The Neocons’ Palin Project
Will the neocons who tutored George W. Bush in the ideology he pursued to the ruin of his presidency do the same for Sarah Palin?
Should they succeed, they will destroy her. Yet, they are moving even now to capture this princess of the right and hope of the party.
In St. Paul, Palin was told to cancel a meeting with Phyllis Schlafly and pro-life conservatives. McCain’s operatives said Palin had to rest for her Wednesday convention speech.
Yet, on Tuesday, Palin was behind closed doors with Joe Lieberman and officials of the Israeli lobby AIPAC. There, according to The Washington Post, Palin took and passed her oral exams.
“Palin assured the group of her strong support for Israel, of her desire to see the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and of her opposition to Iran’s aspirations to become a nuclear power, according to sources familiar with the meeting.”
AIPAC’s mission, like that of Likud, is to goad America into launching air and missile strikes on any and all Iranian nuclear facilities.
AIPAC went away happy. Purred spokesman Josh Block, “We were pleased that Gov. Palin expressed her deep personal commitment to the safety and well-being of Israel.”
Heading home to Alaska to prepare for her interview with Charlie Gibson, Palin was escorted by Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s foreign policy guru and, until March, a hired agent of the Tbilisi regime.
Scheunemann’s lobbying assignment: Bring Georgia into NATO, so U.S. troops, like 19-year-old Track Palin, will be required to fight Russia to defend a Saakashvili regime that has paid Randy and his partner $730,000.
Reportedly, a phone conversation was held between Saakashvili and Palin, in which Palin committed herself to the territorial integrity of Georgia, though South Ossetia and Abkhazia have declared independence and been recognized by Moscow, which now has troops in both.
Also on Palin’s plane was Steve Biegun, formerly of Bush’s National Security Council, and Scheunemann’s choice to tutor her. Of Biegun, Steven Clemens of the New American Foundation says, “He will turn her into an advocate of Cheneyism and Cheney’s view of national security issues.”
During her interview with Gibson, Palin often took a neocon line. Three times she said that, should Israel decide to attack Iran, the United States should not “second guess” Israel’s decision or interfere.
This contradicts U.S. policy. Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs, has warned Israel not to attack Iran, as the United States does not want a “third front.” And the Pentagon is withholding crucial weapons the Israelis want and need to carry out any such attack.
Palin also volunteered that the Russian invasion was “unprovoked,” though Georgia attacked South Ossetia first. She followed up by saying that Georgia and Ukraine should be brought into NATO.
Would that mean America would have to go to war with Russia on behalf of Georgia in any new conflict, asked Gibson.
“Perhaps so,” said Palin.
Scheunemann should get a fat severance check from Saakashvili for that one.
One ex-White House aide at American Enterprise Institute, asked by Tim Shipman of the Daily Telegraph if AEI sees Palin as a “project,” replied: “Your word, not mine. ... But I wouldn’t disagree with the sentiment. ... She’s bright, and she’s a blank page. She’s going places, and it’s worth going there with her.”
In fairness to Palin, on issues like NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia, her answers reflect the views of the man who chose her. She has no option at present but to follow the line laid down by Scheunemann.
But make no mistake. Sarah Palin is no neocon. She did not come by her beliefs by studying Leo Strauss. She is a traditionalist whose values are those of family, faith, community and country, not some utopian ideology.
Wasilla, Alaska, is not a natural habitat of neoconservatives.
And her unrehearsed answers to Gibson’s questions reveal her natural conservatism. Asked if she agrees with the Bush Doctrine, Palin asked for clarification. “In what respect, Charlie?”
Gibson: “Do we have the right of an anticipatory self-defense?”
Yes, said Palin, “if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against (the) American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.”
Exactly. The intelligence must be legit and the threat “imminent.”
Interviewed by Alaska Business Monthly in March 2007 on the surge, Palin said, “I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place.”
That is not the language of empire or “benevolent global hegemony.”
Palin may disappoint many conservatives in the next seven weeks by having to parrot the McCain-neocon line on NATO expansion, NAFTA and a “path to citizenship” for illegal aliens. But the battle for Sarah’s soul is not over.
For, again, the lady is no neocon. Nor is the husband Todd, First Dude of Alaska and former member of the “Alaska First” Independence Party.
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There he goes again, imagining things about Sarah’s “soul” and Todd’s “dudeness”. Here’s some news, Sellout Pat. Sarah and Todd ain’t got no soul. They are a couple of ignorant hicks thrown into the limelight. No matter what you say, no matter what you do, they’re neocon mincemeat.
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I actually liked her when I first heard about her, and I hope she is able to keep her soul in spite of her running mate and his useful idiots. I would ask xman how the Palins are ignorant hicks, is it because of their religion? Or because they are from Alaska. True, they are mincemeat for now, it’s just a question of whether she can keep her sanity, assuming she has any left after signing up with McCain.
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Actually, Pat is coming around a little bit. He may be right that her instincts are better than average. The problem with Palin has never been that she lacks experience. The problem is that she lacks depth. (Now experience can certainly contribute to depth.) Had she been a reader of TakiMag and Chronicles during here alleged paleo days, then she wouldn’t be such putty in their hands now.
xman, calling people hicks is not helpful. We could use more elected “hicks.”
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xman? give your real name, don’t hide under anonymity of democratic nonsense. you leftys like the neocons--populist Americans do not!!! Mencken would love what’s happening today.
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If Palin is the “hope of the party”, then I’m comforted by the thought of the party’s imminent demise. The GOP should go the way of the whig party, but without any lingering influence on whatever party takes its place. As an aside, Mr. Buchanan’s allusion to Palin as a “princess” is ludicrous. The woman is the archetypical, lying, self-serving dimwit of a pandering career politician who nicely represents the dimwitted rank and file of the GOP.
Naturally, she’ll readily convert to neoconservatism, which trluy typifies the GOP’s philosophical roots. There’s little discernible difference between today’s neocons and the radical republicans of the first generation of the GOP.
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So many words over someone who’s only duty over the next 4 years is breaking ties in the Senate while the country burns to the ground.
yours in Christ,
Isamu.
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McCain shoose Palin to try to distract from the issues he’d rather not talk about, like the
endless “war for democracy” that is bankrupting the country, and an economy that doesn’t work
for the white working folk, and his support of massive unrestrained immgration and the
“multiculturalism” that characterized so-called “democratic capitalism"…
Dragging out the culture war has been a Republican/Conservative strategy for years, and
Buchanan himself was once one of the main “useful idiots” they used for this purpose---
until he got uppity on things that the Republicans really stand for---which is giving a
little bit more to those that have the most already.
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Pat, very much agree with your account. She is no neocon at heart, but she will be forced to talk the positions. If a McCain-Palin ticket gets elected, her role will be mostly reduced to seremonial issues and visit to senate and a poster woman for the administration, the rose that hide the thorns of the neocons.
Here is Ron Paul’s account on Sarah Palin and international politics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p1GxkKBAC4
and here a congressional hearing on the Russia-Georgia situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg2uWsKK6w
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“Palin took and passed her oral exams.”
did anyone else see a double meaning here?
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Yeah, Gerald, whatever. I’m with you man. Hurray for Sarah and Todd. They could not supervise a teenager, but they will stand up to the neocons, the world’s most powerful clique. Cuz’ Pat says so.
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Evidently the neo-cons saw something they liked in her. Probably the way she fired her exx brother-in-laws boss.
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She may not be a neocon Pat but she’s not a paleo either and unfortunately there are no paleo adivors in the McCain campaign or on her staff to negate their influence. Given the fact she’s the VICE-presidential nominee, there’’s really not much she could do even if she didn’t buy their crapola, because she knows they hold her meal ticket to the big time. Without much a worldview to begin with, it’s not going to take much to get her to parrot what they want her to.
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With politicians you never know. Is she speaking her own mind or is she parroting the neo-con line?
I agree that she’s not a born-neo-con but she is being converted. The battle for her soul may not be over, but who’s fighting for the good side? She’s surrounded and brainwashed by evil 24/7. If nothing else she’ll realize that the neo-cons are too powerful within the formerly-Republican party and that there’s no point in fighting if she wants to survive.
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“Had she been a reader of TakiMag…”
“She may not be a neocon Pat but she’s not a paleo either…”
She’s not a Takimag paleo? Good. Maybe she won’t waste hour after hour debating which Christian denomination is the true Christian doctrine.
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Pat is right again. Sarah is the only one running that gives me much hope. She has a son in the army and I don’t for a minute believe that she is a warmonger. Let her be around the neocons for awhile and she will see them for what they are worth. They appointed her to the Alaska Oil and Gas comission, a fat job, she didn’t like what she saw and took down the head of the republican party, the attorney general and the republican govenor.
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I can’t decide if it’s Bill Kristol or Lawrence O’Donnell whose snuck in here emanating all this flack. But, it’s all one.
At least they’ll only have two months to try to buy, bull and bully her before she steps into power, assuming she and McCain win.
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Come on Mr. Buchanan, surely you jest....Expecting Governor Palin to unleash her imagined “small government” , so called “paleo” sentiments upon the election of the McCain ticket is the very definition of “Faith Based”. The woman is a talented politician and will pursue whatever course benefits this “talent”. It is painfully obvious that supporting a “small government” agenda when in Washington would be like advocating the joys of veganism during a Cargo Cult Cannibal Barbecue. The Neo-Cons would happily put her on the menu, claiming this chick tastes like Chicken.
At some point, we should all be able to discern that the hypocritical and patently treasonous GOP has not only squandered a brilliant opportunity, they’ve trashed the place and left it a reeking hulk, not unlike the blasted cadavers frequently seen along the Frat House Row of any Ivy League College Campus. These pious scions of Establishment Pretense are supposed to get their destructive compulsions out of their systems in college but this time, they’ve carried their joy in demolition to the Seat of the Republic and the property damage is across the board. This should not be surprising given the splenetic character of the motley cast of characters involved. The Dog has been pooched and we’re expected to think that somehow, it will not continue to happen. How charming.
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By the way, everyone knows this dirtbag brother-in-law trooper reportedly tazered his own step-son, right?
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I agree with xman. Clearly Sarah and Todd should not be electable because they can’t supervise a teenager. I guess that’s why the American people, in their collective wisdom, didn’t elect Al and Tipper. I mean look what they made of their son Al jr. Talk about lack of supervision!
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Regarding xman’s and Dorde’s remarks (the Palin’s daughter and Al Gore Jr.)....
They aren’t the only ones whose children have made mistakes. Look at some of the Bush and Kennedy families, one of McCain’s sons, one of the Biden’s sons, some of FDR’s children, Alice Roosevelt, Grant’s son, and many members of Congress’s children. Not to mention the offspring of “regular” parents who have tried their best to raise their children in a moral and supportive environment.
There comes a point when an adult (even a very young adult) has to take responsibility for their own failings. None of us know the inner workings of any family (other than our own). For the children of celebs, politicians and preachers; life in a
“fishbowl” can be difficult.
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I wish you were right, Pat. I love you man. Seriously. I agree with you about 95% of the time. But I have to say that I think the neo-cons have already gotten to her. I know it’s her job to support McCain now, but she doesn’t have to sound so militaristic when she’s talking about foreign affairs. I liked the old Palin a million times better than the McCain-Palin.
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“She’s going places, and it’s worth going there with her.”
No parasite nesting deep in the rotting curls of an infected intestine could’ve put it better.
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As a complete stooge of the neocons, John McCain would not have chosen Palin if he doubted her eagerness to pursue the war agenda of the radical-right Israeli militarists. “Protecting” Israel will bankrupt the US, and ironically only makes Israel’s long-term stability more doubtful.
Georgia started the war with Russia. I recommend Spiegel (http://www.spiegel.de) for excellent coverage of this issue.
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I agree with Mr. Buchanan.
It is time to understand that the interests of the USA may (and do)correlate with, but they are not 100% identical to, the intersts of Israel. I personally wish israelis the best, but my primary concern is well-being of the USA, of which I am proud citizen.
It is not a matter of poor understanding. Mass media like to present it in a way, that if only we were listening to their clear explanations, we would understand that our interests must be identical to the interests of israelis.
I do respect the interests of israelis, but:
We definitely have our own interests: e.g. to live in a country with limited immigration, in a country with Protestant work etics (disclosure: I myself am an atheist), in a country with common language (English) and culture.
Bravo, Mr. Buchanan !
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Palin’s “dispensationalist” worldview puts her in philosophical lockstep with a huge part of the neocon programme anyway. And if you can’t control a teenager in Wasilla, well, forget about it!
Then there is the “flip-flopping” over “The Bridge to Nowhere”, the tens of millions of federal monies she grabbed while Mayor for such necessities as an indoor ice rink (Typical Ice Hockey Mom) in Alaska, the newly discovered “Road To Nowhere” that ends at the non-existent “Bridge to Nowhere”, ad on infinitum.
She collects “earmarks” like earrings. And speaking of her ears, there’s just not much between them. Pretty, manipulative, and power-hungry - the perfect modern woman. She’s got that Jezebel Spirit totally incorporated.
She was “Chosen” to bring the nutty evangelicals back into the fold, period, She is being used as a “Stalking Horse” (Hunters out there know of what I speak) to keep all eyes on her while the predator hides behind her charming cover. After all, here we are, talking about her while Rome is burning.
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So if a teenager decides to disrespect a parents wishes the parent is unqualified to do an important job and is somehow a failure as a parent or person? Do I understand you xman? I bet all of your kids are just the most upright citizens on the planet or, you’re just a childless, witless, loudmouth. Can a comment be flagged on the basis of stupidity? If so check out the “xman”.
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As Condor said, “Palin’s “dispensationalist” worldview puts her in philosophical lockstep with a huge part of the neocon programme anyway.” I would add, her “radical” dispensationalist world view, which is the other half of the Republican party’s revolutionary radicalism. Murray Rothbard had an excellent chapter in “Requiem for Marx,” showing the roots of leftism and Marxism in the radicalism of 16th century Anabaptism and some of the extremely radical sects that made up that movement. That persuasion is evident in the gnosticism of evangelicals like Palin. Try as I might, I concede I don’t know the mind of God. Palin believes she does. The neocons did not have to “brainwash” Palin; as a Governor flying the Israeli flag in the Alaskan Governor’s office, it is apparent that, at most, only a “light rinse,” to quote Eugene McCarthy, was necessary.
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Regarding Israel’s effort to obtain “bunker-buster” munitions from the US, I read recently Israel is on the way toward buying 1000 of them from this country. Any corroboration of this would be welcome.
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You see now? Even Buchanan has changed his tune. How long did that take?
When will you paleos get this through your thick skulls: the current political system in the Eurosphere is not salvagable.
Cart out as many “good Christians” as you want and in the final analysis all you will find is RACE TRAITORS AND SYSTEM HACKS!
What is a race traitor? Any White person, who by intention or in effect, denies to us the necessary means to assure our genetic continuitity.
When will the lemmings ever learn.
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“Sarah and Todd ain’t got no soul. They are a couple of ignorant hicks thrown into the limelight. “
Oh, well.. thanks for expressing your opinion yet again. The problem with these angry, anonymous personal attacks is that those reading them have to take your word for it that you’re in a position to criticize anyone and that you’re not just some fat, angry 12 year old kid, which is what your posts tend to suggest. Isn’t it time we saw a personal website? If famous White-American actors like Lindsay Lohan and Matt Damon don’t feel the need to hide their opinions behind pseudonyms, why should you?
“They could not supervise a teenager..”
A teenager who is a “whore” according to “xman”, whose judgement I have no doubt is rooted deeply in Christian teaching and not in any way related to the fact that he’s a troll. The way I see it, though, if a person eats half a bag of chips while they are shopping at the grocery store and then pays for it at the checkout aisle, where is the problem?
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I thought Palin had left her Pentecostal congregation several years back and was attending a non-denominational church. I don’t actually care (not enough to read Palin’s wikipedia entry) but was just wondering whether the facts in my head were straight and if the people arguing doctrine here had taken them into consideration. Attending a Pentecostal church doesn’t necessarily mean a person is in lockstep with the doctrine anymore than attending Saturday mass means that someone is an expert on Aquinas.
Personally, despite the above, I don’t care who wins. I campaigned for Ron Paul and think that the difference between McCain and Obama is all of the difference between hanging yourself or shooting yourself in the head. I’ll be voting for McCain anyway for the simple reason that it is always funnier to watch the Democrats lose. They take the thing more seriously and are genuinely in love with their candidate this year, whereas no Republican will really care if McCain loses.
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Federal Farmer, what are you talking about? I see the anti-dispensationalist obsessives are out in force again. It is extremely problematic to presume a Divine role for the US in prophesy, but it is not inherently presuming that one knows the mind of God to try to interpret scriptural prophesy. One either does it correctly or incorrectly.
Whatever evangelicals may be, they are not “Gnostic” in any substantial sense. There may be traces of Gnosticism in certain pietistic formulations of the strict dichotomization of the secular from the sacred, but I don’t think that is what is being referred to here. Those folks eschew political involvement.
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I think Palin has said she left the AoG church for the Bible church because of the kids’ programs. Not because of a theological change of heart. (It would not surprise me if political considerations contributed also, but that would be speculation.) But on the matters being discussed here, the AoG and your average non-denominational Bible Church would be similar. Most Bible Churches are not Charismatic or Pentecostal with regard to the sign gifts, however.
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“I think Palin has said she left the AoG church for the Bible church because of the kids’ programs. Not because of a theological change of heart.” - Red Phillips
That’s great. What does Sarah (our last best hope - LOL!) believe as relates to Biblical esoterica?
What utter frivolity!
Let us fiddle while the White race and all it’s works burns to ashes.
Who, but fools and conscious traitors can have any loyal to a system and a political class which has utterly abandoned our people?
Wake up.
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Destroy her? The problem here is that from the second she started she’d signed a devil’s bargain. Bush was not an innocent conservative who was swindled. He personally made every choice to deceive, break the law and spit on the constitution. She’s the same thing.
The problem is the when conservatives support a candidate based on pet social issues instead of the far more important foreign policy issues that represent a clear and present danger to liberty. Supporting Palin/McCain is a miserable failure on the part of any conservative to face REALITY.
This was clear the second she was announced as the VP candidate.
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I won’t attempt to categorize Ms Palin’s religious belief but here’s an interesting article on her faith, posted on Drudge Report today:religihttp://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html. Interesting YouTube clip also. The summary of it is: “The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.”
There’s nothing I can add to that. Is that dispensationalism?
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“The problem is the when conservatives support a candidate based on pet social issues instead of the far more important foreign policy issues that represent a clear and present danger to liberty. Supporting Palin/McCain is a miserable failure on the part of any conservative to face REALITY.”
I agree. Very well stated.
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Anyone else seen this?
http://www.rjchq.org/Roots/SiteImages/Obama-Buchanan-ad.pdf
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Federal Farmer, dispensationalism is a particular interpretive scheme that sees Israel as separate from the Church. Therefore, prophesies made to Israel in the past but not yet fulfilled, remained to be fulfilled in the future. They did not pass away with Israel’s rejection of Christ. They did not get usurped by the Church. They did not get spiritualized, etc. There is more to it than that, but that is how it relates to modern Israel.
Pentacostalism is a totally separate issue. Pentecostals believe the sign gifts spoken about in the New Testament are still valid today, and in fact are normative. Most Pentecostals are dispensationalists, but that is largely incidental.
Most evangelicals do not believe that the sign gifts are valid today or at least they are not normative. Pentecostals have traditionally been held at arms length by most evangelicals.
I am not a dispensationalist, but most of my fellow Baptists are. The issue is way too casually tossed around.
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Xman, In an attmept to try and engage you in a substantive manner:
Who and/or what are you for? You don’t like McCain and despise Palin?
Assuming Obama/Biden are your ticket, what are the reasons for your decision?
If not them, who? Why?
What are the philosophical or ideological underpinnings of your politcal positions?
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American politics is nothing but an undignified procession of corrupt Paradegoyim.
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There goes Buchanan again, revising history as it happens. In seizing on Palin’s use of the word “imminent,” he assumes she meant this as a necessary criterion. More likely, she was just trying to play it safe in her ignorance. Same old spin from you, Pat. I’m not buying it.
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There is no doubt that Palin is being used by McCain to
1-Scarf up the female voters who just want a woman, any woman.
2-Is more interesting than himself
3-Appeals to the same people who fell for Bush’s “God appointed me” stuff.
4-She has the keys to oil and gas in AK.
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The posters need to realize the alternative is the most left wing senator who would be a complete disaster.If we wake up in January with BHO as president some of the blame will fall on those who are unwilling to accept the lesser of two evils.I mean BO is really bad.Multicuturalism run wild.Michelle Obama as First Lady--can you imagine the message this sends.I detest the neo-cons--but I detest this arrogant, ultra-liberal mulatto much more.
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