. Conservatives projected their hopes onto Reagan and created a mental picture of him at odds with the reality.
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Podcast now!
There is no reason we can’t have at least a half hour show with interviews.
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Obama’s entire past was anchored in radical anti-American, anti-white, black-identity ideology (As Mr. Sailer has reliably documented in his on-line book)his entire record as a Legislator in Illinois and Washington has been one of extreme leftism, he has has named the execrable Rham Emanuel as his Chief of Staff, he appears to have adopted Emanuel’s “The Plan"(’s) idea of forced community service (Domestic Draft, if you wil), he has his minions on the TV talk show circuit speaking of his being ready, on day one, to begin to RULE, Bill Ayers is being rehabilitated by the press,etc etc etc. but I am supposed to think Obama will govern like Clinton?
For the love of Mohammed’s Mother, I do not understand this.
I guess conservatives have concluded that, unlike anyone else who has ever been a politician, Barack will not act on his most deeply held beliefs.
Mr. Sailer has illustrated how for virtually his entire life Barack Obama has consciously chosen as friends, mentors, and allies, radical black political activists, has consciously chosen a path so he could gain political power so as to take from the wicked right and give to the blessed black but now that he has, at long last, gained THE maximum amount of political power any man will have ever had at his disposal, he will act like a moderate?
Don’t bogart that joint my friend…
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It’s rather early to speak about Obama policies, no?
From what is going on so far, it seems that it’s not going to be the Obama Show and that he won’t rule like a tyrant. His demeanor after victory is not that of a an ecstatic victor, but that of someone seriously troubled about what he’s gotten himself into.
What this indicates is permanence of the status quo to some extent. His first order of business was to please his biggest contributors: jews- by placing them first and foremost on his team. Second, to please the angry Clintonites- again, by getting as many former Clinton bureaucrats to stand behind him onstage as possible.
It is quite possible that Obama will start acting more moderately. He’s a lawyer from some expensive school. Which means he’s an opportunist who seeks first and foremost his own advantage. Being some black radical gets you many places in America. But it won’t help his presidency one bit though. And that’s something he seems he realized already (or will soon). He doesn’t seem to suffer from Republican-stupidy that self-destructs the patient for the sake of radical neoconism.
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Mr. Hunter. I apologise for the nasty Bogart-Joint snarkiness.
You deserve better.
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While I admired the man, two things Reagan did have consequences that were the antitheses of conservative and true patriotism. 1) He acquiesced in the naming of a Martin Luther King national holiday. While I and thousands of others was serving in Vietnam, MLK was marching in anti-war parades with enemy banners flying. The man had no honor, but we have a holiday for him? 2) Reagan signed on to the Simpson Mazzoli immigration Bill which granted amnesty to illegals and was a fraud.
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Wartime presidents don’t have a lot of latitude. You can’t remove thousands of troops and their equipment with a blink of the eye and a wave of the hand. As I recall, Nixon promised to resolve Vietnam in the 1968 campaign. Let’s see now...Didn’t it take us until Ford’s administration to get out?
(And, it wasn’t pretty!)
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“As I recall, Nixon promised to resolve Vietnam in the 1968 campaign. Let’s see now...Didn’t it take us until Ford’s administration to get out?
(And, it wasn’t pretty!) “
The last US troops were withdrawn in 1973 per the Paris Peace Accords.
The fall of Saigon came two years later. James Webb(among many others) thinks the Saigon regime would have survived if the Dem Congress had not cut off aid.
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The Republicans have long been excoriated for Herbert Clark Hoover. The Democrats have just elected their Hoover. Change? How about “Buddy can you spare me a dime?”
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Nixon promised to get out of Vietnam then dithered about to achieve “Peace with Honor”. When he was about to get beat in 1972, Kissinger quickly put together the peace conferences so Nixon could beat the clock and remove that as a point of contention in the election.
Nixon also tried escalation into Laos and Cambodia during his first term so it wasn’t his latitude that stopped him it was the same thing that stopped LBJ - he didn’t want to be accused of losing Vietnam.
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James Webb and all the rest could think anything they want but it is probably just the same stupidity that affected us when we went in after the French were kicked out.
I remember reading an article in Soldier of Fortune about Moshe Dyan talking about how he went over there and interviewed people like university professors before things really got hot. The professors told him the Viet Cong were everywhere in the south and not like the US government portrayed it.
We misread Ho Chi Minh and his resolve. The government of the south was corrupt and incompetent. All the military competency was in the North. The general of Diem Bien Phu was Vo Nguyen Giap the commander in the North. The army of the south folded up like a cheap tent once the war was in their hands alone.
Ho is said to have said that they were willing to fight for 30 years and that eventually the Americans will go home and we will win. When some American officer is said to have told Giap that the North never won a battle, Giap replied “Yes, but it is irrelevant”.
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The South Vietnamese Army actually repelled a full-scale northern assault in 1972. American air support was crucial to that success, however, and Congress later cut that off.
Essentially, maintenance of the status quo 1972 would have required an indefinite American commitment to provide military support to the South Vietnamese regime. In that sense, it had much in common with the then situations in Korea and Germany, and with the so-called American “success” in Iraq today.
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Webb on the fall of South Vietnam:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=1C8D3E09-9B12-49DF-9D4D-3EDA7899672D
Of course, it’s all ancient history, unlike, say, The Holocaust.:)
The JBS was right to oppose to oppose the Vietnam War because the
Communist-friendly elites of the US(in power continually since 1933) really saw the brown South Vietnamese as much the same as the horrid white Rhodesians. LBJ’s manic troop buildup only took place because he thought the fall of the RVN would bring about the emergence of a new Joe McCarthy.
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Jack you underestimate or ignore the menace of the man, a quality that 43-40, did not possess to any comparably significant degree regardless of their actions or character flaws.
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Jack............You are wise beyond your years. “Dubya” will be the Jammy Carter of the GOP, and yes Reagan is a bit over dramatized! When he entered office there were 9 billionares in America and 99 when he left.(A dream come true for Wall Street Elitism).......Oh, but what charm?
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