Jack Hunter

Why Ron Paul Didn’t Get Invited to the Party

Posted by Jack Hunter on September 08, 2008

When Republican delegate Cyndi Mosteller was asked why Joe Lieberman was speaking at the Republican Convention, she answered, “Because he understands the importance of 9/11. This is a big-tent party.” But apparently the tent wasn’t large enough for Republican congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul, whose counter-convention in Minneapolis drew upwards of 12,000 supporters who listened to a day’s worth of speeches on reducing the size of government, returning to the Constitution, and brining the Republican Party back to its conservative roots. Paul, who received more votes in the Republican primaries than convention speakers Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, had to organize his own event because due to his opposition to the Iraq war, the GOP would not even let him in through the door at his own party’s convention. 

In hindsight, it’s hard to imagine John McCain picking a better running mate than Sarah Palin, as the small-town, straight-shootin’, outside-the-Beltway mother of five has not only become the life of his party, but has been successful in making everyone forget that Republican leaders could care less about any of the conservative values she represents.



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In hindsight, it’s hard to imagine John McCain picking a better running mate than Sarah Palin, as the small-town, straight-shootin’, outside-the-Beltway mother of five has not only become the life of his party, but has been successful in making everyone forget that Republican leaders could care less about any of the conservative values she represents.

Hmmm.  Well, at least partially correct.  The Pubs long ago deserted conservative political belief.

The question of whether Gov Palin is anything more than a “cultural conservative” is open. We shall find out forthwith but I’m betting she will prove to be solidly in the neoconservative camp. The neocons will likely be in “rapture” over her foreign policy positions.

Posted by dbriz on Sep 08, 2008.

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I hope some republican hack says she’s “someone you want to have a beer with”

Lester more and more Obama reminds me of Algonquin J. Calhoun. I was againt the surge, now it is a great sucess. What do the democrats stand for but abortion, high taxes and homosex. I live in Wisconsin a key batttle ground state. Since Friday Obama personally has been fronting abortion adds. This is unprecedented. In 25 years in the prolife movement I have never seen a presidential candidate do this. They usually have Emeily’s list or Naral do it. they must really be afraid to think they can will with abortion and high taxes as their main themes.

Well said, Jack. 

However, chances are, the possibly Secessionist-sympathetic Sarah has a deep Independent streak.  If so, and she gets restricted to a Housekeeping role, as you say, all the better to steel her resolve for 2012 (or 2016), when she will rule the ticket in spite of the efforts of the NC. 

Keep in mind, hoping for the future, that NC influence is not absolute in matters of thrusting their toadies on the public.  If it were, surely we would be looking at a Giuliani ticket. 

I say, from now on, we simply Text Message in our votes, and especially if the shills at Fox News object.

I was up really late last night (this morning) and was pleasantly surprised to hear some positive Ron Paul coverage on Indie 103.1.  Apparently the Suicide Girls are big supporters of Ron Paul!

They had someone call in who had been to the Rally for the Republic and had screamed himself hoarse.  He also was involved with a protest with Veterans against the Iraqi War and said that the policemen realized that these anti-war protesters weren’t a bunch of hippies and five of them apparently asked to be relieved of their duties because they couldn’t beat down these veterans opposed to our folly in Iraq.

The host of the show said that they are totally behind Ron Paul because the other two candidates are pro-war, and would dedicate a show to him.  They were going to bring in this caller (who I guess is a friend of the hosts) and Aimee Allen who performed music at the Rally.  Viva la Revolucion!

Change is coming. There is only one candidate worth voting for

http://www.inews3.com/topstory.php?id=49276d204e6f747c537061727461637573

The Republican Party has been playing the “culture war” game since Nixon, talking like
populists, but governing like economic plutocrats. Palin is the a continuation of the game
plan, McCain hoping to distract the white working folk from the faltering economy and the
failure of the Republican tax-cutting economic policies. Not to mention an endless war to
force “democratic capitalism” in the Wall Street mode on other peoples by sticking a gun down their throats.

McCain’s ads are so disingenuous, it’s hard to believe, out and out lies about Obama’s tax
cuts and other things. He is even insinuating that the declining wages and increasing costs
of gasoline, health care and housing make tax cuts--most of which go to the superrich and Wall Street bankers,
necessary to provide “relief” to the snookered voters. When of course, we know that financing
the deficits are the reason the globalization/outsourcing/trade deficits economic policy exist
in the first place---foreigners need to do something with their excess dollars since the USA
doesn’t produce anything anyone needs, except maybe subsidized agricultural commodities and
implements of high-tech warfare. Even the high gas prices are a “war” tax, the federal
government buying up oil futures to keep the price high, so that OPeC has enough dollars to
finance the occupation of Iraq.

The Republican elites left their conservative roots decades ago; when they embraced Imperialism, the Federal Reserve and (later) the profits of globalism.

As much as most of the Republican culturally conservative base would like to believe that Sarah Palin is a real-life, culturally conservative, “Mrs. Smith goes to Washington;” I have my doubts.

Will she “embrace the darkside” (neoconservatism)?  Probably.  Her religious beliefs predispose her to it.

Is she a true “cultural conservative”?  I doubt it. A true cultural conservative would place hearth and home (and her children) above a political career).

Why do I say this? Listen to and read the advice from the likes of Dobson, and the rest of the Religious Right’s leaders. If her situation was presented anonymously to them; they would tell her that her family was more important than the position of veep
(or governor, for that matter).

Sure, she’s brought life to McCain’s political campaign.  Is she knowledgable enough to step into the presidency and guide the country if McCain becomes incapacitated or dies?  I don’t think so.

(However, BHO is not experienced enough to be POTUS..jmho.)

I will probably hold my nose and vote for McCain...However, I am not optimistic about the future of this country.

The Neo Conservative Rovublican Party is a master at bait and switching cultural conservatives. They are played every time but still, they endlessly think that “someday” the candidate they support now.... will pay them back for their faithful support by bringing their Little House on the Prairie Utopia to the forefront.  This is likely one of the most sturdy bits of humor to the ongoing sideshow.

The Military Security State, mysteriously powered by unfunded liabilities thinks Family Values is defined by the value of a family in the pursuit of political theatre. Palin may be the swan song of this idiotic period of hypocrisy because the gamblers have doubled down and the odds are looking more threadbare. Each use of their cynical playing to the Cultural Conservatives is getting ever more caricatured. Palin is chock full of contradiction and the pusillanimous media sure wont ferret it out, particularly with Dear Old Uncle Charlie Gibson at ABC anointed to give the press the first in depth crack at her.

Everyone should snap their ass hats off and figure out that the choices they are being offered are not choices but well-orchestrated maneuverings at cross purposes with the citizens interests.

Sooner or later, if we fail to make this leap, it will be forced on us by deteriorated economic circumstances. With the measures instituted by this current administration and its Sunbeams for the Unitary Executive, the possibility of a tyrant emerging to ‘save’ the citizenry.....essentially from itself...will be real.

McCain has flipped on every issue out there and Palin is Bush in lipstick but the Republican’s claiming to be independent or paleo are re-joining their cadres. The comrades have called and they follow in their Glorious Leader worship. Later they complain when they are yet again betrayed again but they still keep trying to seduce people to their evil.

One of the Iraqi Vets against the war spoke at the Rally for the Republic and said we may have to water the tree of Liberty. One of the biggest cheers I heard was Jesse Ventura denouncing the bi-partisan evil that is the so-called Patriot Act. No one who loves their freedom or the old Constitutional Republic could think of voting for McCain or Obama. Johnny McNasty is going to run the country and not Palin anyway. She is clueless. The spineless Joint Chiefs are just careerist politicians and the AEI is going to keep running the Pentagon.

Joe Lieberman is indoctrinating Palin and they may even let her talk to the lapdog press under controlled situations soon. They have been slapped around enough to know not to ask questions.

“reducing the size of government, returning to the Constitution, and brining the Republican Party back to its conservative roots.”

The GOP has no conservative roots.  Karl Marx was a great admirer of the first republican president, Lincoln, who led his party in the first “republican revolution”, an overthrow of constitutional rule and a needless war against the American people at large, North and South.

Reoublicans are socialists.  Their party has always been a radical socialist party, no matter what sort of pretentions their publicists exhibit.

After Palin has outed herself as a solid NeoCon supporter over the past few days, I think that we can bury our hope she will be preparing herself for leading us into the promised land in 2012. All one can pray for, is that a McCain executive and a Hillary led Democratic Congress will cancel each other out over the next four years. How sad that that is the best one can hope for.

Palin has proven how desperate conservatives are to expect a miracle from the Party that slammed the door in their face!(Is masochistic behavior part of being a conservative?).....The Southern Avenger has nailed it, yet conservatives hang out like sick puppies scorned by a woman, and praying for love and bread crumbs to fall from the table!(While they pee on themselves.).......How can CONSERVATISM be a viable force in America, when most spout archaic, philosophical rubbish, instead of telling their leadership that they are full of shit!(I’m not sure that COURAGE is a conservative quality, after seeing how easily they allow Neo-Non-Conservatives to spank their little asses like the bitches that they are!) They don’t even have a voice in their own convention!

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=35184

Yet, we should remember that “Little Evangelical Christian Women” that rescue the GOP(Gutted Our Principles)from the big bad Dems are nothing but pawns to do what weak-ass conservatives have no gonads to do!

“JILTED” The Bush Brothers etc,etc.
http://wwww.slate.com/id/212174

Posted by roho on Sep 08, 2008.

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Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr are meeting at the National Press Club this week. They have said there will be a major announcement. What will the announcement be?

1. Will it be Ron Paul telling his troops to get behind either of these candidates as a protest vote?

2. Will it be that they are pulling out of the race but telling their supporters to get in the fight to remake the Republican party. They will do this without any specific endorsement of McCain Palin?

3. Will it be number 2 but with an endosement of the ticket? This would be with an agreement with McCain to the following.
a. He will promise no wars with out a declaration of war.
b. He will ask Ron Paul’s help to reform the economy.
c. He will promise to respect civil rights and the Constitution.
There could be more but I vote for either 2 or three.

If it is 2 or 3, I vote Nader again.

Let’s see ...

The nut known as Dr./Rep. Ron Paul didn’t graciously drop out of the Republican primary when he didn’t get more than, what, 5 percent of the vote in any early state; and then - and then - he held a counter-convention in St. Paul.  And you WONDER why he wasn’t invited to the GOP convention?! To borrow a line from the movie “The 40 Year Old Virgin”: What are you, f***in’ retarded?!”

Joltin’ Django,

“The nut” as you refer to Dr. Ron Paul got double digits in a few states. And btw, he beat McSame in Nevada.

The only thing “nutty” about Campaign for Liberty movement is the fact that we even bother attempting to educate folks like you to the contents of the Constitution. Go read it some time, you might learn a bit about our Republic.

I must ask you, what percentage of votes did Lieberman get in the Republican primaries? Dr. Paul got more total votes than Rudy and Fred added together and multiplied by a factor of three (3), so why were any of those losers on the stage?

Just my .02,
DanielC in SC

Well, the whole of Minneapolis is contained within Minnesota’s Congressional District Five, where the well-placed Republican candidate is Barb Davis White, a Civil Rights leader and African-American clergywoman. (And what does that tell you about the Black Church and about how it is following the white Catholics and Evangelicals down the road of forced estrangement from the Democratic Party?)

In that latter capacity, she gave the invocation.

Across the road.

At Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic.

, http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com

I heard sen. Arlen Specter has even suggested Joe Liberman join the GOP ASAP.... The neocons obviously think Sarah Palin will consolidate the conservative vote, plus some of the Hillary CLinton voters plus a substantial part of the Ron Paul vote. But they make a big mistake if they think Ron Paul supporters would be so dumm as to think they would go for the VP candidate, while it is the candidate on top of the ticket that makes policy. Also, the “other” conservatives will
have to think after the initial honeymoon period about the differences between McCain and Palin and McCain’s positions on “global warming”, McCain-Feingold, illegal immigration etc etc.

Thank you Stefan! Voting for McAmnesty because of Palin is like eating at a lousy resturant with a lousy cook for 4 years, because the nice waitress might get promoted to cook!...........DUMB!

Posted by roho on Sep 09, 2008.

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