Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha keep it up Taki, this the best I have seen in a long time.

Didn’t you read Schoeman’s last article, Taki? “Salvation is from the Jews,” so of course we should use the U.S. military to protect them from all potential threats! If you continue this anti-semitic hate speech, we will have no choice but to conclude that you too are a Brown, Germanic Pagan. Now let’s get back to important discussions ... like about how Hitler wasn’t a very good Christian.

Wonderful Plan!!!  Kristol is a national treasure;
a peerless visionary; the most trenchant, valorous
political genius in the United States.
I would like every neo-conservative or
like-minded liberal idiot and evangelical cashiered
into the Israeli Armed Services immediately.
Somebody....Wake Sharon up!!!

I too support the U.S./Israeli daft.

Well, now you’ve gone and done it, Taki.  Adriana and Mr. Cundiff will be expelling you from your own website. First you dare to criticize FDR and Truman and next you criticize Zionism and US militarism.  Small wonder the ubiquitous “browns” have had such an easy time infiltrating the paleos when one of the top paleo websites is run by a “brown”.  But now your mask has been ripped off.  The Adriana/Sid Cundiff inquisition will be convened shortly.  Do you have any last words?

It’s almost too believeable to be funny. 

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Welcome to Taki’s party. Classic!

“Well, now you’ve gone and done it, Taki.  Adriana and Mr. Cundiff will be expelling you from your own website. First you dare to criticize FDR and Truman and next you criticize Zionism and US militarism.  Small wonder the ubiquitous “browns” have had such an easy time infiltrating the paleos when one of the top paleo websites is run by a “brown”.  But now your mask has been ripped off.  The Adriana/Sid Cundiff inquisition will be convened shortly.  Do you have any last words?”

Ha ha.

Everyone:

From now one, Sid Cundiff’s new nickname is “David Frum Jr.”

As David Frum wanted to excommunicate all paleos from the conservative movement, so “PC Sid” wants to excommunicate everyone from TakiMag who does not toe the line on political correctness.

Please call him by his proper name.

Adriana,

We are alone in this wilderness of Browns, racists, and bigots.  (BTW, what’s your phone number?) We need more insightful pieces by geniuses like Roy Shoeman. 

These browns are clueless.  Little do they know that Real Conservatism is all about open borders, civil rights, and voting rights for minorities.

I say we start a petition to prohibit Taki from publishing any more articles on his site.  Perhaps we could rename it Shoeman’s Top Drawer?

David Frum Jr.  (AKA, Sid)

“Didn’t you read Schoeman’s last article, Taki? “Salvation is from the Jews,” so of course we should use the U.S. military to protect them from all potential threats! If you continue this anti-semitic hate speech, we will have no choice but to conclude that you too are a Brown, Germanic Pagan. Now let’s get back to important discussions ... like about how Hitler wasn’t a very good Christian.” - George Hawley

“Well, now you’ve gone and done it, Taki.  Adriana and Mr. Cundiff will be expelling you from your own website. First you dare to criticize FDR and Truman and next you criticize Zionism and US militarism.  Small wonder the ubiquitous “browns” have had such an easy time infiltrating the paleos when one of the top paleo websites is run by a “brown”.  But now your mask has been ripped off.  The Adriana/Sid Cundiff inquisition will be convened shortly.  Do you have any last words?” - Kurt Higdon

“Adriana, We are alone in this wilderness of Browns, racists, and bigots.  (BTW, what’s your phone number?) We need more insightful pieces by geniuses like Roy Shoeman.  These browns are clueless.  Little do they know that Real Conservatism is all about open borders, civil rights, and voting rights for minorities. I say we start a petition to prohibit Taki from publishing any more articles on his site.  Perhaps we could rename it Shoeman’s Top Drawer?” - Sid Clone

I almost fell out of my chair laughing.  Great piece, Taki!!!

Taki’s piece is priceless...I must admit that until I got
about half-way through it, I almost believed it. It
certainly sounds like something that the Kristols,
Podhoretzs, Krauthammers, and Ledeens of this world would
have the US do...shh! please don’t give them any ideas!!

By the way, pace Russell Kirk: he was good friends with
the late Alfred Lilienthal, author of THE ZIONIST
CONNECTION, one of the earliest (and most informed)
critiques of American subinfeudation to the Israeli
interests. Once it was legitimate to offer forceful
criticism of America’s relationship with Israel. Now,
any mention, any critique, earns the critic the title
of “anti-semitic” (or perhaps “brown” on this list?).
Even such “mainstream” academics as Walt and Mearsheimer
(whose new book THE ISRAELI LOBBY is soon to hit the
newstands) have been savaged by the likes of Abe Foxman,
the ADL, and others. Paul Findley, Chuck Percy, Pat
Buchanan, Joseph Sobran, and even J. William Fulbright
have felt the weight of such stark intolerance by
“the lobby.” But, just maybe the tide is beginning to
turn, just a bit. It’s good to read Norman Finkelstein (even
if he is a man of the left), Peter Novick, Albert Lindeman,
independently-minded scholars and Jewish academics all; not
to mention the thought-provoking writings of Kevin McDonald
and others in THE OCCIDENTAL QUARTERLY.

In our skeptical age, which questions just about everything--
which can place a Crucifix in a bottle of urine and call
it art--it is entirely appropriate to question the role of
foreign lobbies and influence here in the United States.

At least I’m too old for the draft!!!

“At the present time, a significant challenge comes from the intellectuals and related groups who assert their disgust with the corruption, materialism, and inefficiency of democracy and with the subservience of democratic government to “monopoly capitalism.” The development of an “adversary culture” among intellectuals has affected students, scholars, and the media. Intellectuals are, as Schumpeter put it, “people who wield the power of the spoken and the written word, and one of the touches that distinguish them from other people who do the same is the absence of direct responsibility for practical affairs,"3 In some measure, the advanced industrial societies have spawned a stratum of value-oriented intellectuals who often devote themselves to the derogation of leadership, the challenging of authority, and the unmasking and delegitimation [sic]of established institutions, their behavior contrasting with that of the also increasing numbers of technocratic and policy-oriented intellectuals. In an age of widespread secondary school and university education, the pervasiveness of the mass media, and the displacement of manual labor by clerical and professional employees, this development constitutes a challenge to democratic government which is, potentially at least, as serious as those posed in the past by the aristocratic cliques, fascist movements, and communist parties….
Democratic government does not necessarily function in a self-sustaining or self-correcting equilibrium fashion. It may instead function so as to give rise to forces and tendencies which, if unchecked by some outside agency, will eventually lead to the undermining of democracy.”

And to think we still have people spouting virtues of democracy. Sammy Huntington spelled it all out for Carter and Brezinsky way back when. Hail to the Fuhrer. Seems only the neo-cons got the message.

At first I thought this was real. It’s disturbing how close this is to something that could really happen.

How do we know if this is satire if you don’t tell us, Taki?

Some folks can’t read. Or twist something into their own perverted meaning. Taki CLEARLY mentions that there are Jews, and many of them, in the USA and Israel, who deplore the Neocon draft. He CLEARLY mentions Christian Evangelicals and Dispensationalists (and thus non-Jews) who support it.  But then, putting words into other people’s mouths are a popular extremist tactic.

Taki is NOT supporting the Brown pogrom. He isn’t Brown at all.

Its amazing isn’t it? As one commenter said, he was wondering “if the piece was real”.

Israel is not the fifty-first state. And while empathetic, and very willing to send some moeny and military aid, Im not willing to send our kids to die in a war they are in. They are not “vital” to us.

Think about it: If an asteroid fell to earth tommorow and nailed Guam, would life here really change?

If an asteroid fell to Earth and utterly destroyed Zimbabwe, but without massive seismeic aftershocks, would life here really change?

If that same rock hit Israel, life here wouldn’t really change either as we really dont trade that much with them, really dont have a mutual security arrangement, they really dont have oil, and we really dont benefit from having as many nations pissed off at us as perpetually are for our support of Israel’s policies. She is the most expensive ally in the history of national relationships. A white elephant if there ever was one.

It simply confounds belief that this administration has named Iran’s republican guard a “terrorist organization” (what in the hell have they done?), and is obviously wanting to use it as a subtext for some sort of military strike. Its almost unbelievable that this administration got elected. Its as if a “Manchurian Candidate” has won our executive branch and we are beholden to it for 8 whole years with no good alternative.

David Frum Jr.,

You are missing the point.  None of us are browns.  Opposing your politically correct piffle on immigration, civil rights or race does not make one a brown.

2009 the Neocons will be gone.  The Evangelicals will go back into inner exile as they did after the Scopes Trial.  TThe Cultural Marxists will be in power. The Cultural Marxist takeover will have a silver lining: The de facto Nazis of American will not be able to launch its already planned pogrom, and we’ll be spared the shameful sight of burning synagogues a la the Reichskristalnacht.  Of course the Cultural Marxists have there own version of this: “reparations”, the assault weapons ban, and Waco to the nth degree.  I told ya so.

The “Neocons” ARE the “Cultural Marxists”!

What you are describing here, “Cassandra”, is the split of the
“Neocons” from the “Christian-Conservative” wing of the Republican
Party, something that’s been a long time coming.

The future looks a lot like recent history, with the
Republican Party being controlled by it’s roots:
quasi-irreligious Big Government WASPs and their Big
Government “ethnic” “hangers-on”, such as Rudolph Giuliani.
Remember, LaGuardia was a not-so-devout Anglican Republican,
a “Fusion” candidate, just like Giuliani.

The Democrats will be controlled by more “traditional”
“ethnics”, such as America’s Blacks, “social justice
Catholics”, labour unions, and protectionist-minded
businessmen, as well as militarists out in search of monsters
to fight.

In the end, the two groups that are “left behind” are
the “Evangelicals” and the old-school Jeffersonian Democrats.

I was totally fooled.  Thanks Taki for a great laugh at myself.
Too funny.

Awwww… I think Sid and Adriana would make a cute couple. Y’all have to stop this. I’m laughing out loud at work. Are you trying to get me fired?

taki, thank you for giving us a glimpse of the mountain from a different angle.

i guess we have to extrapolate into absurdity the reality that we are living, in order that we can accept the hopelessness wherein we’re trapped.

the only reason this article can be humorous is because of the underlying truths presented therein.

How much longer can the Christain Right(who are always wrong)
and the Zionist Jews pull off this “God’s chosen people” scam?

Anyone with half a brain and eyes to see knows that the Jews
have never accepted Jesus as the Messiah. The Bible is very
clear that Israel(not the same as Jews) is God’s chosen.

The physical decendents of Jacob/Israel are the white
Christian nations chosen by God to spread the Gospel to the
world which they have done… NOT the Jews.

@MLF

What are you going to do when South American, African and Asian
Catholics have to re-evangelize Europe and North America?

Funny article by Taki and funny responses! Good to find humour and common sense in one place!

Is this satire?  Please tell me it is.

Taki,

Evlogita!

This is the most deftly written piece of satire-cum-prophecy I’ve read in ages.  Your talents are wasted yachting—stick to writing tomorrow’s news!

Cheers,
Nicholas

I was incredulous, but I came to see what this was. A Daily Show segment.

Excellent, timely, provoking satire!  Thanks, Taki.

Pardon my ignorance. I just stumbled across this blog and can’t quite discern what a ‘brown’ is.

Someone else elsewhere has said that we ought to ask those eager to draft and itching to spill blood these questions?

1. Got kids?  If not, let those with kids decide.
2. If yes, are they in the US army or in the army of the countries which we are to fight for?  Or are your kids in Ivy League universities and Bob Jones?
3. If the latter, then just whose child should do the bleeding and dying.?

Nationalist of all sorts disgust me, especially those who would have the US promotes another country’s nationalist and irredentist aspirations. I’ve said it before:  I’m for Washington’s foreign policy—GEORGE Washington’s. I’m for his Jewish policy, as stated in his address to the Hebrew Congregation in Newport, RI, 18 August 1790.  I’m also for his policy on the militia, civil rights, voting rights, the slave trade, and Abolition.  The Neocons, the Reds, and the Browns, don’t want these policies of Washington known.

the problem is this doesn’t go far enough.

I’m calling bullshit on this article.
Wheres the backup? The proof that anyone quoted in this article said anything about this?
None of the links go to relevant articles. None of the sites in the links have any info on this topic.
Where have the PNAC’s been? No new news on their site in YEARS let alone this information.
Even your google link is incorrect and when you do search for UnitedstatesandIsrael only 2 articles are returned and this is one of them.
Again, this whole article is BS until proven otherwise.

to the estimable comrade bullsheet, since some individuals can’t handle the truth, it must come disguised as a joke.

laughter is the best medicine for what ails the western “democracies”.

Novb:  It’s satire, you dupe.

Don’t laugh too hard.
The MidEast people are already calling our toops “the Jews.”
They have already made the association.

More and more Americans are waking up to the Zionist element that has occupied our government. 

I was recently talking to a good buddy, a colonel in the Army, who used to be a major Bush supporter, but has seen the writing on the wall (starting with immigration, and now with Iraq).  He said that more and more officers are starting to wake up and are realizing that they are fighting a war that is not at all in the American interest and was started by foreign elements in our government.

Hopefully something will be done before it is too late.

I say we take Zionism to its logical element and permanently deport Pearl, Feith, Frum, Kristol and the rest of them to Israel, and if they ever set foot on American soil again we’ll charge them with treason.

White, Christian, and Proud!

I am glad that this is a piece of satire, though for a
moment it looked too real.

God knows that these people have enough hubris to try it,
but I hope that by now the American people have been
chastened enough.

Ah, Woodrow Wilson, what harm you and your disciples have
made!

It’s satire today. I wonder if it will be satire tomorrow.

Taki writes, “David Frum described Shineski as ‘a tired, cashiered old military failure who has ranged himself this time with the likes of David Duke and the Aryan Nation.”

Earlier this month, ridiculous smears like that were employed by Taki’s own website to demonize Michael Hoffman, who was libelously accused of ties to Stormfront and National Vanguard.

Are the smear tactics wrong in themselves, or only wrong when wielded by Frum?

Mazel Tov,
Baruch

Chill out Outlaw. Whether Ivy League or Bob Jones
(and you know that Bob Jones does not have the prestige
of old Ivy League institutions..) the point is that
those kids are safely away, and not likely to be drafted
and asked to stop bullets with their bodies.

Really Dennis?  Get your own ass in uniform, then.

Not very accurate, surely?
“Navy carriers all along the Straits of Hormuz, and National Guard units patrolling the length of the Iranian border with Syria. And the Israeli border with Syria.”

1) What about the much larger Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman (never mind the Arabian Sea, Mediterranean etc.)?
2)Iran does not share a border with Syria (yet).
3) The “Israeli border with Syria” is better known as the Golan Heights.

With odd geographical knowledge of this sort your super-accurate, remote-controlled weapons won’t be busting many enemy bunkers.

I comment only to answer zulubanshee’s question:

A “brown” is word some people on this site use for fascists, though I’ve noticed it can be used a bit more broadly to include non-fascist anti-Semites, John Birch Society members, and anyone to the right of oneself.

Mr. Outlaw smears me. Against Evangelicals with respect to their value conservatism, their laudable probity, and their piety I have absolutely nothing.  Against the foreign policy of those Evangelicals who are Dispensationalists I have much. 

I also don’t have anything against Ivy League universities.

Robert Welch lives.

And I thank Adriana, who can read, and reads well.

“I was recently talking to a good buddy, a colonel in the Army, who used to be a major Bush supporter, but has seen the writing on the wall (starting with immigration, and now with Iraq).  He said that more and more officers are starting to wake up and are realizing that they are fighting a war that is not at all in the American interest and was started by foreign elements in our government.”

I have been hearing the same thing from my contacts.

The National Socialist party was a middle class party. In the early stages it tried to recruit the true blue collar but it lost in elections. The “brown” in the Weimar Republic consisted of lawyers, teachers, farmers, accountants, clerks, disgruntled WWI vets, small shop keepers, etc. It was a totally “democratic” movement, oclocratic in character, in love with progress and modernity. Sounds too much like general America.

@Outlaw

As your said, Fundamentalists consider Bob Jones to be
on the same level as Ivy League, but that belief has
not spread to the general population. Thus you cannot
say that its reputation is on the same level. Deserved
or undeserved, it is so.

And I do not see what difference it makes to Mr. Cundiff’s
argument that studentes in any of those institutions are
inmune to being called to shed their blood in wars.

this may be of interest: http://bushslastday.com/

Good luck in your new war.  Maybe could be draft the Israeli-supporting evangelical suckers.  No one will miss them anyway

I agree with what Joe Populist said, it is almost too believable to be funny. I’ve had so many small town guys come up to me in public in the last few years and start political discussions about how wonderful Israel is and how the Jews changed Palestine from a desert into a paradise. Only then did I realize the full impact of Neocon propaganda on the average American and it is downright scary!

Actually, I would wellcome draft and especially American soldiers fighting ( or rather raping) under Israely flag.
That is what we’ve been doing unofficially for quite a while now.
My sons being out of the reach of the U.S. recruiters, I would be heartily laughing on hearing that siblings of Joe Lieberman (or Kristol’s)are blown to pieces, somewhere in the desert around Tehran.
(Gory statistics could finally become fun).
Let’s mobilize all the Jews, give them long bayonets and send them to charge on the fireing line .
To put their money where their foul mouth is.

Noyb, your funny critique has got tears in my eyes from laughter.  Don’t feel bad I was fooled too.

Those of you who consider yourselfs to be traditional conservatives, should read the follow.  Read it carefully and think about Mr. Kristol’s plan to draft “YOUR” children

Thinking About Neoconservatism
http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/030918_neoconservatism.htm

Billy Bob,

I hope there are more of your kind out there.
It might mean there is still hope for this country
if some evangelicals are anti-war.  Worldwide the evangelicals
were almost uniformly anti-war.  The U.S. is unique in the
world that we have pro-war evangelicals and catholics.

It was only after reading the comments at the end that it
dawned on me that Taki was joking. Almost everything in his
spoof is too plausible to be funny. At this point the neocons
could order the US government to hand over American armed
forces to the Israelis as part of a Martin Luther King-
Churchill-Lincoln fighting unit to be deployed against
Ramallah and obtain
all the responses that Taki resourcefully invented.

M.Nucci is right, it is only in the U.S. that war is popular among Christians. How sad to see the level of corruption the Christ’s Teachings has reached in this Land of the Free.
I am not surprised by Evangelicals. They are no religion at all when lead by characters like Robertson ( who ‘talks’ to God every Thursday and preaches murder) or other degenerate types.
Catholics are more difficult to accept, although I admit I haven’t heard their Supreme Pontefice condemning the Wars we are in. An energetic call for Peace by Benedict XVI, would, I am sure, make Bush think twice before launching us into another catastrophe.

I thank Mr. Outlaw for his clarification on Dispensationalism.  I urge him and his fellow Dispensationalist who oppose the Iraq war to so clarify The Rev. Hagee.

For his benefit: check out the Wiki for Robert Henry Winborne Welch Jr., and his society.

is rabbi hagee a christian?

Adriana,

I indeed think that you read very well.  (But I can’t keep from asking myself:  what color are those eyes doing the reading?)

We are alone in a jungle of bigots, nazis and racists.  Just you and I.  We have each other and that is it.

Little do these browns know that real conservatism is all about political correctness, equality, open borders, white self-hatred, and voting rights for minorities.

In these desolate times we need each other.  (But you still haven’t given me your phone number!)

Down with the browns!!!

Yours always,

David Frum Jr.  (aka Sid Cundiff)

And Adriana,

Since I just had a couple wine coolers, I’ll be even more frank.  When I hear you defending the timeless truths of political correctness against these browns, I feel a burning in my loins that I haven’t felt in a very long time.

David Frum Jr.  (aka Sid Cundiff)

OK Ok so the Taki article was a lark eh?I got spoofed. At least I’m in good company, Paul Gottfried was taken in as were many others I suspect.

Brilliant satire. So close to the truth the article is truly terrifying.

Short, sharp and very funny! Taki understand the psychology of these people very well—and I don’t mean just the neo-cons (which is even more appropriate in French).

Robert Welch lives on indeed in “Clone”. 

If “Clone” isn’t an impostor, then he’s of the same mental sort as those in the late 50s who told us that that Dr. Milton Eisenhower, his brother, and the PTA were Communists. This tactic in fact backfired, awarding Communists public sympathy and respectability which they hardly deserved.

Aware of this tactic’s unintentional result, “Clone” is likely himself a Neocon, playing the role of an impostor, who with intentional fraud (1) slyly equates Real Conservatives with the Browns and (2)makes by absurd slur the Browns look utterly puerile and risible. The result will be that the Neocons themselves will be seen as astute and respectable, and, like the old American Communist Party and the New Left, get lots of recruits.

Let’s take two pages from Melville and call “Clone” Francis X. Goodman; yourselves, don’t be Captain Delano.

“Adriana, I indeed think that you read very well.  (But I can’t keep from asking myself:  what color are those eyes doing the reading?) We are alone in a jungle of bigots, nazis and racists.  Just you and I.  We have each other and that is it.  Little do these browns know that real conservatism is all about political correctness, equality, open borders, white self-hatred, and voting rights for minorities. In these desolate times we need each other.  (But you still haven’t given me your phone number!) Down with the browns!!! Yours always, David Frum Jr.  (aka Sid Cundiff)” - Sid Cundiff Clone

“And Adriana, Since I just had a couple wine coolers, I’ll be even more frank.  When I hear you defending the timeless truths of political correctness against these browns, I feel a burning in my loins that I haven’t felt in a very long time. David Frum Jr.  (aka Sid Cundiff)” - Sid Cundiff Clone

You have to stop.  I’m in public and just lost it laughing.

As Stephen Sondheim said

“Send in the clones”

Mr. Peter RV, both Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI have spoken out against the war in Iraq.  In fact, Justin Raimondo, who runs the antiwar.com website and frequently contributes to the blogs of this website, nominated John Paul II for man of the year because of his opposition to the war.  Unsurprisingly, neither Bush nor American Catholics have paid attention to the Popes.  The disreputable Catholic neo-con Michael Novak, whom John Paul II refused even to see, recently dismissed Pope Benedict as “the spokesman of the European left” because of the Pope’s negative comments about the Iraq war.  Most American Catholics ignore Church teaching and Papal statements whenever it suits them to do so and the same is true of non-Catholics like Bush.

@Kirt

Indeed, the Popes have both denounced that senseless
war. I remember when a Protestant pastor of my acquaintace
went to Washingto to protest the war and I told him,
jokingly.

“So now, you, a Protestant pastor, is going to tell
our Protestant President, that he should do what the
Pope says.  Martin Luther must be turning over in his
grave.”

“once again in the name of God, I ask that an end be brought to this
tragic violence(....)"May the Lord bring forth and sustain makers of
peace!"Pope Benedict XVI May 2007

Peter RV can be forgiven however for not having heard the Pope’s numerous
condemnations of the current war.  In our current “mainstream” press it
gets little or no coverage.  I am reprinting this from an articel by
Jean Conte in Culture Wars about the plight of Christians in Palestine and
Iraq. 

There are 800,000 Christians in Iraq who are being targeted now because it
is believed that they are on the side of the invaders.  Who can fault them in
this belief when the sacred image of the cross is adorned with military
symbols or draped in the flag? 

I am not sure that this persecution of the Iraqi christians, some of the most
ancient orders of the Church, and descendants of Jesus’ original followers, was
not one of the original intentions of the architects of this conflict.

I am sure that if not actually planned it is at least seen as a
happy coincidence that the descendants of the original apostles are being
wiped from the face of the earth.

Just to echo the remarks of “northumbria” above - Taki may have made a few geographical errors, but then again, maybe he meant to suggest that the likes of Kristol might not even realize that Syria has no border with Iran and that the Golan Heights (Israel/Syria border) is locked down by UN troops and has had maybe a handful of incidents in over 30 years (see the excellent Israeli film “The Syrian Bride” to get an idea.)

As for the IRAQI border with Syria, we don’t need a draft to lock it down - with less than 10% of current US manpower in Iraq we could have a virtual human net.  But the neocons don’t care about facts - Joe Lieberman wants the US to blacklist Air France, British Airways, and Alitalia because they fly to Damascus (is he aware they also fly to Tehran?)

The best part of this article is the implicit criticism of Ron Unz, who now publishes the American Conservative.  Unz is like Chuck Hagel:  a liberal globalist.  He may be critical of the implementation of the war in Iraq, but he agrees with the neocons on most other issues (pro-immigration, pro-political correctness, thinks the U.S. should be a proposition nation, et al.).  Unz was vehemently opposed to Proposition 187 in California, and it is only reasonable that under his stewardship the American Conservative will become more of a liberal, globalist rag.

No prizes for guessing what Ron Unz’s ethnic background is.

Mr. Nucci, it is unlikely that there are anywhere close to 800,000 Iraqi Christians in Iraq now.  That was the number at the time of the invasion by the US but most estimates are that anywhere from half to two thirds have since fled the country.  Most of these refugees have gone to Syria, which is the most Christian friendly country of the Middle East.  Christians are permitted complete freedom of religion there including the freedom to proselytize.  This is largely due to the fact that the ruling Baathists are dominated by Alawites, a heretical Moslem sect often referred to by other Moslems as “little Christians” because of their honoring some Christian saints and celebrating some Christian feasts.  Unsurprisingly, the Syrian regime has been targeted for destruction by the US and Israel, who (according to the Syrians) are financing Al Qaeda related terrorist groups to undermine the Baathist regime.

Bede, when did Mr. Unz take over publication of the American Conservative?  I’ve visited the on-line edition and it doesn’t strike me as any different than what it was before.  I haven’t heard of Unz in years but I recall him as somewhat of a hard to classify maverick.  He campaigned successfully for a proposition in California to compel public school instruction in English - a campaign that led to him being demonized by the California liberals, especially the educrats.  I don’t think he should be condemned in advance for taking the AC in a liberal globalist direction when there is as yet no evidence of that.

Kirt, we are in total agreement. You are correct the number was 800,000
at the time of the invasion and these individuals have been forced to
abandon some of the oldest churches in the world and take up residence in
other countries of the middle east.  That they are welcomed in Syria is
indeed a good thing, although now the targets of the war on terror will
shift to Syria.  Harboring christians being obviously a determinate of
a terrorist state.  For all Bush’s talk of being a christian himself he
has not offered a bit of protection to the Iraqi Christians. It is truly
ironic that the neo-cons while paying lip service to Christianity and
Christian values, are strenuously working to destroy it in the middle east.

We now know why Sadaam was such a threat.  It wasn’t that he was harboring
weapons of mass destruction or sponsoring terrorism.  He was doing something
far worse in the minds of the neo-cons.  He was harboring the descendants
of the original followers of Jesus.

Of course this purging of Christians started many years earlier with the
State of Israeal confiscating Christian homes as well as Arab.  At that time
Bethlehem,the birthplace of Christ,was 80% Christian. 
Bethlehem is currently under 30% Christian. 

I just hope that this war on radical Islam is over now.

You know it’s close to the bone when the Hahahaha’s appear en masse!…

TATA

M. Nucci, I assume you meant to say “State of Israel confiscating Christian homes as well as Muslim” and not “State of Israel confiscating Christian homes as well as Arab,” because of course the inhabitants were Arab by ethnicity (caveat for Armenians and other small populations of non-Arabs).

As for Syria absorbing Iraqi refugees, Christian or otherwise, the number is about 1.5 million.  Syria’s population is under 20 million.  This is equivalent to the US absorbing an additional 22 million or so Mexicans over a four year period.  Yet the fact-phobic neocons would have us believe that Syria is the source of Iraq’s woes.

I marvel not one of the commentaters has mentioned Swift, for surely this essay is every bit as good as “A Modest Proposal” which also produced outrage in so many readers before they tumbled to the satirical intent.

It would take a Greek to match an Irishman.

I’m sure the neocons would have no problem boiling a baby or two if it fit their agenda.

Actually, the Israeli state is using American soldiers for its own interests.

Buchanan’s Whose War

http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html

Nothing surprises me. Before anyone here makes a judgement then they should question the issue and make a decision on whether the statement may be true of not. Does the Jewish leadership have an influence on the US? That is obvious. They stand and influence everything from your Hollywood movie and Porn industry to your Capitalistic system (Banking,Financial institutions) of greed to invasions of other nations (Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran) with the support and generous funding of the US.

Should I feel stupid in that I thought this was real?  Not much would surprise me these days.  Not even Osama being caught in a hospital toilet performing a comaphilic (did I just make up a word?) act upon Ariel Sharon.

Rex,

Then you shouldn’t be surprised to find out (as I’m sure will
be revealed) that Bushy and Osama were not only business
partners, but also best buddies. That they had whores
together. That Osama has been to the Crawford, Texas ranch.
That he and Bushy have caught small-mouthed bass together.
That they’ve gotten drunk and sloppy with each other. And
that Laura Bush came thisclose to marrying Osama instead of
Bushy. We will see all this information come to pass, I bet.
Osama, of course, being a Jewish actor currently living in LA.

Well, I cant agree more.

I guess I’m a little late to this party, but if anyone should read this response, I would like to say:

What reads as a spoof, has in fact already happened. America’s soldiers may still wear the red white and blue in parody, but the fact is they are sent off as mercenaries to kill and die in Israel’s wars under Israeli orders.

The ones who die should be sent back draped in the star of David, or buried in Israel with military honors.

“Here lies an American mercenary
Died for Israel”