The examples Mr. Weyrich gives via Bill O’Reilly are hardly representative of DKos bloggers--which number in the thousands. Anyone who regularly checks in on DKos finds a plethora of boring statist--sometimes Christian--claptrap suitable for Republican consumption.  Occasionally there are some gems, usually a personal account of an experience with government nitwittery.  Mainly, however, KOSacks just don’t like Bush and his minions. Who does? There is no substantial difference between the Republican and Democrat parties. They are both pro-war and pro-state.  Neither deserve the least bit of respect. If Mr. Weyrich finds the picture of Cheney “disturbing” then he needs to get out and about town more.

daily kos as many other bloggers are fighting fascists, like O’reilly.
Good for them.
The crap you posted about kos comment section i can find everyday in the thousands from the comment section on almost any bushtard’s blogs

A blog is not the same as a news outlet. Just take a
look at some of the comments in some other blogs, even
this.  At least you do not have Nigerian letters or
ED remedies posts.

As for wanting to kill Cheney, well, I agree, but only
after a fair trial, of course, and with the proper
ceremony.

Bill Clinton a moderate?  Odd that there is no mention
in this column of his burning innocent men, women and
children alive.

Well, if KOS stands for what Weyrich claims it does, then I am all for it. Wishing Cheney’s death ? I thought that had become concensus long time ago.
Paul Weyrich risks becoming a laughing stock of the blog.

Kudos to Weyrich! Finally someone else around here knows that there is evil elsewhere than just Neocon: Cultural Marxist evil. Now there are two of us.  It’s also greater evil, and, with the Neocons about to do exeunt omnes, it will be the evil of the future.

Bigger kudos to brmerrick who hasn’t forgotten Waco.  Now there are two of us with respect to this too!

I’m beginning to feel right at home!

I told ya so.

What Cassandra sees as new evil is what I see as the swarm abandoning a sinking neo-con ship for what they see as the new host body to feed on.  Unfortunately that body will no doubt remain the American people.

Neo-conservatism is simply a specific type of cultural Marxism - currently the most aggressive type.

Peter:

As to Cheney, this is good time to quote
a Spanish intellectual who after hearing shouts
of “So-and-so up against the wall” he commented.

“I do not beleive in bloodshedding. The gallows
should be enough”

mr wyrichs columns are always challenging for me, an often left leaning libertarian.  I have to say i am baffled once again.  The DLC are the type of democrats routinely railed against in blogs like this one.  the epitome of the out of touch beltway machine coctail party set, rivaling even the neo cons in obnoxious metro sexual shmoozary.  It was only when democrats abondoned them in favor of the Howard Dean, Jim Webb /netroots liberalism that they got a significant victory.  and defnding a bush adminstration shill lke Bill oreilly in 2007 borders on the ridiculous.  poitically incorrect jokes about the government is a bad thing?  It’s as old as politics itself

Aside from his socialism, Kos also seems to have a heathy fear of strong central government and what it can do to its citizens.  I get the impression that Kos has not worked out the conflict between his view that the state should be the benefactor of everybody and everything, and the historical evidence about the dangers of strong governments.  This conflict is something libertarians/ conservatives can build on—i.e., exchange of ideas seems a better option than harsh rejection.

As to Kos opening his site to people who express weird/ disgusting ideas, isn’t that what freedom of speech is all about?
The Daily Kos is an example of the communications revolution brought about by the net:  ordinary Americans can now get their views heard.  If what you see looks frightening, that shows there has been something seriously wrong in the way Americans have been educated for the last few decades.  Kos is a symptom, not a cause.  Censoring his site is like taking a pain-reliever when your appendix is about to fail.

Quixotic ought to mean not just “unrealistic expectations” but also, faithful to the text, nearsightedness.  Aside from a political taxonomy which sees Moors for sheep, M. Nucci and Kirt Higdon are mistaken, and sadly so, if they think that in assaulting the windmill of Neoconservatism, they are assaulting the giant La Susan and her assorted camp followers of Cultural Marxism. Two years from this very day, with Nurse Ratched’s 100 Days behind us, Mr. Nucci and Mr. Higdon – should they be permitted to post anything at all from their cell in the Nurse’s Supermax, or even if websites such as this can only get out their message the Sophie Scholl way – will, hat in hand, tell us all

“She told us so.”

“La Susan” = Susan Estrich “the mouth that ate your television” and the hunting dog expert. Soon to be the Nurse’s Rove.

The 11th commandment of the Kos blog seems to be “never speak ill of a fellow democrat”. I have very little use for what goes on there, and have noticed that their interest in Iraq is primarily in how to frame it as a talking point for 2008, which I think is absolutely unconscionable.

Of course, O’Reilly has shown himself to be nothing more than a tool for the powers that be, and, in my opinion is on a similarly low moral footing.

The Kos wing of the Democratic party is the mirror image of the neocon-dominated GOP. No better, no worse. It’s a community based on the presupposition that all who disagree are evil, and that all who agree do so with pure motives. What makes it worse is that they are agreeing on is police-state socialism.

All constitutional conservatives are obliged to speak up against garbage like Kos and O’Reilly without any respect to the partisan considerations. Socialism and total-war empire-building are wrong, and their wrongness runs much deeper than red and blue.

I agree with Paul that the picture of Liebermann with Bush was upsetting. But only because the roles of the two were inadvertantly reversed.
I had the unfortunate “pleasure” to share a flight with Mr. Liebermann from L.A. to D.C.. I have never met a more arrogant and cold person than pious Joe. Full of hybris, he considers himself not a “servant” to the people, but rather their “master”. Maybe he thinks only members of his tribe as worthy of his consideration.

dave- he’d make a great communist.  pro war , pro high taxes, wnats government to regulate video games and ban the howard stern radio show (or he did in 2000) and throw in open borders, late trimester abortion and stem cells just in case there is any of the original christian character of the US left.

“Aside from his socialism, Kos also seems to have a heathy fear of strong central government and what it can do to its citizens.”

Aside from his murder of 20 million Russians, Stalin had a healthy fear of violence.

My how they come out from under the rocks when someone points out the evil on the Left.

To my knowledge, Stalin did not have a healthy fear of violence.  Rather he regarded exterminating large numbers of people as necessary for creating an ideal, classless society.  So far I have not seen Kos advocate this approach.

You might want to consider the possibility that there are significant differences between people who call themselves leftists.

While I’ll agree with the comment above that there are many significant differences among those who self-identify as leftists, it’s important to note that the Kos leftists are pretty unashamed class-warriors. No, you will not read any calls to exterminate the kulaks, but you certainly will notice that everything is laid out along class lines, and the hegelian dialectic of class warfare always ends in oppression.

Independent leftists have many qualities to reccomend them, but the mainstream netroots people really have no interest other than mainstreaming big-government social control.

Not Weyrick again. Does Taki know this guy’s background? Weyrick is one of the neo con leadership’s pet conservatives. He has, until VERY recently been a big supporter of the fiasco in Iraq. Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that Weyrick actually believes that the readers of this site would share his high esteem for the opinions of Bill (Loofa) O’Reilly, who is probably the most visible supporter of Bush’s mideast misadventures as well as Bush’s assaults on The Constitution.

Who next will appear as a columnist on this site, Scooter Libby? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell’s ghost?

I too find it strange that Weyrick condemns
**anyone** on the basis of O’Reilly’s testimony.

I would not hang a dog on Bill’s word, much less
a person or political group.

Mr. Weyrick, find a more credible witness, and then
we’ll talk.

So leftists talk about class warfare?

What about the ones who instead of talking about
class warfare carry it out? The ones who use
cheap inmigration and outsourcing to drive down
wages?  When Lou Dobbs talks about the warn on the
Middle Class, he does not refer to leftists.

And if there is class warfare being carried out right
now, why should’t this be talked about?

I find it odd that the same people who whine that candidates would meet with Kos, have no problem that the GOPers bow to Rush.  Rush who, among idiocies, calls women with feminist views “Nazis” and made disgusting remarks about a 12 year old Chelsea Clinton that are far more disturbing than the goofy picture noted by Mr Weyrich.

Unlike the Kos site, those comments were not made by some blogger, but rather they were made directly by the person with whom the likes of Cheney meets on a regular basis.

A socialist is a communist without guns (or guts). The are content that others murder the Kulaks, as long as a share of the spoils is distributed in their direction.

I thought the type of liberal crudulity displayed on this thread was exausted by FDR’s attitude kowtowing to “Uncle Joe.”

@tony

To what do you object?

That we do not want to take Bill O’Reilly’s word? Why?
Do you find him a credible witness?

That we are more lax in judging blogs than news
organizations or official spokespersons?

That we find that sometimes we may agree with people
in the Left, and that they might raise valid points that
we may have overlooked? That we might consider that
some of them would have been conservatives if the
conservatism they met had not offended their moral
sensibilities and did not know any credible
alternatives?

That we find hypocritial to condment class warfare in
words and to conduct it in deeds? Are you in favor
of unrestricted inmigration to drive down wages? Are
you in favor of outsourcidng to cut labor costs?

Please explain

“He has, until VERY recently been a big supporter of the fiasco in Iraq.” Mr. Falconer, I believe you are wrong about that. Mr. Weyrich is one of the least neocon of the beltway conservative movement leaders. Did you read his “Next Conservatism” series? It was very paleoesq. He is still a political pragmatist and is still wedded to the GOP, but he is no neocon.

“Aside from his socialism, Kos also seems to have a heathy fear of strong central government and what it can do to its citizens.”

Adriana,
I object to the bald-faced idiocy and glaring self-contradiction resident in the above statement.

I object to anyone who attemtps to white-wash evil (whether it resides in the arrogance of neo-con hubris or the self-serving mendacity of the left).

And what on earth does Bill O’R have to do with anything other than TV ratings?

t

Bill O’Reilly is invoqued because Mr. Weyrich brought
him in as witness for the prosecution in his diatribe
against the blog, and many of us do not consider him
a reliable witness.

Since you launched on a diatribe without explianing
what riled you, I had to pin you down. Next time be
more specific.

As for the statement that you find infuriating, you
might consider it as evidence of the confusion that
is in their minds, a confusion which, if they are
properly enlightened will make them see where is their
true home. 

You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
and you can get more results is you assume that,
in the absence of evidence to the contrary, those who
disagree with you may do so out of incomplete knowlded
and confusion rathern than evil (and consider that
sometimes you are the one with incomplete knowledge).

The DLC has promoted an interventionist foreign
policy, open borders, free trade & the cheap labor
philosophy that is ruining the country. They
represent the worst in American politics.