Austin Bramwell

Where the WASPs Aren’t

Posted by Austin Bramwell on September 23, 2008

Gossip Girl

The TV show Gossip Girl, now in its second season, chronicles the
“scandalous lives of Manhattan’s elite"—"elite" meaning private school kids and their families.  Replete with iphone-toting teenagers, haute couture and on-location filming, the show pretends to at least a surface verisimilitude. When it comes to underlying sociological realities, however, it offers nothing but the most fatuous distortions.

For example:

• In Gossip Girl, the obligatory fish-out-of-water character lives in a capacious Williamsburg loft with sliding industrial doors and exposed brick.  From this, we’re supposed to infer that his family not only has less money but that they’re more authentic and less status-driven that the denizens of the Upper East Side. In reality, many New Yorkers would cut out their own eyeballs to get a big Williamsburg loft. Here are some of the prices. Further, as status symbol, a Williamsburg loft arguably trumps a Park Avenue co-op. Williamsburg is where the cool white people live; only sell-outs live on the Upper East Side.

• In Gossip Girl, kids get into elite colleges by not-so-deftly signaling their membership in the good old boys network. One applicant even says to an interviewer, “Why should I get into Dartmouth? Because I’m a [impressive family name].” In reality, name-dropping in an interview is probably the one thing (other than telling a racist joke) an applicant could do to ensure that he doesn’t get admitted. Further, as colleges like to trumpet the “diversity” of their student body, an Hindu or an Eskimo has a better chance into college than a preppy with an ancient pedigree. Finally, colleges compete for do-gooders with exceptional brains. The world of Gossip Girl, where slackers and nincompoops get in through family connections, simply doesn’t exist.

• In Gossip Girl, rich kids all have names like Waldorf, Archibald, Bass and van der Woodsen. (In keeping with media’s loathing of the Texas Bass family, the villain is named “Chuck Bass.") In reality, however, the families of the old Protestant Establishment make up only a minority of New York’s wealthy elite. They haven’t entirely disappeared; they still host their debutantes balls, the Forbes family still keeps the Social Register afloat, and a handful of institutions (mostly hidden from public view) are still controlled by WASPs. Some WASPs even have substantial fortunes. (Those fortunes, however, are rarely very old; no Knickerbocker family like “van der Woodsen” can afford New York’s social whirl.) But WASPs as a whole just don’t have the numbers, much less the will, to dominate New York society. As Louis Auchincloss gently puts it, they have “lost their monopoly.”

Instead, perhaps a plurality of the rich private school kids in Manhattan—even at historically Protestant schools—are Jewish. The Jewish Daily Forward goes so far as to report that Trinity and Dalton, two of the top private schools in New York, are “largely Jewish.” An entire media industry follows the lavish bar mitzvahs of Manhattan private school kids. The closest real-world model for the high school in Gossip Girl, The Dalton School, has historically been the most recherché school for Jewish New Yorkers. (Most WASPs prefer to send their children to the old single-sex grammar schools.) Tellingly, the media now treat Dalton as the most posh school in Manhattan.

In Gossip Girl, however, Jewish kids don’t even exist, much less predominate. Everything about Gossip Girl is modern, from the drugs to the iphones, except for the sociological background, which the writers may as well have lifted out of the Gilded Age.

• It almost goes without saying that Gossip Girls gets nothing right about WASPs. WASPs don’t flaunt their wealth; on the contrary, they cultivate their shabbiness, the better to signal to the world that they don’t need money (which they probably don’t have anyway) in order to rank socially.  To demonstrate your WASP bona fides, you drive a 1980s Buick station wagon, not a Rolls Royce.

In fairness, in mischaracterizing America’s upper class, Gossip Girl is merely following pop culture convention. Virtually every Hollywood movie and TV show, from Scent of a Woman to Family Guy, assumes that a WASP episcopacy that collapsed two generations ago still controls this country’s wealth and power. (Indeed, it is hard to think of any pop culture product that doesn’t associate wealth with WASP privilege.) I’m told even told that “chic lit” novels routinely assume that all Upper East Side socialites hail from patrician WASP families and despise anyone who doesn’t. The authors of these novels then do book signings on the Upper East Side in front of audiences that know full well that the novels bear no resemblance to the world they actually live in. 

In the end, Gossip Girl is an example of market failure. The public probably really would like to know how the rich live. WASPs, however, unlike others wealthy groups, have not formed a pressure group to punish studios that portray them unfavorably. (WASPs instead prefer to express themselves politically through benign environmental causes, with perhaps a little feminism mixed in.) Consequently, pop culture purveyors have zero tolerance for unflattering depictions of other groups, but give writers absolute license to defame WASPs.

Don’t pity the WASPs, who surely deserve their fate; pity instead the audiences who have to suffer though one hackneyed treatment of the upper class after another. Great fame and fortune awaits anyone who somehow manages to overcome this market failure. When he does, I might actually tune in and watch.


Comments

Many if not most television shows from the beginning in the 50’s to today are nothing more than Jews making fun of or trashing non-jews. Every thing from All in the Family to The Simpsons, and from Green Acres to My Name is Earl is nothing more than fitting an image of non-Jewish white people (espcially Protestants) into a neat box where they are to be ridiculed and reviled. Non-WASP characters in all of these shows range from sympathetic to pillars for the WASP to look up to. It doesn’t matter what station the WASPs in these show fall into, rich and poor alike are are equally ridiculed.

Well… I mean… nobody outside of New York knows or cares about the intricacies of the real estate market and social castes there. Williamsburg? Lofts? ...Schmofts. This show’s appeal is simple: assimilative eye candy. “Gossip Girl,” like all entertainment media, is an invention of a mostly Jewish purview intended to sell a fantasy - in this case, the ...fantasy of being WASP. That’s what our increasingly diversified population wants more than anything else. Look at the sales floor of any Abercrombie and Fitch outlet. WASPs among the clientele? Find one! Asian, hispanic, black or Sri Lankan… but very, very few WASPs. Nevertheless, it’s the image of WASPdom that’s so attractive. It’s the heft. It’s the cachet of the ethnic group most identified with the overwhelming - and relatively sudden - success of this country. American Jews plumb this almost-universal WASP yearning so well because they themselves have been afflicted with it for so long. Show me anything tradionally Judaic in something called “The Dalton School”.

TV has gotten so bad that I considered calling the cable company to complain that even though I was stealing their product I was still completely unsatisfied.

“Gossip Girl” is produced by Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage...("Savage" is also used by the radio personality Michael Weiner)and produced by Bob Levy,Leslie Morgenstein and John Stephens.

Nice piece, Austin.

“The world of Gossip Girl, where slackers and nincompoops get in through family connections, simply doesn’t exist.”

yes it does. lineages are more likely to donate. I know people at Duke, Harvard and Brown who are not better students than most of the 80 percent of applicants who got rejected from those schools.

If you can stomach pursuing this trope into film history, I strongly recommend Otto Preminger’s “The Cardinal” (1963) and the counterculture exploitation film “Joe” (1970) as sterling examples.  The latter is so hamfisted in its portrayal of the working class that it is almost unbelievable to me that anyone ever took it seriously.

They lost me at “van der Woodsen.” How illiterate is that mishmosh?

The real Dutch name would be—what?—van Houten? van den Bos?

“The world of Gossip Girl, where slackers and nincompoops get in through
family connections, simply doesn’t exist.”

I suspect those slackers and nincompoops learn what line to peddle at interviews to
make themselves sound more attractive to major universities.  Knowing how to present
oneself doesn’t hurt, and neither does having relatives make large contributions.

If the Jews made TV shows about the REAL New York City elite, they would be indicting their own people.  Plus it would be excruciatingly boring; is it anti-Semitic to note that Jews just aren’t interesting people?

Also, if Joe Sixpack knew that the richest and most powerful of the “rich and powerful” (read: $700 billion “bailout” recipients) were “Christ-hating” Jews, there would be Hell on Earth - directed towards the Jews themselves.

So Jews go on making TV shows and movies, pretending like the only difference between now and “then” (pick your favorite “golden era") is that today we’re all enlightened multiracialists and multiculturalists, which I suppose, collectively, “we” are.

I’m not accusing the Jews, collectively, of anything particularly wrong (sinful, yes), but I am admonishing “the gentiles” for getting caught up in their fantasy land (both on TV and in real life).  Hard work puts food on the table, not refinancing the mortgage on the house that, technically, the bank, not you, own.

Isn’t Ralph Lauren Jewish?  And hasn’t he been making big buck$ from recycling fashions found in Brooks Bros. catalogues from before Hitler’s Folly?  It’s the Gatsby Look, folks, and it sells like mad.

Enough about the Jews already. Everyone knows the Irish run New York.

I don’t watch Gossip Girls, but I know of some people who do.  There’s a blogger here who often writes about it:

http://wasp101.blogspot.com

It’s a show that portrays a WASP fantasy, which is appealing to a lot of Americans, especially younfer Americans.  Witness the popularity of clothing brands such as A&F;, Lacoste, and Hollister. Not to mention, J.Press, Polo, and Brooks Brothers. However, I think promoting the myth of WASP dominance is in the Jews’ interest.  If people discovered and acted upon the reality of Jewish dominance, Jews believe, Jews would be in trouble.  So it’s safer the hold up the WASP as bogeyman.

“Enough about the Jews already. Everyone knows the Irish run New York.”

I have a good friend whose family has apparently been in and around New York City for centuries- they came over before the Revolution, and intermarried with some of the early Dutch settler families.

Of course, you’d never suspect that upon meeting him or his immediate family- 3 out of 4 of his grandparents were Irish immigrants, and he his face looks like that of someone who just got off the boat from County Kerry.

Posted by Dano on Sep 23, 2008.

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Sounds like a poor recycling of “The Preppy Handbook.” But for those curious for the real deal, see Whit Stillman’s “Metropolitain.” Meanwhile, true WASPs follow the example of George Hobart Doane and increasingly become Traditional Catholics, like The Rev. George W. Rutler: W.A.S.C.s. Or to throw in more consenantents, W.A.S.T.C.s.

I guess the fantasy is WASP style with Jewish money.

Never mind Jews took over Manhattan 100 years ago, no one wants to watch a sitcom of them, not even the Jews themselves.

We all want to see boozing, bad-ass WASPs with money running wild. The statuesque blondes, their woman-a-night brothers who pass for the Aryan superman, all that good stuff.

Posted by HCL on Sep 24, 2008.

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HCL:
“Never mind Jews took over Manhattan 100 years ago, no one wants to watch a sitcom of them, not even the Jews themselves.

The one US sitcom that ever really offended me was Seinfeld, where WASP women were treated as disposable bags of meat.

Most US sitcoms take the more passive-aggressive approach of making the WASP male characters impotent, like Chandler in ‘Friends’ or, more overtly, the Kyle MacLachlan character in Sex and the City (so his WASP wife leaves him for the virile Jewish lawyer).

I also get the impression, contrary to some posters above, that up until the ‘60s US sitcoms & drama generally showed a positive portrayal of WASPs and the WASP nuclear family, especially heartland WASPs (Leave it to Beaver, Mayberry PD etc).

Nowadays we have stuff like ‘Law & Order’, where the Great WASP Beast is slain every week, over and over again, in a manner renminiscent of pagan ritual. Here it’s the always rich, always ‘old money’ white perpetrator, imprisoned by the heroic crusading non-WASP prosecutors (ironically Sam Neill is the very model of a Scots-WASP, playing an Irish-American ADA).

There’s something quasi-religious about it.  I think it’s fascinating that Jewish New York writers seem to feel the need to do this, to eternally re-enact their grandfathers’ victories over the WASP establishment on TV, always dressed up in modern clothing. 

I suppose there’s a parrallel with the popularity of Cowboy & Indian films, up until the ‘50s, ever re-enacting America’ victory over a long-dead enemy.  In Britain for a long time we did the same with World War 2.  The obvious difference though is that the primary market for these ritualised TV tales of Victory-over-the-WASP… is WASPs.

errrr...Sam Neill is a graduate of Groton. You can’t get preppier than that.

sorry, ment to say Sam Neill is actually Sam Waterson, and he went to Groton.

The “tongue-in-cheek” comment that the Irish run NYC brings to mind the old adage about Washington DC:

The Jews own it, the Irish run it, the Negroes enjoy it, and the Protestants pay for it!

Cheers.

If you want to watch a show that reflects multicultural reality, then watch “The Shield” where the criminals are almost always men of darker complexion...except, of course, for the deranged, intellectual, eat-your-neighbor criminals.

A great comment by Simon Newman.

Posted by Sage on Sep 24, 2008.

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James N Ward:

“sorry, ment to say Sam Neill is actually Sam Waterson, and he went to Groton. “

*d’oh* - the dangers of commenting without fact-checking!

Thanks James - Neill is an Irish name, and Sam Waterson (a Scots name) is a first-generation pure-Scots immigrant, so I should have known better.  My point was just that, as an Ulster Scot myself, to me Sam Waterson’s physiology is that of a classic Scotsman and he looks and acts nothing like any Irish Catholic New Yorker I’ve ever seen.  That he’s ‘preppy’ doesn’t undermine my point.

“First generation” - Waterson’s parents are both Scottish, they immigrated together from Scotland.  By his looks I’d guess east-coast, maybe Aberdeenshire.

From Wikipedia:

“Waterston, one of four siblings, was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts. His mother, Alice Tucker (née Atkinson), was an American Mayflower descendant and worked as a landscape painter, and his father, George Chychele Waterston, was an immigrant from Leith, Scotland and a semanticist and language teacher.[1][2] Waterston attended both the Brooks School, a boarding school in North Andover, Massachusetts, and the Groton School. He entered Yale University on a scholarship in 1958 and graduated with a BA in 1962.”

Oh well, half right.

I guess I really should do that fact-checking before posting…

I tried to watch the show for the eye candy, but couldn’t tolerate it after a couple of minutes. Hollywood knows what sells around the world, and it isn’t multiculti stuff but Baywatch aesthetics.

Is the author really saying that if someone with a last name like Rockefeller, Forbes, Gates, Rothshild applies to some school, that in itself won’t be enough? Or that WASPs don’t name-drop? Please, WASPs even created a new name for this corruption: “networking.”

I actually appreciate seeing wealthy WASPs portrayed at all on TV. For a while it seemed that they would be extinct on TV first before going exctinct in reality and would occupy exclusively that graveyard of TV productions that is reality TV. Even when it’s often in the roles of the villains. Since the days when Hollywood started portraying corporations or government or a conspiracy of both as the evil guys, it has always been rich old male WASPs as the villains. Notice Prison Break’s “the company”, Fringe’s “the pattern/maximum dynamics” etc. The beauty of it all is that how Hollywood portrays people says so much more about the people creating this stuff than about those they are trying to portray.

As the family of one of those ‘faded elite’ I would like to add a few thoughts:
a. there is little or no solidarity or identity among WASPs anymore - the networks of old families and communication simply do not exist.
b. Jews know FULL WELL they are the dominate elite now, and they also had a sense they were wresting power from WASPs and guilt ridden wasps didn’t seem to be a aware of it. You can often see manifestations of when Jews say the wasps ‘gave up without firing a shot’ - well we didn’t know we were in a war -we thought the jews were really upset about discrimination - it turns out they were upset about Jewish discrimination - they had and have no problem discriminating against us.

I openly admit I have bitterness against the new jewish elite not because they dominate but because they NEVER had any intention of being fair -it was all thinly vieled ethnic self interest. (and I emphasis my bitterness is towards the elite not ‘the jews’

“The world of Gossip Girl , where nincompoops and slackers get in through family connections, simply doesn’t exist”.

Oh really .....so , I suppose the leering berserker in the White House got there on his honed grasp of the language and sturdy work ethic. After all, he’s the “First MBA President” and golly, those MBA’s sure have been a powerful force of egalitarianism in the lapsed Republic. Exactly why are we dissecting such a batch of piffle as “Gossip Girl”? This aint no slow news year.

Question:
the new elite and new system still has to ‘pretend’ the old establishment exists. Why? And once people find out who really runs the prep schools, Ivy Leagues and most elite institutions in NYC if not a large part of the US and just how much their ethics have changed, what are the implications? For example, does our support of Israel take on a whole new light? Or our support of the Oligarchs and hostility towards Russia? What about the hostility towards Christmas ornaments? All the sudden it looks a lot more hatred than fairness.

Van Buskirk:
“I openly admit I have bitterness against the new jewish elite not because they dominate but because they NEVER had any intention of being fair -it was all thinly vieled ethnic self interest.”

This made me smile.  :)

Being from Northern Ireland myself, the idea that ethnic groups don’t or shouldn’t struggle for dominance of a polity always seemed odd to me.  I guess the English invented the idea - when they were so dominant it seemed they could never be challenged.

sic transit gloria Angli

Van Buskirk:
“Jews know FULL WELL they are the dominate elite now”

They seem nervous about it though.  The one US show I see regularly is The Daily Show, so by now I’ve seen dozens of hours of Jon Stewart sitting talking behind that desk, interviewing Bill Kristol, and so on.  One can’t help but notice a lot about what Stewart seems to think of himself, his interviewees, his place in the world, and so on.  I don’t know exactly how typical he is of the New York Jewish media elite, but from how he’s deferred to I’m guessing he’s not much of an outlier.  The main impression I get is nervousness, a kind of “OK, we’re on top NOW, but if THEY ever realise it, who knows what could happen...”

Where the New York WASP elite seems to have been excessively complacent, the New York Jewish elite seems excessively insecure.  And their fear is not overtly directed towards any rising group that might one day replace them, but towards the remaining WASPs and especially the non-elite WASP heartlands of ‘flyover country’.

“but towards the remaining WASPs and especially the non-elite WASP heartlands of ‘flyover country’. “

Simon, that is why they are so desperate to displace them, even with Muslims chanting ‘death to Israel’.  But their neurotic paranoid behavior often becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.  The much used analogy: a guy who walks into a bar and starts slugging everyone because he thinks they’re going to hit him. Then when he’s tossed out its ‘anti semitism’.

I’m guessing 1/4 of John “Stewart’s” audience has no clue he is Jewish or that his name is John Stuart Liebowitz. Never underestimate the public’s wits.

“...So his WASP wife leaves him for the virile Jewish lawyer.”

Although such presumption is tacky, tacky, tacky - let me try to help the struggling wannabe’s: Ethnocentric self-aggrandizement has all the class of Royall Muske.

I recently did a Google search (a bit lame, but bear with me) for “English American society” and found nothing but garbage - no actual societies.  Then I tried substituting in a variety of other nationalities/ethnicities for “English,” and in each case found actual societies.  This included Scottish, Welsh, Jewish, etc.  There are, of course, historical reasons for this, but it still doesn’t seem right.

Recently I looked at a map of the world.  It identified Scotland and Wales by name, but not England.  What is going on here?

Posted by Hal K on Sep 24, 2008.

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San Fernando Curt:
“Ethnocentric self-aggrandizement has all the class of Royall Muske.”

That’s what the New York WASPs thought, right? 

My people make no claim to be classy.  They march every 12th July celebrating a victory over their ethnic rivals from 318 years ago.

And they’re still around.

Hal K:
“Recently I looked at a map of the world.  It identified Scotland and Wales by name, but not England.  What is going on here?”

Well the EU Regionalisation plan calls for Britain to be divided into official EU Regions.  Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, South-East, Yorkshire & Humberside, that kind of thing.  No England, obviously.  I don’t know if it’s a deliberate anti-English plot, that certainly seems possible.  The English concept of rights threatens the rule of their beloved tyranny.

Yes, it took 100 years but the Jewish Supremacists who own and control the USA are CLEARLY ruling America now and turning it into a police state.

The only people who haven’t figured it out yet are the brain dead.

Posted by Bob on Sep 24, 2008.

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Bob, I don’t know that I’d phrase it that dramatically - they are clearly the dominate ethnic group in New York and have considerable, disproportionate influence in DC and, imhop, most importantly, in popular culture.

I will say, in my own waspy way, they have utterly failed as custodians and stewards (considering their long brutal history in East europe as buergermeisters , tax collectors and agents of oppressive regimes this should come as no surprise). It think this is deeply culturally ingrained - maybe even genetically- but the high mistrust and hostility towards ‘other’ particular the Christian west, makes them utterly unfit for leadership and trust as a group - individuals are another matter.

ACRONYM ENVY

One of the things we experience on the West Coast is some resentment in Jewish circles about the fact that only the Anglo-Saxons are allowed an acronym.  Jews are insisting that WEJ is the correct acronym for white Jews when WASP is used, simply for equity.

WEJ as we all know stands for White European Jew and is pronounced “wedge” in the same manner that WASP is pronounced as the name of an insect.

It is to be much regretted that Austin Bramwell ignored this element of courtesy and we have to ask ourselves if he might be motivated by a little bias against Jews.

Posted by Sally on Sep 24, 2008.

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Hmmm.

At the risk of Simon Newman biting my head off again: This sounds like one o’ them “wedge issues”.

Gossip Girl is an hour long rap video. Pure id bait.

Interesting post!  I’m new here, so I was amused but puzzled by some of the exceptionally silly crypto- (and not-so-crypto-)anti-Semitic comments above.  But I think I figured it out! 

I’m pretty sure the people making these comments are themselves Jews, trying to discredit WASPs by portraying them as anti-Semitic to the other readers, who are also Jews.

The Jews posting the faux-anti-Semitic comments are, of course, doing it out of a psychological need to simultaneously co-opt and destroy the power that they feel has traditionally been in the hands of mainline Protestant blog commenters.

And the Jew readers of the blog are here as a result of an assimilation neurosis that makes them want to be like WASPs, which they believe entails reading anti-Semitic comments left by “fellow WASPs.”

So, as a Jew myself, I’d just like to say, to commenters and lurkers alike, “Hi guys!  See you at the next world domination meeting!”

Posted by JS on Sep 24, 2008.

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I think the pattern for Jews in relation to the Wasp governing class is ape, rape and escape. First they ape the Wasps; then they financially, politically and culturally rape them; then they escape them by surpassing them.

We now live in a very dynamic period in which different Jews are at each stage of the ape, rape and escape process.

Rich people don’t get into prep schools through family connections or their wealth?  While this might be true for the Ivies and professional schools, the fact that people like Ivanka Trump, Lydia Shaw, and Paris Hilton get modeling jobs and posh jobs at fashion magazines, entertainment companies, etc. flies in the face of that assertion.

Granted, Amanda Hearst is pretty hot, and I don’t mind at all her getting modeling jobs, but a lot of them wouldn’t be able to get those jobs if they didn’t have pedigree or moolah. 

Maybe WASPs with more gravitas, like a certain Mr. Bramwell, resent this aspect of the upper class which he repudiates to pursue the more traditional career of legal “patrician”?

You guys do know that the characters of Gossip Girl were not created by Jewish television writers, but by the Dutch-descended, Connecticut-born, Manhattan private-school-attending, Cecily von Ziegesar and based on an exaggerated version of her own experiences? I’m sure it’s mostly a fantasy but this is not some conspiracy by evil jews to ridicule gentiles.

And here’s another consideration. The reason television shows don’t feature Jewish characters is not a conspiracy, but because the people who make the decisions about what to air would never greenlight a show about a bunch of Jewish kids, because they know full well that the kids who bring the ratings are not going to watch that. They want to watch pasty, skinny, white kids in urban environments being shitty to each other. They don’t want to watch realism.

And PS Jews do have an acronym. Haven’t you heard of JAPs! No reason to be envious!

Posted by KT on Sep 24, 2008.

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“KT”...tell us all about those “pasty” goyim. Your hatred and contempt towards the non-chosen ones is obvious. And AGAIN,the tv version is produced by Jews.

Oh you’re assuming I’m Jewish? I’m as WASPy as they come and pasty too!

I have no hatred toward anyone but bigots, and there seem to be plenty of those here.

Posted by KT on Sep 25, 2008.

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Embattled Academic Kevin MacDonald has been writing on the subject for quite a while now.  He has been severely attacked for his views, which should be read by all concerned.

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Blog-WeissII.htm

Posted by Ted on Sep 25, 2008.

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JS:
“So, as a Jew myself, I’d just like to say, to commenters and lurkers alike, “Hi guys!  See you at the next world domination meeting!” “

I’m a non-Jewish philo-Semite myself.  :)

While my main ethnic concern is for the well-being of my Ulster Protestant & Scots-Irish kinfolk, as far as the US goes there are much worse ethno-religious groups than Jews to be dominated by.  As we here in London are discovering.  Notably, most of the non-Jewish cultural Marxists here are now rabidly anti-Semitic, and many left-wing Jewish intellectuals have broken from their traditional comrades.

KT:
“Oh you’re assuming I’m Jewish? I’m as WASPy as they come and pasty too!”

Being accused of being secretly Jewish is kinda par for the course on Taki’s comment threads, *sigh*

People don’t like watching shows with jews?
What about Seinfeld. George Costanza, come on, the most jewish of the show.

Fascinating and largely on point, although I don’t think it’s accurate to suggest that a centuries old pedigree somehow acts as hurdle for Mayflower money to overcome in the college admissions process.  This is most profoundly incorrect where that lineage is associated with a given school.  Legacies are alive and well and living in the Ivy League.  The existence of back door mechanisms at certain prestigious schools for assuring admissions for the more affluent “nincompoops” are a poorly guarded secret.

Simon Newman writes: “While my main ethnic concern is for the well-being of my Ulster Protestant & Scots-Irish kinfolk, as far as the US goes there are much worse ethno-religious groups than Jews to be dominated by”.

Have you had many dealings with American Jews in their natural habitat? If you had you might change your tune. The topic is Jews in NYC, not Jews in Antrim or Chelsea.

KT, who are you trying to impress by disparaging your own kind?

Posted by Hal K on Sep 25, 2008.

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Simon Newman...keep channeling the spirit of Oliver Cromwell and David Lloyd George. You know whose ass you must kiss and you “philo-semites” do it well! Philo-semitic,but certainly anti-papist right? No wonder you have such a kinship..Israel in Palestine is following the model set in Eire.

I don’t care about impressing anyone. And I don’t think of bigots as “my own kind.”

“My own kind” is human beings and I don’t think any group is worthy of hatred and fear just because they are not me, just as I don’t think that anyone is great just because they are like me in terms of ancestry.

A lot of this makes me feel sorry for the people who live their lives in fear of others and with the idea that life is some kind of struggle for cultural dominance. It seems like a stressful and pathetic existence to me always worrying the non-existent evil lurking in every corner.

For example seeing hatred towards any cultural group in my words, which are not designed to disparage WASPs, only those people of any background who are consumed with xenophobia to the point that they think even the CW network is a tool for insidious world domination.

Posted by KT on Sep 25, 2008.

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KT:

I was thinking more of your use of the word “pasty” to describe yourself and the people on the show.

In regard to your latest comment, I recommend that you open your eyes to what is really happening in this world.

Posted by Hal K on Sep 25, 2008.

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wasp is basically a false name for preservation of parastic english race and their influnce in America.

6th march,2007.

BBC comment(atleast her washingtons correspondent’s comments) on scooter LibBy’s gulity verdit on 6th march,2007--"it does not matter to white house as long as iraq war turns out to be all right”!! for BBc illegal occupation of iraq and killing of million civilians does not matter -it will be al r ight for american occupation. This is human rights and democracy ala BBc and british propaganda.
see and watch todays bbc and realize how much bbc and other british propaganda machinary is responsible for bush war crimes.
He also assuredly told that this “white house is quite safe"as wished for by the british ofocurse. during gore-bush florida tussle bbc was advocating gore to leave bush alone as britian was waiting for american missile defence to come her shore soon and so no delay in small matter of who should be presidentof usa be allowed.d-bit belicve it? look at all british propaganda between 1st novembr till 20th novembr of 2000.
it is high time that engish spies in american establishment be eliminated..

it is high time that these english spies in usa are taken care of .

also during and after the gulf war(first iraq war) the british were taking full creidit for insitagating bush 1 to start and persue war agasint iraq. the reason war criminal blair diidnto take full creidt for iraq war 2 was because that went sour(failure has no fathers claming thiers). itis a fact that merciless war done by america has benen perpetauted by the british agents inside america( and not some indepdnet israli agents as claimed-it jsut so happend that only know israli interest happend to coinside with those of english parasites -that is why war on and for behalf of england is being waged by america the world over.
By the way in IN ‘88 when Dalai lama, at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefulness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hong Kong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries( as it did china after cold war) who are out of favour (because they would not be a british stooge) of the british media and govt. This is not surprising as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appalling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from charging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggressive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from pointing out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be victims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc.

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these protestant baptists((and so callled religious fundamentalists and evnagalicals bastards)) are the agents of england inside america and have always been.
thse baptists are the ones who created civil war for the benefit of british to reconquer america and during attack of britian in 1812 these baptists were acting as enemy agents inside amaerica.
these baptisat are called patrioit--now what a shame? the southern flag is sympbol of american patriotism when it was really an instrument of treachery to the american independence.

“ I am afraid the meddling small minded, fearful white boy is indicative of a large group of the amerikan types who still support a corrupt regieme of neo-con syncopants. He and those like him live in suspicion and fear of anyone different from themselves.
He was once a settler who cut down and burned the forest of New England because he was afraid of the wildlife. He was once a trader who passed out smallpox blankets to the Indians. Then later a buffalo hunter who decimated entire herds and left them to rot on the plains. His grandfather herded Japanese into camps, his father was at MyLai. His brothers are at Abu Graib and Gitmo. Where will he be tommorrow?”

“ but all non-WASP got (and still get) their time as scapegoat-du-jour: Native, Black, Chinese, Irish, Italian, Jew, Japanese, Catholic, Latino, and now Middle-Eastern, just to name a few. Along with the scapegoating goes the profiling, which is little more than prejudice and stereotypes made legal.”

The recent director of Harvard’s Carr Center for Human Rights, Michael Ignatieff, proposed in the New York Times in May 2004 that we should give U.S. presidents the authority to preventively detain U.S. citizens and to engage in “coercive interrogations” should the United States experience another terrorist attack like 9/11. Ignatieff argued that “defeating terror requires violence” and “might also require coercion, secrecy, deception, even violation of rights.” “Sticking too firmly to the rule of law simply allows terrorists too much leeway to exploit our freedoms,” he said.[1]

In addition to Harvard’s top human rights academic arguing on behalf of “torture lite,” Harvard Law School’s Alan Dershowitz supports “torture warrants” so that U.S. presidents can torture detainees in so-called “ticking bomb” cases.

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britain is the number one parasite nation of this world and is the main eviul brain behind american offensive (perpetual war) everywhere in the world.  Why? Because only through american military might can a fourth rate country like england hope to have some influnce in the world.
and the rest of the world is resopibnsible for this-why has aljarreza engagesd the british journalists like frost in the english version?lokk how much propaganda english eversion al zareeja is making agasint irana nd zimbawe -in otherworlds doing the bidding for british media and british govermnet lies.
it is high time that thr british are removed forcibly or killed from evrywhere outside britian or may be even inside if they are not goign to stop destrying other nations.
britian must be deafeated militarily-not a great diffciluty with a coward nation-and must be eliminated as serious challnege to humanity

(do not belive it? the queen of pirates ugly elizabeth 1 of destitue and pariah state called england made a pact with turks to loot christain ships to weaken to help the turks and weaken christinity in Europe.)
see this also--(One notable example of such an alliance was Suleyman’s outward support of Lutherans fighting the Pope in the Holy Roman Empire. Suleyman considered the Protestant rejection of icons and papal authority to be closer to Muslim belief than either Catholic or Orthodox Christianity, and his support of Protestantism was one of his key policies in Europe. By encouraging the disunity of Christianity, the Ottomans hoped to decrease the chances of Christian Europe uniting in a Crusade against the Muslim Ottomans. It has been suggested that Ottoman pressure played a decisive role in persuading the Habsburgs to grant several concessions to the Protestants. The Ottoman Empire was thus vital to maintaining the European balance of power in the 16th century.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/islam/empires/ottoman/suleyman.html).

what so called wasp -agents of england -have done to america.

31st jan.2007.
What so called democracy really mean for the rapacious anglosaxon race(yes it is a race war by parasitic Anglo-Saxons against the rest of the world)

it is very important to realize and understand the trickery of the english race in manipulating usa to wage wars on behalf of britain which gains most from Iraq war and any war that usa imposes on the third world and even on Europe.

Here are some of the writings done years ago to give a global picture of what is REALLY happening in the world and by WHOSE agency.
The modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit instruction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch Jews (like thee criminal U.K.-based fugitive oligarch Boris Berezovsky)
were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 4 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990 -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English .race through this money protection racket . It is money protection racket in the sense that those eliete’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks. The witness, who appeared on the Rossiya channel with his face hidden and was referred to as Pyotr, accused 61-year-old Berezovsky of killing Alexander Litvinenko because the former security officer knew how the exiled tycoon had obtained political asylum in Britain in 2003. This thief boris berezosvky is a terrorist as well who calls for violet end to Putin-the president who is one of the most loved of his countrymen compared to any in the world.
As someone said “We live in a world where criminals are good guys and patriots are villains: where Berezovsky is a liberal “human rights” activist and Putin is a moral monster.” that putin who is one of the most popular leader of any in the world.
say even if russia destroys usa then if britian or rather england is allowed to exist then the english parastic dog race will ,by very parasitic nature, will try to disrupt russia or other countries’ existence. therefore instead of attacking usa or poland it is best policy of russia to attrack and destroy to the whole of england which must be evaporated to a rubble.
IN ‘88 when Dalai lama, at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefulness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hong Kong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries( as it did china after cold war) who are out of favour (because they would not be a british stooge) of the british media and govt. This is not surprising as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appalling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from charging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggressive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from pointing out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be victims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc.

Mrs Margaret Thatcher, Britain’s so called iron Lady, refused to receive the Dalai Lama during his UK visit in the late-1980s for fear of offending his Chinese oppressors. Perhaps the iron in her was wrought iron, much given to bending in the heat.


In fact Britain is running a protection racket in the world through the help of american army-(because Britain is a third rate country with fourth rate army so it cannot do it on its own).
What Britain does is let the other countries be made instable (Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan etc) then let the british stooge be installed there-those people who have no following in own country and with strict instruction to those stooges that they will bring the money to britan,-that is how London has enriched itself in last 15 years after fall of soviet union. Billions of soviet money have flown illegally to London and the british court -kangaroo court if ever there was any -have not let the money go citing “it will harm england’s balance of payment”?
That is why british media gets incensed if the traitors like soviet spies are not left safe in Britain -because then the whole business of protection money racket and money that Britain gets is in jeopardy. That is what explains influx of foreign money to London and how London has overtaken new York in stock market. Forget about service industry -british are the most ill mannered race what service can they provide except protection racket on back of american arms? Britain is looting even usa. Through it is usa which has worked hard (through illegal invasions ) to make other countries unstable so that Britain can get money from protection of stooge elites of those countries..
the modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit insturction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch jews were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the kuwaits-who brought 4 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990 -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English race through this money protection racket . it is money protection racket in the sense that those elite’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks.

This is how the british and Americans now conduct their battle for “hearts and minds” – by making local satraps so widely and deeply despised that they are totally dependent on their Washington overlords for their sheer physical survival. The real “benchmark” the Iraqis have to display to the Americans’ satisfaction is an infinite capacity for obedience.”

“In the aftermath of President Abraham Lincoln’s defeat of the London-backed slave-holders’ Confederate insurrection, the London-linked New York faction of U.S. finance unleashed a predatory looting of the physical assets of the territory formerly ruled by the defeated Confederacy. That operation, which was described then as “carpetbagging,” is a term that pointed to the style of the personal baggage, in which the travelling, locust-like predators carried their personal effects.”

A very famous news mogul-Mr.R. Hearst (Jewish proprietor of Hearst news group))- had been stopped from running for american presidency in 1916 because he might not have been inclined to rescue england in the 1st world war. Anyway, the southern constituency was pressing hard for america to come to rescue england who was staring defeat and thus loosing the prospect of enslaved nations who would have been feed from defeat of england. America did come to aid of england and it was called end of isolationalism. But this end of isolationalism would be tolerated only when it suits english interest against others and not in case of others like freedom for Irish people in northern Ireland (an occupied part of Ireland).and that British agent Wilson intervened on side of Britain in name of spreading democracy at point of gun! Think of that-Britain was looting two third of the world at the time and killing starving millions of people-and this Wilson comes to Britain rescue in name of protecting democracy! And that is exactly what these bastards mean when they utter democracy-that is a code word for them to attack other countries for furtherance of british interest. Then if two millions Iraqi are killed -starved -it is price worth paying. Somebody can legitimately ask than what to do with 60 millions English people and then it would be worth the price to save the world from English rapacity.
“The First World War was by far the bloodiest conflict in human history up to that time. Schwartz and Skinner noted, “Woodrow Wilson proclaimed a war for democracy against ‘Prussian dictatorship,’ but that was propaganda. Germany had civil rights, an elected parliament, competing parties, universal male suffrage, and an unparalleled system of social democracy.” Germany was far more democratic than either the British or French empire.”

An Anglophile to the core, Wilson didn’t care about the fate of the Russians. His concern was in keeping German forces split along two fronts. The payoff worked: Russia’s provisional prime minister Aleksandr Kerensky kept the Russians involved in the war.

In 1916, Woodrow Wilson was re-elected to the presidency chiefly on the strength of a slogan: “He kept us out of war.” By 1917, the peacenik prez was leading the charge against Germany, jailing antiwar activists, and exhorting Americans to fight a “war to end all wars.” In 1940, Franklin Delano Roosevelt told the voters: “I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.” Behind the scenes, however, he was maneuvering to do just that – and by the end of 1941, we were fighting a two-front war, embracing “Uncle” Joe Stalin as a fellow “anti-fascist,” and planning the internment of the Japanese-American population.

“ When this English edition of Professor Stanislav Menshikov’s book has been printed, Russia’s President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin will have delivered his landmark May 10, 2006 “state of the union” address. The President’s address will have marked the probable close of what had been the demographically murderous, greatest carpetbagging swindle in history. The carpetbagging which Professor Menshikov’s book describes, is the post-1989 looting of the territory of the former Soviet Union, a looting that, in fact, has also been the predatory ruin of most of the East European territory of the Comecon outside Russia then and now.”-from

written in october 1997 and still so true.

British media-propaganda machine of english race-- BBC and all british media have done full steam propaganda to popularise the names of rubbish pop group like Oasis and spice girls. In fact the English race is only good in propaganda and the sale which results from it. But they would like Americans to believe that they are original thinkers and others steal their ideas to sell¬ The english are sellers, and commercial but because they know it is not a classy qualification, they started talking of class when in reality there has never been true aristocracy in England. they all are pirate cum shopkeepers. Make no mistake about it. It is the british agents in U.S.A. who (through complete hold of media, Hollywood and money) who have been active in spreading racial hatred against blacks, Hispanic, Irish, Italians, Germans, Greeks Russian, Polish Jews -in other words against all those Americans who are labelled ethnic Americans and who constitute more than 70 % of Americans outside anglo-saxon race. The same english which said on one voice to free the murderer girl is the same who goes which daily talks of desirability of tough law and order measures in U.S.A. It the same english media which does propaganda on behalf of biggest drug dealer in the world-B.A.T. And it is the same English sympathisers in States and English Govt. which brought about civil war in America to protect drug (tobacco) interests in U.S. It is the same B.B.C. which opposed in 1988 the sanctions against apartheid South Africa saying it will hurt British jobs. IT openly violated U.N.O. resolutions against South Africa for british interests. Such british interests must be destroyed as it is based on inhuman practices. In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of bat (who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis’ candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. Don’t confuse that it includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
etc -
British propaganda against Europeans races-- The same crowd who pushed U.S.A. Into both World Wars because otherwise England would have lost. It is the same crowd who asked for tough immigration measures against foreigners but have given free reign to English people to come to u.s.a. and work theatre without visa requirement. Those restricted against (from other foreign countries) are not only much more highly qualified specialists in their field but also they have much better standard of living than the English people who come to States. Those foreigners are mostly from elite school and are educated up to Ph.D. level while these english people are all non- PhDs. and almost all school failed. Very few of these english people are university educated. In fact England is a nation of plumbers and fitters. It is a progression from piracy and shop keeping. It shows in their accent that almost all of english immigrants to states are from plumber and fitter class. But they pose otherwise. they have created an accent only to show to Americans that they can sometimes Talk posh but it is a put on. actually they become posh only after they have milked America and taken jobs which would otherwise have gone to Americans. Besides their so called posh themselves have graduated from Pirates-turned _so called gentleman class. The upper class of England always have been pirate cum shopkeeper class. England never had aristocracy in the same the word aristocrat means. Aristocracy is in Italy, in Spain, In Germany, in France and other European nations. But the one country -england which never had true aristocracy talks a lot about that to impress Americans. Example-in all European countries There is a word to describe a lower member( let us say a starting point) of aristocracy-A Man who is mounted on a horse. Chevalier in French and Caballero in Spanish means exactly that. A man on horse. So is it in all European languages. but not in english. The equivalent word knight is not derived from horse
.It has been artificially given the same meaning. The reason is simple. In England there has never been a class of blood’s (though they talk most of all people about it). Anybody could be and can be given entrance to their so called aristocracy. Mostly Pirates turned shopkeepers have been favourites to receive knighthood. It is not true of only pirate queen Elizabeth1 but is has been much before that bandit queen and it is true even today. The point is important. Because by giving false propaganda that they somehow have class they have gained entrance into Hollywood and shaped much of today’s American thinking. In fact enlish people declare themselves classy in england usually they have earned a lot a money in Hollywood. It is america which improves their class and not vice-versa as they would like Americans to believe. There is another word (or lack of it)
which shoes that English race never had class. In all European languages there is an equivalent word for` `Bonn Appetite``. Not in english. Because even after last 200 hundred years of ill-gotten money the English race never developed class to appreciate good food. In the same way english language( u.k.) has a lot of word for sensational and secretive kind but very few words to describe finer things in Life like Philosophy, arts, etc. The point being made is that English people must be prohibited from coming to States to get employment in lucrative jobs when their are more better qualified people in States and elsewhere. Because England is not only controlling American foreign policy but also it’s domestic and economic policy.

Tappir Zapper:
“Have you had many dealings with American Jews in their natural habitat? If you had you might change your tune. The topic is Jews in NYC, not Jews in Antrim or Chelsea. “

Yeah, obviously I can only speak to my own experiences.

Mega Therion:
“You know whose ass you must kiss and you “philo-semites” do it well!”

I didn’t think my posts on this thread were particularly ass-kissing…

Mr. Singh,

I haven’t had a bowel movement like that in a long time.  Could you share your formula?

avatar singh,

the english never had class because their word for aristocracy is not derived from being on a horse? Wow I must’ve missed that. What a great point you’ve made. I was blind before this weight was lifted off my mind.

& Simon Newman,

Grow up, its about what you do to benefit your own not other groups because taking sides with them isn’t gonna get you one step closer to anywhere you want the Ulster Scots to be.

KT, here’s hoping you are young and naive, because I truly pity you if your words are coming from someone who is old and naive.

Print off your comments and come back in a decade or two after you’ve thoroughly engulfed yourself in this egalitarian utopia of racial harmony of yours.

Posted by Cyd on Sep 26, 2008.

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I notice that Taki’s Magazine states that “personal attacks, ethnic slurs, the riding of hobby horses and the beating of dead ones will be deleted” in the Comments section. Judging by the bizarre anti-Semitism, the vile, shameful remarks and the riding of the usual Hooknosed-Yids-Control-New York hobbyhorse littering this post, Taki has some deletin’ to do! Most of you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. As a WASPy type myself, I find your comments disgraceful and embarrassing. Do your mothers know you sit at the computer typing this anonymous, conspiratorial garbage? While Taki allows this nastiness on his website, the right will never lose its rep as a hotbed of suppressed bigotry.

Posted by GRFK on Sep 28, 2008.

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//While Taki allows this nastiness on his website, the right will never lose its rep as a hotbed of suppressed bigotry.

Posted by GRFK on Sep 28, 2008.//

Well bigotry is narrow-mindedness ie. what you basically expressed in saying that all these opinions ought be banned and deleted because you a WASPy type of a leftist disagrees with them. Much better if Taki called its opponents bigots while banning them from expression with jingoistic Political Correctness.