Well put, Mr. Richert.  Too true and too sad.  America was called to repentance and responded with even greater arrogance and violence.  The 9/11 cult has now become an essential part of the broader cult of American militarist nationalism, which merges easily with the globalism of the elitists.  America is entitled to rule the world because it is so virtuous and its values so superior.  Yeah, right.

It can’t be said enough:

1. They were over here because we were OVER THERE, to quote the song. 

2. Woodrow Wilson was our worst president.

Also: Had the Central Powers won in 1918, none of this mess would be happening—this mess just another battle field of that war, a war that didn’t end.

Indeed, pride goes before the fall, and we were too
proud, and too narrowly focused on Communism to see
what we were doing while trying to combat it.

It is fair to blame Carter for empowering bin Laden,
but Carter was not the first, nor the last to give
weapons to the wrong people because they were
anti-communist. There is a story to be told of the
cooperation of the CIA with drug lords because they
were allied against Marxist guerrillas. And the support
that was given to military dictatorships in Latin
America, to the point of that bitch Kirkpatrick acting
as apologist for Videla and co. has yet to be paid for.

Pray that that price is not that high as 9/11.

Yes, Sid, Wilson was our worst President. It riles me that
some commentators will comapre him to Bismarck, to
praise Wilson for his idealism and to condemn Bismarck’s
narrow views. But Bismarck did get peace in Europe for
seventy years, and Wilson set the stage for World War
II, and this one had to be fought, because it involved
cleaning up the mess we had created (a sense of
responsibility is a bitch).

I can’t wait till this day is over.  regardless of your view of our foreign policy, it was humiliating.  It was a defeat.  despite all our billions a bunch of guys with a plan that we shuld have seen any number of ways made us look like fools.

There was an excellent article in American Conservative
Magazine a few years ago, that pointed out the prior
to the neo-conservative takeover of US foreign policy,
the tradition goals of the US were threefold:
1) Protect Israel--justified by the holocaust;
2) Assure there is no disruption in the oil supply to
the United States (dependent on foreign oil since 1970’s)
and
3) To Keep Europe---especially Russia---OUT (see point2)

Times have changed. First Israel can take care of
herself---and even it couldn’t, the reality of Israel’s
persecution of the Palestinans is so immoral, that it
overrides the holocaust argument on it’s behalf. 

Secondly, a military occupation isn’t necessary to
either keep Europe out, or keep the oil pipelines
flowing. The Arabs have nothing with which to sustain
their people, except selling OIL. It is in their own
self interest to sell the oil to us.

Third, the US shouldn’t be dependent on Mideast OIL
in the first place. Back 25 years ago, the US should have been pursuing
alternatives to oil, and building an interstate
railroad system, and massive public transportation, instead
of subsidizing suburbanization and sprawl and highway
building. For what we are spending on the OCCUPATION
of Iraq, the US government could have had a “Put a Man on the Moom”
technological project to fund basic alternative energy
technology---to be turned over to private enterprise to
commercialize.

Instead, the Conservative “Movement” has been crippled
by it’s idiotic “libertarian” or “laissez faire” idiocy
that says the “free market” (actually no such thing)
solves all the problems---ie continue to let the “
OIL industry run amuck. Plus putting up with the
international finance capitalists who fund the Israel
Lobby, whose “Gulden” has purchased the US congress, and
funded the “neo-conserative” triumph takeover of
American political mainstream.

It’s another of the idoicies of “libertarian” utopianism
is that you can have free flow of capital OUT of the
USA, and have peace. Where the dollars go, the soldiers
always follow.

Death to “Fusionism”..the rot in Conservative Movement
tjat was supposed to sustain the American Republic.

Not pride, not hubris, but LAWLESSNESS.
The Constitution could have easily protected us
from this latest debacle had we only the will to
wield it.
The Spoilers are in power and they rule with the
caprice of a Greek God. Without any legal restraint
who knows what they will do next?
America is armed to the teeth, the population
has become completely domesticated, all power has
been placed into a small fraternity of selfserving
sociopaths and there is NO calvary to the rescue.

Scott I agree that the event of 9/11 will certainly be remembered longer
than John F. Kennedy’s assasination but would 9/11 have happened if
John F. Kennedy’s assasination had not happened?  He was our last president
with a pro Arab foreign policy.  The day after he died our foreign policy
regarding the Arabs did and about face in favor of Israel that has never
changed since, or as Michael Collins Piper in his book Final Judgement put
it; ..the messiah came for Israel… The messiah being Lyndon Johnson.

I, for one, do not believe that 9/11 really changed much of anything.  What it did really show us is that failing to have a sane immigration policy and the effective control of a nation’s borders is suicidal.  In reality, the interventionists are those people deluded enough to think that having two oceans separating this country from those we are bombing and occupying is enough to shield the homeland from any bad repercussions.  Yes, the interventionists are the real isolationists.  Actions do indeed have consequences, and being a world class bully is only going to encourage those bullied into figuring out how to effectively fight back.  Looking carefully at the events of 9/11 what we see is a bunch of low tech illegal immigrants effectively using air power against the financial and military assets of the American Empire.  Had that third airliner not been shot down over Pennsylvania, a major political asset would also have been hit.  The strengths of the Empire were effectively used against it.  In a strange sense, the World Trade Center destruction reminds me of the Battle of the Little Big Horn.  In both cases, a massive defeat, following on acts of hubris is twisted and spun into a sort of victory. The blowback effects of imperial attacks on other countries, and the incredible incompetence of NORAD in the face of a novel air assault are all ignored as those buildings collapsed into rubble.

911 was a provocation by Bin Ladin to do exactly what
President George W. “Israel First” Bush did...fly
off the handle, and engage significant percentage of
US military in a quaqmire in the Mideast.

Bin Ladin got a lot more for his effort then he ever
dreamed...he expected a military retaliation, but
what he got was his dream come true...the US occupation
of the Mideast!

Let’s make sure we understand what 911 was all about.

Joe P,

I think Bush and Bin Laden both got what they wanted in the middle east.
A total and constant state of unrest, killing, and violence.  It is good
for business for both their sides in this.  Both of them are ideologues
with little care for their people as long as their violent agendas are
advanced.  They need each other to keep recruitment up.  That is why we
have been so successfull in not catching Bin Laden.