Ron Paul’s Patriotic Crimethink
The attempt by Congressman Ron Paul of Texas to discuss what happened and why--to account for the 9/11 terrorist attacks--is an enormous breakthrough on the American political landscape. The incident occurred during last week’s Republican “debate” among Presidential hopefuls and was aired live on Fox News from Columbia, South Carolina. This may be the first time that the subject has been broached in a serious, intelligent manner by any U.S. Presidential candidate. Rudy Giuliani saw his opportunity to grandstand, and he jumped on it. He chose to dodge, distort and demagogue the issue. As a result, Giuliani received almost a standing ovation. Not surprising. No politician on the national stage has gone, or wants to go, anywhere near the question of why New York and Washington were attacked on a clear day in September of 2001. Should some honest and frank answers be forthcoming, it would negatively impact their political careers, starting with funding. It is in their own interest, therefore, to keep the public confused and distracted. The easy option is simply to wave the flag. That is what Giuliani did, and that is what Cheney/Bush have done from the start.
As we know, in the years since the 9/11 attacks, Rudy Giuliani has made a fortune off the terrorism business, by consulting with governments and corporations about how to fight it. Well, I guess it’s a living. 9/11 also catapulted Giuliani into the national spotlight. As for Cheney and Bush, “the war on terrorism” has defined their unfortunate co-consulship. You see the results: Total disaster. Neither Cheney nor Bush--and none of the Democrats, who constantly kick Bush in the pants for the war, as if he alone were to blame--has ever given a credible explanation for why we were hit on September 11th, 2001. Aside from the nonsensical reason initially proffered by the White House that the bad guys hate our freedom and democracy, we have been handed next to nothing. To be fair, we have demanded next to nothing. When anyone with intellectual honesty (or simple human curiosity) like Dr. Paul raises questions about this important topic, he is ridiculed and dismissed out of hand by the establishment mountebanks who hold center stage.
Paul seemed to suggest that the 9/11 terrorists may have been motivated by the bombing of Iraq during and after “Operation Desert Storm.” These cruise missile attacks by Washington lasted over ten years, and would be followed in 2003 by a full-scale “pre-emptive” invasion which commenced with “shock and awe” in the skies over Baghdad. Paul did not touch upon the larger and more murderous event--the economic embargo championed by Washington (Bush I, Bill Clinton, and Bush II) and shamefully enforced by the UN Security Council, for which see The Scourging of Iraq by Geoff Simons. (We should never forget Secretary of State Madeleine Albright’s infamous crack by way of response to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children directly caused by the Clinton sanctions: “It’s worth it.” Her remark speaks volumes.) By suggesting a possible connection between Washington’s bombing of Iraq and 9/11, Congressman Paul hit a nerve, but at the same time he ironically lent some credence to the Cheney/Bush/Neocon canard that Saddam was behind the 9/11 terrorist atrocities.
Which begs the question: Isn’t it likely that Dick Cheney and his cabal of “neocon” operatives felt confident that what Washington had done to Iraq in “Desert Storm”--the deliberate wrecking of Iraq’s civilian infrastructure by bombing power plants, factories, and water purification stations, and then in the Clinton years, the comprehensive embargo of vital food and medicines--amounted to a long-standing provocation for Saddam to strike back? Contrary to the befuddled and misinformed American public, as represented by the aforementioned South Carolina audience, the “neocons” knew perfectly well that Iraq had been eviscerated during and after “Desert Storm.” Wolfowitz in particular was obsessed with the idea that Osama bin Laden and his henchmen must have had financial and logistical support from Iraq to execute the 9/11 attacks. To Wolfowitz, knowing the inside story as he did, it made sense.
After all, there had to be motivation from somewhere, a framework of cause and effect. An earth-shattering event like 9/11 does not happen out of the blue. What was the motivation for these attacks on New York and Washington emanating from the Middle East, and what can we learn from the experience? Congressman Ron Paul was attempting to make that point. This is commonsensical stuff. Giuliani chose to feign amazement and outrage, pretending that Paul had said something over the top. It was an act.
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In an outstanding article at the indispensable Antiwar.com, Scott Horton has picked up and run with a remark by Wolfowitz contained in the May 9, 2003 issue of Vanity Fair about how everything is going to be wonderful (according to Wolfowitz) in the wake of the U.S. invasion of Iraq:
“There are a lot of things that are different now… we can now remove almost all of our forces from Saudi Arabia. Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. It’s been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda. In fact if you look at bin Laden, one of his principle grievances was the presence of so-called crusader forces on the holy land, Mecca and Medina. I think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself going to open the door to other positive things.”
Come again? Offhand, can anybody name just one positive thing which has blown through the door left ajar by Wolfowitz’s War? Just one. I’m waiting.
Still, Wolfowitz had a point. The stationing of U.S. ground forces in Saudi Arabia was indeed a “huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda”--just like the American intervention in Iraq is today! How did it come about? When did American troops arrive in Saudi Arabia, and who was responsible for placing them there? This involves the build-up for Gulf War I, “Operation Desert Storm” in 1990-91 under George Bush I. King Fahd of Saudi Arabia had his two arms twisted out of their sockets, figuratively speaking, before he would allow the entry of American soldiers into the Kingdom. Prior to that, Saudi Arabia was a sacrosanct entity, a closed system, and relatively serene.
But then, due to Saddam Hussein’s misperception that he had been given, in effect, a “green light” on July 25th, 1990 by the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, to deal with Kuwait as he saw fit, Saddam invaded and annexed Kuwait on August 2nd. The toppling of the Emir of Kuwait, a fellow petroleum plutocrat and fellow absolute monarch, sent a bad signal to King Fahd. It was a wake-up call that made him nervous. The Saudi King wanted the Iraqi dictator smacked. For whatever contrived reason or cover story, the White House was of the same mind. Fahd was cornered. Secretary of State James A. Baker III stated at the time that Washington’s military and diplomatic response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait had something to do with “Jobs, jobs, jobs.”
In any event, at the end of the day, U.S. combat troops—“crusader forces”—found themselves encamped on the Arabian peninsula for the stated purpose of protecting the custodian of Mecca and Medina, King Fahd, from the alleged Iraqi threat. It is a strange world. To bin Laden, this was an affront to Islam and demeaning both to Saudi Arabia and to the Arab world at large. Did this horrible miscalculation by George Bush I in 1990 ultimately lead to the 9/11 attacks during the reign of his inexperienced, ill-prepared and ill-equipped son, George Bush II, in 2001? There are experts, foremost of whom is Michael Scheuer, the man in charge of the CIA’s bin Laden unit, who put the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia at the top of the list of what sent bin Laden and his acolytes over the edge. For my part, as a non-expert, I wrote in The Unauthorized World Situation Report, published in 2005:
“At the start of this process it probably never occurred to George Bush Sr., and his foreign policy team that they were creating a monster by the way they handled the Kuwait annexation brouhaha. The monster they created was a maniac named Osama bin Laden. This came about due to bin Laden’s close connections with the Saudi royal family and bin Laden’s adverse reaction to King Fahd bin Abdul-Aziz’s decision—forced upon him by Washington—to allow the U.S. Army and Air Force to install themselves inside the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and then stay there indefinitely after Operation Desert Storm had concluded.
“It was apparent to bin Laden--a wealthy young Saudi Islamist just back from fighting with the Mujaheddin volunteers against the Soviets in Afghanistan--and to many other Saudis as well that the House of Saud had devolved into a handy straw man for Washington’s “Superpower” agenda. Thanks to petroleum, corruption, plutocracy and extravagance, King Fahd was a captive ruler. The Kingdom, home to the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Medina, was revealed by the crisis in Kuwait to be incapable of acting on its own and of defending itself, even though it had purchased a hecatomb of modern American weapons. The Kingdom had allowed itself to become a vassal state for the American “infidels”—the same infidels who were in bed with the Zionists occupying Palestine and Jerusalem, wherein was located Islam’s third holiest shrine, Haram al-Sharif.”
In addition to (1) the ongoing immiserization of Iraq caused by U.S.-imposed economic sanctions and the gratuitous destruction of Iraq’s civilian infrastructure during “Operation Desert Storm”, and (2) the perceived insult of “infidel” troops encamped near the Moslem sacred cities of Mecca and Medina during and after “Desert Storm”, there was still more substantial gist for al-Qaeda’s mill, pre-9/11. There was (3) the obvious plight of the Palestinians, with refugees in camps all over the Middle East, to complete the picture, for which Washington was deemed equally responsible.
It is an impossible state of affairs which American foreign policy commentator William Pfaffof International Herald Tribune fame, has termed the “permanent provocation” of the unresolved conflict over Palestine. Pfaff has written that this conflict constitutes for the Arab masses “their chief motive for detesting the United States.” It is the same problem we face today, post 9/11, only it has gotten worse, if that is possible. Thanks to the White House and Capitol Hill, and thanks especially to the Israel Lobby,which has a hammerlock on both, the occupation of Palestine remains ongoing and the ruination of the Palestinians continues unabated. The status quo is enforced by Ariel Sharon’s determined successors, enabled by the “Superpower” co-Consulship of Cheney and Bush, as assisted by their “neocon”, pro-Likud advisors. A strange world, indeed.
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During the days, weeks and months after the 9/11 attacks, the focus in America was on the lack of warning and the failure of the U.S. intelligence community to uncover the plot. The entire affair was viewed solely as a colossal intelligence failure, rather than a foreign policy consequence. The question as to why such dramatic attacks had happened in the first place was not addressed. But on the day of the attacks, where I was, at a roadside tavern in Glencar, Ireland, the subdued talk—aside from shock, bewilderment and sympathy for the innocent victims—centered upon that very question: Why had it happened? And everybody there instinctively knew why—as did every other adult European on the Continent with whom I conversed in the days immediately following. It was only the American public and especially the American news media, who appeared to be in the dark and who studiously avoided the subject.
Perhaps you have heard of an American CIA agent by the name of Robert Baer. He worked for the CIA’s Directorate of Operations for 25 years, with assignments mostly in the Middle East and Europe. He appears on American television from time to time, as a terrorism and Middle East expert. He has written articles for Vanity Fair. He is highly critical of the Saudi Royal family and of its cozy relationship with Washington. He has written two best selling books, See No Evil and Sleeping with the Devil, about his experiences. Some six months after 9/11, I found myself reading an article about Baer in the Sunday Observer of London, dated March 3rd, 2002, and entitled “Bombing Saddam is Ignorance.”
Here was another eccentric character—in the same boat with Marine Colonel Scott Ritter, British Diplomat Carne Ross, U.S. Ambassador John Brady Kiesling, and Senator Robert Byrd—all of whom were very much in the minority, paddling against the tide, in opposition to the Cheney/Bush private-agenda war in the Middle East, and finding it wildly incomprehensible. Baer had been there, on assignment behind the lines, in 1995. To quote the article:
“Robert Baer, the ex-CIA man in Iraq during the failed uprising in 1995, says the U.S. is not in a position to strike against Iraq because it does not understand anything about the country.... Robert Baer’s objections to an attack on Iraq could hardly be principled. As the CIA’s point man in Iraq during the failed uprising in 1995, he encouraged dissident groups to believe that the United State s wanted the overthrow and death of Saddam Hussein. Yet Baer, whose memoir of life in the CIA, See No Evil, is published in Britain tomorrow, is appalled at the idea of a US strike against Iraq today. ‘If the U.S. is to bomb Saddam and his army until there is no army, what comes after that? No one is discussing the ethnic composition of Iraq or what Iran is likely to do.... ‘The US is in no position to rejigger [Iraq] because we don’t understand anything about the country.’”
All perfectly true, as we have learned to our bitter regret.
On the subject of the 9/11 atrocities, it was even more surprising and illuminating to read the following: “After a quarter of century abroad, Baer hardly recognises the States and is appalled at the level of public ignorance. [My emphasis.] ‘There is no debate,’ he says. ‘People will not address the question of Palestine in the context of the World Trade Centre attacks. It’s not in the terms of the discussion. They simply believe that Israel has the right to defend its democracy like the U.S. does. They don’t understand that Israel gives no democratic rights to the Palestinians whatsoever. They don’t see that it’s not a democracy.’” Such was the third pillar of Washington’s Middle East foreign policy, which provided the impetus for the terrorists who targeted the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. In CIA parlance, it was “blowback”—the most gigantic and undeniable example to date. Rien n’arrive par hasard.
Patrick Foy is author of The Unauthorized World Situation Report.
Book cover photo courtesy of New American Library
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“Confronting the threat posed by Iraq is not a distraction from the war on terror; it is absolutely crucial to winning the war on terror.” - Dick Cheney
The President answered:” The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda, because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.”
Bush reiterated that the administration never said that “the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated” between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
President Bush, having repeatedly linked Saddam Hussein to the terrorist organization behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, said yesterday, ”there is no evidence that the deposed Iraqi leader had a hand in those attacks”.
After Four years of war in Iraq, it is now extensively accepted that Iraq or Saddam Hussein never had any relationship with Al-Qaeda nor did Saddam or Iraq have any hand in terrorist attacks on the US soil on 9/11/2001. Yet the US administration has persistently been telling the world and its American constituents that there was a relationship between Iraq and 9/11.
Is this contradictory? Was the US administration flat out untruthful when it insisted on an Iraq and 9/11 relationship?
Parse the US Administrations various statements carefully and it comes out that they were claiming that Iraq had a connection with 9/11 but the Iraq government or Saddam Hussein never really had anything to do with 9/11.
What was that relationship? What was the Iraqi connection with the terrorism on 9/11?
The roots of Gulf War II took shape in Gulf War I. The Iraqi move into Kuwait scared the Saudi Arab regime. The United States, too, saw the opportunity to strengthen its position in the area. Saudis were terrified of the growing Iraqi influence in the area. They sought support and the protection for the House of Saud, and agreed to allow the US army to build bases in Saudi Arabia for protection from the internal or the external threats.
The US attack on Iraq in 1991 was a major media event. Television crews from all over the world descended in the region and beamed the war on television screens all over the world. The Tomahawks and the cruise missiles blasted from the sea flew over the sacred cities in Iraq, dismantling civilian buildings and military infrastructure in Iraq and killing innocent Iraqis. It was a ghastly sight. Planes flying from one sacred land Saudi Arabia, to another suggested to Jihadis that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia too had abandoned Muslims. Betrayal caused despair and Jihadis in Afghanistan and elsewhere called for revenge.
Baghdad was the city where the Muslims and Arabs ruled the world from. It was the symbol of Muslim power and the US attempted to destroy it in 1991. 9/11 was a revenge of Baghdad’s destruction in 1991.
9/11 was meant to replace some symbols. In the first Gulf War, The Tomahawk and cruise missiles were displayed on television with great fanfare all over the world as they flew over Iraq. The US bombers and fighter jets dominated the news and war reports on the television. Those were the symbols of the US military prowess. The US public and International audience saw an awesome display of the US firepower.
The attacks on the morning of 9/11 replaced those symbols with the US-owned planes crashing into the US financial center in the biggest US metropolis and its most fortified federal building in the Capital, killing the US citizens the way the US planes had killed Muslims in Baghdad. Television images now were displaying different emotions and different pictures. Jihadis had inflicted the revenge on the US for destroying and attacking an Arab and a Muslim country in 1991.
The destruction and control of Iraq was essential in shattering the Jihadi spirit and to stop the cycle of revenge let loose after the first Gulf war. Four years later, Iraq’s destruction is almost complete. The obliteration of the US buildings in the United States has been avenged.
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The cycle of revenge is just starting. Our open borders lobby is making sure of that. America is soundbite country. The rest of the world takes a longer view of history.
We will get lots more attacks in the future. A few will be legit attacks, the rest will be false flags like the last one.
Why? Becaues our elite is just like the people who brought the world the so-called French and Russian revolutions. They have been doing this stuff for at least 5000 years.
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Here’s a link to a great letter from Michael F. Scheuer, former Chief of the CIA’s Osama bin Laden Unit, to the editor of Antiwar.com, regarding Congressman Ron Paul’s exchange with Rudy Giuliani about why the al Qaeda network has targeted the United States.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05/22/fmr-chief-of-cia-osama-unit-why-they-attack-us/
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This article is spot on but a bit too long and loses its focus...... “why was the US bombed?”
No, not because of Saddam Hussain for sure, he had absolutely nothing to do with it and US retaliation was the last thing he wanted! That is why he voluntarily dumped all his WMD’s and had nothing to do with Al Quaeda.
Yes, because of US troops in KSA because that is where Osama bin L comes from and Osama bombed the USA as it happens.
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Well, I’m coming to the conclusion that there is no
“War on Terror”...there is only the US occupying a
foreign land for some very selfish, and UnAmerican
reasons--namely OIL and Israel. And it’s creating the
very blowback that Pat Buchanan warned us about only
a couple of years before 911.
It’s really just playing into the hands of the neo-cons
and the AIPAC to talk about the “war on terror”.
Ron Paul’s response to the AIPAC pimp, Guiliani, was
fumbling, but he gained momentum, and I’m sure he
would have scored some hits on Guiliani if the debate
was allowed to continue.
The US has legitimate strategic interests in the mideast
such as keeping Europe and China from interfering if we
were not around. And as much as I hate to admit it, the
US economy is centered around the petro-dollar, and
how it props up our spending and trade deficits. But
what we are doing in the mideast, in military interventionism
and subservience to Israel undermines these interests.
The US economic dependence on Mideast oil is a big problem.
The US Congress’ dependence on AIPAC just makes this
problem worse.
“Conservatives” need to forget this free market
fundamentalist nonsense, and admit that the only form
of capitalism that works is state capitalism, and get
to work freeing the US from oil dependence, and freeing
the congress (especially the Democrats) from AIPAC
money.
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It’s still hogwash. They were funded and trained by the CIA.
Who stands to gain? 9/11 wasn’t a backlash. It was an
inside job through and through - Saudi royals, English
Royalists and those in the US still loyal to the Crown and
some people in the Jewish community who want to restore
the Davidic kingdom. The aim of them all is to kill off
democracy and constitutional rule of law/liberties in all our respective societies.
The oil is just a bonus.
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It is edifying to see the number of folks that have
made the Israeli connection to the mess that is
American foreign policy. It is not so thrilling to
realize that the general public hasn’t grasped the
shift, indeed the duplicity, of the Israeli-american
community as it plays the Republicans, their new
friends, against the Democrats, to force either, or
both, to go beyond what prudence would dictate in
support of Israel. In the long run, it will destroy
Israel, of course, but how many really perceive that
this will happen. Bloated with the stolen power of a
far greater nation, Israel continues to reject
reality, seeing only the immediate gain, and not
recognising the long term consequences. There will be
no “backlash” of the kind seen in Germany between the
two world wars, against American Jews. America is not
nearly so literate as to be easily led into a “cause
and effect” reasoning needed to justify such horror.
Luckily, American Ignorance may work to salvage
American honor, at least in its treatment of a
recalcitrant, greedy Minority. As regards the rest of
the Middle East, America is without Honor.
However, the cronyism practiced by the american-
Israeli community, (small “a” intentional), is seeing
its last and greatest days. As mentioned above, I do
not believe that anything like a “holocaust” will be
forthcoming, but there are other punishments in store
for this group, many of whom are innocent, at least in
their own eyes, of wrongdoing, except perhaps for
failing to rein in the “zealots” who have throughout
her long history been the bane of Israel. However,
sympathy for Israel, and for those of the Diaspora,
will be in very short supply indeed, in the future
United States, and the West in generas. And, since
the great historical protectors of the Jews have been
the Muslims, to where will they, the Jews, turn for
protection? To their little Atomic Arsenal? It is
to laugh. Not all its great arsenal could save the
USSR, nor that of the US able to win a single small
“war” against a shattered enemy. Nay. Israel will be
a small, poor pariah state, despised by everyone,
hated most of all by their fellow Semites, and she
will need decades, if not generations, to win a
modicum of respect in an unforgiving world. Such is
Justice, and not all the phony writings of pseudo-
historians will be able to deny the truth of the case.
The greatest pity is that it did not have to
happen. Israel could have been a light to her Semitic
brethren, much as the Parsees were to their Aryan kin
in their great diaspora. Still, Truth will out, as
will Justice, “though the Heavens fall”.
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Foy overlooks the influence of the Protestant Fundamentalists, who support Israel because it is necessary for their End Times fantasies. Christian Fundamentalists are far more powerful in the Bush Administration than Israelis.
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Joe Populist says:
“the only form
of capitalism that works is state capitalism,”.
Joe Populist should refer to state capitalism by its more recognizable name: Fascism. Fascism “works” only for a handful of people in the nation victimized by that system, and only for a short while. It ends, as all forms of collectivist government always end; in mass graves, the despoilation from an inevitable war and citizen subjugation, and in total economic desolation for the subject population.
If you intend to promote such deadly nonsense, “Mr. Joe Populist”, you should have the courage to use your real name.
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Good, thorough and thoughtful article. What may be important is the reiteration of what many know is now clearer, and it is good to be reminded of severe world political problems.
So, Foy perceives the future and it looks to be an honest perception. So, what can we do to start addressing such a potentially sad future? Start a third party with no ties to foreign countries other than friendship (It’s been done in the past). Ron Paul for president.
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We Resolved Our
Civil War In 1865
Only the Iraqi People (Not Our Troops) Can Resolve Their Civil War in 2007
General David Petraeus Said, The Top U.S. Commander in Iraq, Depicted the Situation There as “Exceedingly Complex and Very Tough” and Said the U.S. Effort “Might Become More Difficult Before It Gets Easier”
To General David Petraeus & Congress: It’s Not Complex At All! It’s Very, Very Simple!
Simple Fact #1 The Bush/Cheney Administration Invades Iraq Based On Lies and Profit, Installs a Democracy With Bullets & Bombs! Creates an (Oil Rich) Shia Controlled Iraqi Government, Which Will Force 6 Million (Oil Empty) Sunnis To Choose Between Eating Sand or Setting Bombs!
Simple Fact #2 Al-Qaeda and The People in the Middle East Do Not Hate Americans; Do Not Hate Our Freedoms, But They Do Hate, Very Much, Unfair U.S. Government Policies, Including Having Our Christian Coalition Troops Marching On Their Sacred Muslim Land – Be It U.S. Troops or Soviet Troops!
To: General David Petraeus & Congress: It’s Not Tough! It’s Mission Impossible!
Simple Fact #3 There Can Be and Will Be No End To The Civil War(s) in Iraq Until All U.S. Troops Are Removed From Iraq Because the U.S. Military Presence Delegitimizes Any Outcome! To Come To an Understanding of How Wealth and Power in Iraq Will be Shared, The Political Forces There Must Measure Their Relative Capacity and Will!
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You falsely accused Paul of not mentioning sactions
imposed on Iraq. He certainly did in the last debate.
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I’ve always been supportive of Rudy Giuliani, mainly for the the job he did in reviving NYC. But recently something just struck me that gave me cause for doubts--and it has to do with the mysterious plane--looked like a C-130--that used to frequently fly down the Hudson river at perilously low levels rattling everybody’s nerves. This was prior to 9/11 and we all concluded it was a government doing some sort of surveying. But last week as I stood watching the helicopters land and takeoff at the downtown heliport of the river (which which would have been about 500-600 yards from the demolished twin towers)it suddenly occured to me that they would have had to been some sort of coordination between the plane and the heliport to allow it to fly down the river in the copters traffic. Many people now are connecting the plane with the distruction of the towers (a practice run by the persons who brought down the towers. But this was during the mayoral tenure of Giuliani, so somebody in his administration would have had to known about that plane, as I understood there were many complaints. Was Giulini complicit in this act. I don’t know. Take your guest.
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I’m sorry but too many people here think that it was possible for ANY middle eastern organization of ANY size and sophistication to have US air defense forces stand down during the attacks. How on Earth can you assume that an outside foreign force was responsible for ANY actions that occurred in Sept. of 2001? Frankly I believe without reserve that such was and is an impossibility. It’s like asking me to believe the single shooter theory in the JFK killing. I’m sorry, there’s just no way!
Compound this with the Electron Microscopy and Electron Microprobe analysis of the soil and debris samples from the WTC location that emphatically proves the presence of Thermate and the results of a thermite/thermate reaction having taken place. Such chemical based metallurgy reactions are used primarily to quickly cut through very thick steel. There wasn’t enough time for black-smoke fires to de any significant damage to the steel structures.
These two points alone (the standing down of the air space defenses and the DNA-like evidence of chemical composites found at the scene of the crime) are enough to prove the innocence of any and all outside forces perpetrating the 9/11 crimes.
This would seem to infer that the “rabbit hole” goes even further and deeper than independent Saudi/Iraqi/Osamma revenge for 9/11 . Setting up that thermite, placing the explosives (if any), coordinating two high-speed jet plane collisions with very narrow targets, and getting the US air defenses to stand down almost certainly would require insider control and oversight.
So those who would assume that 9/11 was an act of revenge for Bagdad and was planned and executed from and by outside forces are IMO assuming incorrectly. At the very least there were criminal elements present at the US Pentagon, several US military bases, and on the ground in NY City on that fateful day.
As a result I believe it’s impossible to determine this as being a US-Criminal+Arab revenge operation or yet another false-flag operation carried out in order to invade a sovereign country, gain control of it’s resources, and further US strategic placement on the map around and concerning China. But almost certianly and by definition must be one of the two or perhapps a mixture of the two.
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Mr. Foy has written an exceedingly important article vindicating Congressman Ron Paul’s cogent remarks during the recently televised debates among Republican presidential wannabees. I hope Mr. Paul obtains the Republican nomination, because he is the only man on the political horizon who has the grit to tell it like it is. This candor is a much needed antidote to the poison secreted from self-serving mouths such as George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Rudy Giuliani. If America is to get back on track, it will need doses of hard truth.
In Joe Populist’s comment he claims that American economic dependence upon Mideast oil is a big problem. U.S. oil imports from Mideast suppliers amount to only 15% of total supplies. So, its not really a big problem. Two-thirds of America’s oil supply comes from North and South America.
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America is in denial about this incredibly rogue demonically evil cancerous disease that has been spread over its 300 million souls due to a rigged election in 2000 that has seen a once healthy thriving nation punished to the core for allowing this to occur and then putting IT back in office for 4 more years to continue the deadly destruction of every facet of its society. Yes Bush son of Satan is in denial but that is the fasade of the murdering liar from the depths of hell pretending to be innocent and pure while this wolf in sheepskin diliberately decieves in order to continue his massacure of those victims in his path using the US military and trillions of taxes. America is in denial that it has been catastrophically and psychologically consumed by this evil satanic being in the White House and anyone who dosent believe this nation is under a terrible curse from the almighty is proving this denial state.
Make no mistake. The messiah clearly made reference to whom he called the children of satan who do the work of their father in hell and are liars and murderers like him and the originator of these vices.
We know who this evil little grimlin in the White House was following and we know he and the children of zionic hell fire were behind the destruction of the WTC and all subsequent events using lies and confusion to bob weave and deflect with smoke and mirrors until the end.
America better get out of this denial. The devil in the White House will not stop until America is destroyed. The curse will not be lifted until action is taken to remove this plague and his zionist satanic children.
America is under the curse of evil death and mayhem under the GOP and any Dem who pays homage to the AIPAC zionist satanics. Remove the evil cancerous disease from the WH immediately before its too late.
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a group of 757 and 767 pilots got togeether 9-11 pilots for truth, as they are called and stated that it was impossible for anyone including themselves to have flown a 767 the way that hani hanjour was supposed to have flown into the pentagon hani hanjours flight instructor stated that he not only could not fly a cessna but he also found it hard to believe that he could even drive an automobile
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Max Cadenhead’s comments are only too accurate. Thankfully there are a few citizens who “get it.” And may Patrick Foy (and Ron Paul for that matter) keep up the good work, tough as it may be to bring the truth to a people who are either too lazy or too ignorant to recognize it.
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Glad I read this. I was unfamiliar with your work but anyone willing to do such a detailed analysis without leaving out the Israel Lobby (as so many do) is worth continuing to follow. Great comments by-and-large as well.
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This is all well and good but the problem goes back
at least a hundred years. American triumphalism
did not start with the
neocons, it stared with Teddy Roosevelt and his
so called “rough riders” and
the “pioneer experience” among other
things. Such habits die hard. It
will take something major to change all that.
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The reason it’s possible for so many politicians to live/operate under a false pretext (lie) is that most people want to believe them. I don’t know how we will ever convince the mainstream not to support/follow the politicians as a class. And show them, they can’t just start with the assumption that everyone is just doing what they think is right, therefore the only sensible thing to do is to find the middle ground.
Any compromise between good and evil is evil. Any compromise between a man and his murders is disastrous. One should never support anyone who is obviously not principled, or self aware.
I am very glad to have read this article. Good Stuff.
After WWI many authors such as Hemingway were successful in convincing Americans that the previous foreign excursions we had involved ourselves in had been blunders, or counterproductive to the country. The American people were all set not to get involved in WWII even as the Nazi’s took over Europe. Pearl Harbor, and Roosevelt had convinced everyone that America had previously been an Isolationist country. They had taken our brief attempt to return to non-interventionism after WWI, put it in a vacuum. No realization that we had helped to create the circumstances under which the Nazi’s could thrive. The war effort, along with the Treaty of Versailles, had crippled the German economy.
We must be vigilant, even if we achieve a temporary return to sanity, we will still have these problems as long as there are men who desire power. Politics is not the art of blending the possible with the prudent. It is a game of deception, rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies - making it look like an effort to save humanity from itself.
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“In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a universal act.” -George Orwell
What better description of Ron Paul and the
current political climate in America?
Also…
“When a people accept futility and the absurd
as normal, the culture is decadent.” -Jaques Barzun
Fair description of American culture, I’d say.
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Will Ron Paul & Rudy Giuliani Debate Foreign Policy at Freedomfest?
The annual FreedomFest conference, has issued a debate invitation to GOP Presidential candidates Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul to use FreedomFest ‘07 as a debate venue to further explore their fundamental differences in foreign policy and the war in Iraq that were highlighted in the Columbia, SC debate. To review the debate invitation - http://www.freedomfest.com/debate.htm
For more information on the July 2007 FreedomFest Conference in Las Vegas, go to
http://www.freedomfest.com
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One positive thing did come from the Iraq invasion - the genocide of the Kurds has stopped and they are apparently doing well as a semi-autonomous region.
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I agree completely. All US soldiers must go home immediately so that peace loving muslims can establish the global caliphate as described in the book. It’s only a matter of time before it happens so why fight the inevitable? Either live in decadence and debauchery while we slowly bring infidels to enlightenment one explosion at a time, or surrender (the meaning of Islam) and allow a mullah to stamp out all the problems with homosexuality, disobedient women, nudity, alcohol/drug use, inappropriate fashions, sexual promiscuity, and immoral art and literature.
Bush is a wild eyed radical out to remake the world on the basis of self determination and tolerence of religions other than the one true faith. That cannot be tolerated and must be resisted no matter how many people we must kill.
If even one American soldier is injured or disheartened by an event that is inspired or encouraged by our support through articles like this, we are serving Allah.
Allahu Akbar
الله أَكْبَر
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