The Rothschilds, Opus One, and Opus Dei
If there’s one thing that makes people happier than finding a forgotten bottle in the cupboard or a six pack in the fridge, it’s finding out that world events are dominated by an evil conspiracy. It’s hard to explain why such a discovery proves so consoling, but it does: Some 35 million people shelled out cold, hard cash to buy The DaVinci Code—most of them Christians, eager to read a tale which portrayed their entire religion as a scam cooked up by a Roman emperor and perpetuated by a spectral order of murderous, albino monks. Clearly, they were not picking up this book because it depressed them. Such books give readers the free and easy feeling that they needn’t lift a finger to change the world—it’s all so futile anyway. (“What can you and I hope to do, against the likes of… Them? So let’s go rent Jackass again.”)
At the same time, however, there’s a gnostic thrill that comes with finding out sordid secrets, the feeling that you are now privy to the seamy underside of life, one of only 35 million or so “insiders” who know the score. As you come across bits of supporting evidence, it’s fun to forward them to skeptical friends, with snarky commentary like: “Oh, and I suppose this is a coincidence?”
In the past it was Jews, Jesuits, Masons, or Communists who bore the brunt of suspicion—though sometimes (somehow) it might be all of them at once. The Nazis persecuted all of these groups—perhaps, as evil conspirators themselves, they wanted to pre-empt the competition.
In subsequent decades, other groups have sometimes come in for blame in one place or another. Sometimes a grain of truth in one allegation was built up into a mock-pearl of great price: For instance, the fact that some American Communists at once worked for civil rights and spied for Joseph Stalin gave J. Edgar Hoover the license he needed to spy on a broad array of civil rights leaders. This author grew up hearing from his mother extensive warnings about the “secret Soviet plot to seed Catholic seminaries with Communists.” One evening, when he brought a girl home for Thanksgiving, his mother regaled them both with a long lecture on why African-American panhandlers should never be given money. As Mère Zmirak explained:
“I heard this from an FBI agent on television—she was a colored woman herself. And she worked for J. Edgar Hoover. She said it doesn’t matter if the beggar is dressed as a priest or a nun… don’t give them a dime. Because they are all, all raising money to buy guns and ammo for the Race War.”
(Only slightly more awkward was his attempt to take his mother along with some friends through New York’s Chinatown. She refused to get out of the car, averring simply. “I haven’t trusted THOSE people since Pearl Harbor.”)
An awkward dinner. The turkey was dry.
Such theories are thankfully less respectable today. Instead, the focus of suspicion has shifted to the likes of Opus Dei. A Spanish apostolate founded in 1928 in Spain by Rev. Josemaria Escriva, Opus Dei hearkened back to the theology of St. Benedict, incorporating spirituality in one’s everyday life and work. Having seen the effectiveness of Masonic groups in attracting people and working together—even grown boys love a secret—Escriva decided to cloak the group in a bit of mystery. His constitutions for the group ask initiates to “always maintain prudent silence about the names of other members, and not to reveal to anyone that you belong to Opus Dei.” Such practices have fired the imaginations of critics ever since, as has the group’s success in attracting highly educated and successful members. What is worse, the organization doggedly upholds traditional Catholic teaching, and some of its members still employ old-fashioned penances, like flagellation. All this seems terribly unwholesome to outsiders, who darkly suspect that the practice is not meant to generate sexual pleasure. It’s all so sick….
DaVinci Code typist Dan Brown chose Opus Dei as the villain of his novel, rightly guessing that modern readers would thrill to read of the evil machinations of a secretive, well-funded group from Spain — Inquisitionland! — which carried on doctrines and customs that can only be described as “medieval.” Even better if the truth these conspirators sought to suppress was that Jesus Christ was not really the founder of a Church, but merely a misunderstood male feminist, a soccer dad, who was always supportive of his life-partner’s career—in this case, as the embodiment of the Divine Feminine. It all worked wonderfully, to the point where Brown achieved the closest thing to canonization available to the living: Tom Hanks starred in the movie. To your average multiplex moviegoer, that’s like making a film about the Bible where Jesus plays Himself.
Intriguing theories about Opus Dei aren’t limited to readers who revise their religious beliefs based on novels they read while “going Greyhound.” A cottage industry has grown up around the group, spinning ever more elaborate and sinister webs of intrigue around these shadowy Spaniards. If you troll the Internet for half an hour, you can turn up some amazing revelations about the group.
For instance, according to Web reporter Wayne Madsen, who claims to be a former NSA analyst, Opus Dei is a “shadowy and sinister Roman Catholic group [that is] running an espionage and political assassination team in the United States.” (One that apparently can’t shoot straight enough to hit Dan Brown, but never mind.)
In the book Their Kingdom Come: Inside the Secret World of Opus Dei, British journalist Robert Hutchison calls Opus Dei “a Mafia shrouded in white.” He asserts that the group assigns its members to infiltrate intelligence agencies, newspapers, banks and political parties, and cultivate connections with organized crime. This power, once amassed, will be used to stifle reform within the Church and provoke a confrontation with Islam that would culminate in a revival of the Crusades. Nice work, if you can get it.
Nor are Moslems the only target. The Opus Dei menace is homing in on gay wedding planners, according to blogger Bob Geiger, of Democrats.com. In the article “Is Brownback Bringing Opus Dei Into The Senate?”, Geiger slams the Catholic convert senator for opposing same-sex marriage with arguments drawn from the Princeton University-based Witherspoon Institute. That group, according to Geiger, is
“linked to Opus Dei, a strict, religious group that some former members have described as a cult…. [C]ritics in academia—which include former members who sometimes go through ‘deprogramming’ upon exiting Opus Dei—charge that organizations like the Witherspoon Institute are just veiled attempts by Opus Dei to spread its influence in top-tier academic circles.”
A thinktank trying to exert influence by giving money to professors and sending out press releases…. Will these monsters stop at nothing?
Another resolute critic of Opus Dei is Miguel de Portugal, a self-proclaimed visionary who makes it his life work to spread apocalyptic warnings over the Internet. Among his claims is that Opus Dei is at once backing pro-life neo-Nazis in Argentina and selling abortifacients in Spain, infiltrating the FBI to cover up its involvement in the Anthrax attacks and smuggling massive quantities of ganja. And one more thing: Remember when Pope John Paul II canonized Opus Dei founder Rev. Josemaria Escriva? To most of us, that was like all such canonizations an exercise of papal infallibility. To Miguel de Portugal it was in fact the “abomination of desolation” warned of in the Apocalypse. Just in case, you know, you were wondering.
(Okay, the FBI part might be true: Two O.D. members include former FBI director Louis Freeh, and current jailbird Robert Hansen—who used the money he got from his Soviet spymasters to pay tuition for his daughters at the Opus Dei school Oakcrest in Virginia. I used to date a graduate who knew the Hansen family. She assured me that Oakcrest no longer gives discounts to parents who pay in rubles.)
Nor is the world of wine immune to the many-tentacled reach of global conspiracies. While it’s true that octopuses cannot survive on land, and rarely appear in vineyards, that does not mean that winemakers are safe. Witness the tangle of accusations that surround the vintner Robert Mondavi. A Stanford graduate with a business head, Mondavi came from a long line of Italian winemakers, and in 1966 established his own winery in Napa Valley. Unlike most of his competitors, he sold his wine by variety (such as Sauvignon Blanc) rather than simply labeling it by region (such as Napa). He also strove to raise the standards of California wines to equal or rival European brands. Mondavi’s innovations proved so successful that he was soon able to buy up some of his rivals, and prevail in blind-taste test competitions against the finest imports from France.
Indeed, the wines produced by Mondavi and his imitators have begun to displace the products of ancient family vineyards in France and Italy—to the outrage of traditionalists. In fine American fashion, the Mondavi winery makes use of high-tech techniques and consultants to turn out wines that suit the tastes of influential critics like Wine Spectator’s Robert Parker —whose 100-point wine ratings get prominent play in wine shops, and can make or break a vintage. Such wines can best be described as “big,” with potent flavors and lots of “fruit.” Indeed, the most overwhelming of these wines are sometimes ridiculed by cognoscenti as “fruit bombs.” It was wines like this, recommended by critics such as Parker, which won most Americans away from drinking Mateus and great big jugs of Ernest & Julio Gallo.
But that doesn’t mollify some critics. As New York Times food critic Eric Asimov has written (May 20, 2006):
“Parker’s critics have asserted that his power is so great, and his taste so monochromatic, with a preference for powerfully concentrated fruity wines, that some producers around the world feel compelled to customize their wines for his palate. These “Parkerized” wines have proliferated, they say, and as a result wines from all over the world, made from different traditions and from different grapes, taste the same.”
Instead of big, obvious tastes created with the help of chemists, some wine aficionados prefer the subtle, complex flavor acquired by wines made in the traditional way, where the taste is redolent not of expertise but of the sun, soil, and shade that attended the earth where the grapes were grown. They worry that the prevalence of a narrow set of tastes will homogenize the variegated wines of the world, and reduce the ancient art of wine-making to yet another scientific field dominated by Americans—who will promptly get bored and outsource the entire industry to China.
As critic James Bowman writes (The American Spectator, May 31, 2005), a number of these wine activists have embraced conspiracy theories, suggesting that winemakers like Mondavi and critics like Parker work hand in hand, forming an axis of oenophiles to extend their domination across the wineries of the world. In the otherwise excellent 2005 documentary Mondavino, Bowman finds a troubling political undertone:
“That the Mondavis’ conspiracy against the world’s wines is linked to the grand unified conspiracy theories of the left is sufficiently attested to by the fact that both Parker and the representative of the Rothschild winery of Bordeaux which is collaborating with the Mondavis on the their up-market, Opus One, brand have the same photo of Ronald Reagan holding up a glass of wine prominently displayed in the room where they are interviewed. “
Here at last we find the smudgy fingerprints of conspiracy: The Rothschilds are involved. This family, which first acquired its wealth serving as the bankers to royalty, is perhaps the single most abused bloodline in Europe. Anti-Semites and Marxists alike could come together in hating this family; the former because they are Jewish, the latter because they helped keep monarchies afloat. Indeed, as Hannah Arendt pointed out in The Origins of Totalitarianism, the various branches of the Rothschilds, who worked in London, Paris, Vienna, and Berlin, were often employed as unpaid diplomats by their governments—who might not trust their own ambassadors, but could rely upon the Rothschilds. The family knew that war was bad for business, and frequently strove through its various branches to patch up quarrels among the nations; the last Rothschild peace initiative was launched in 1914, as various Rothschilds shuttled all over Europe trying to avert the outbreak of World War I. That war brought down three monarchies which used to do business with the family, and forced them to concentrate on their vineyards—once a sidelight started to turn out some decent kosher wine.
But their honest dealings never won the Rothschilds any gratitude among narrow nationalists, who suspected the loyalty of Jews, aristocrats, and clergy—each of whom had dangerously “international” connections. As Rothschild critic Myron Fagan (a playwright and journalist, who “launched a one man crusade to unmask the Red Conspiracy in Hollywood which had set about to produce films that would aid that One World Governement [sic] plot,”) asserts:
“Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit-trained professor of canon law, teaching in Engelstock University, when he defected from Christianity to embrace the Luciferian conspiracy. It was in 1770 that the professional money lenders, the then recently organized House of Rothschild, retained him to revise and modernize the age-old Protocols of Zionism, which from the outset, was designed to give the Synagogue of Satan, so named by Jesus Christ, ultimate world domination so they could impose the Luciferian ideology upon what would remain of the human race after the final social cataclysm by use of satanic despotism.”
For instance, by making better wine. In 1978, Baron Philippe de Rothschild, owner of Château Mouton-Rothschild in Pauillac, France, met with Robert Mondavi to discuss a joint venture that would wed French tradition, American technique—and presumably, Luciferian ideology. The winery they started, Opus One, produced what was perhaps the first “ultrapremium” American wine, introduced in 1984 at $50 per bottle—more than double the price of comparable California vintages. As Steve Pitcher wrote in Wine News (Feb./Mar. 2000), the price reflected the work which had gone into the wine:
“Opus One is meticulously ‘hand massaged,’ with frequent topping of barrels and six rackings during its 18 months in barrel, making it extremely labor intensive. The wine is moved only by the gentle force of gravity; mechanical pumps are banned. In the first-growth tradition, the $700 French barrels are never reused. And, at a cost of more than $29 million, the Opus One Winery ranks as one of the world’s most expensive single-product facilities.”
The wine was an immediate and enduring success, which of course awakened suspicion. Was it merely an accident that a vulgar American corporation was working with scions of an ancient banking family to dominate the worldwide wine market? Surely, there must be more to the story than that—some Hidden Hand squeezing the grapes….
And indeed there was. According to the always-informative Web resource Illuminati Today Index, that hand belongs to Opus Dei. The intrepid anonymous author of the Sept. 3, 2006 expose “Dorothy Bush-Koch Linked to Rothschilds and Opus Dei through Devil’s Wine” reports with alarm that Dorothy Bush-Koch, sister of the president, is married to a man named Robert “Bob” Koch, himself also a president—albeit only of the Wine Institute, an industry lobbying group. But who should turn up among the members of that secretive vintners’ cabal? None other than both the Mondavis and the Rothschilds. Even worse, the site reports:
“The winery itself and the name of its prime product “Blood Red” have given rise to suspicions of satanic ritualism and architecture. The Baroness Rothschild who now heads this particular enterprise also has a joint venture with the Chilean winery Concha y Toro—or Seashell and Bull—in Chile. That Winery is openly run by Opus Dei. Its favorite brand is Cassilera del Diablo or Devil’s Cellar. The silver wrapping on the cork has the outline of a devil. Rather odd for a group that claims to be doing God’s Work as the name Opus Dei implies in Latin…. A QUESTION WITH AN ANSWER WE MAY NOT WANT TO KNOW: Does the Catholic Church use Opus One for Mass?”
I checked on this, and the author is absolutely right: Concha y Toro’s CEO is indeed Eduardo Guilisasti, 53, of Santiago, Chile, and he does belong to Opus Dei. As to the more critical question of which parishes serve up Opus One (now $149 a bottle) at Mass…. I’m still out there looking. If any of my readers turn up such a church, please send me the name and driving directions.
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On only a tangentially related note, Opus Dei by and large is comprised of people from the third world (e.g. Asians, Indians, Mestizos, Amerindians, etc) but by not many whites. Opus Dei is also a big backer of the third-world invasion of the West (via illegal and legal immigration). It is no coincidence that Brownback is a fifth columnist for the invaders.
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If you do a google search for “Elvis” + “John Zmirak” you get over 1,200 results!
Just a coincidence? I don’t think so!
Elvis is everywhere!:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gopc3fgnXDw
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See, Zmirak, you were *wrong.* AK just proved Opus Dei IS A CONSPIRACY!
Re the immigration thing: the USCCB is one of the biggest pro-immigrant groups around. So maybe it doesn’t have to do with third world people trying to invade America as it does with the general Church-hierarchy position on the thing.
Histor
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By the way, I noticed at Barnes & Noble today that the normally sober World History shelf suddenly offered 10 separate titles on the Freemasons. A clerk explained that they are popular since the Dan Brown books.
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Obviously you have been hoodwinked by OD disinformation. The Truth is that Louis Freeh is not Opus Dei. They just WANT you to think that to deflect attention from who their members really are—the people who aren’t in the papers but wield the Real Power!
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Rothscilds honest… that’s a new one. They brought those monarchies down, and that was the plan.
The conspiracy is already in the open and few will admit it because they are hoodwinked.
When the only candidates who are “approved” are approved by yahoodi / banksters, and people dont realize it or complain, they must be confortable with their chains.
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“empty13”,
You just don’t get it.
God is The Greatest Comedian, and conspiracy theorists are the most pathetic of all God’s clowns, because they just don’t get the joke.
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I have been reading Zmirak for some time, and have become convinced that he is the premier living apologist for the Powers Behind the Puppets. In my “The True Founding Fathers”, I elaborate on the PBP, and all their works, and all their pomps, and all their empty promises. Look at our global economic systems. Observe the fluctuations, the drifts and flows, the ups and downs and ominous in-betweens. Forget free markets. All movements of capital, all transactions, are calculated meticulously by these authoritarian-alchemists, these destroyers of crown and cross, of throne and altar. They will shake us and mix us like the potions of the old arts, and in the end all manner of wickedness will result. Watch their movements. Learn their ways. And beware the secret sorcerors, for their vengeance knows no bounds.
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Funny, I thought the anti-Rothschild types lambasted them for financing wars, not trying to prevent them!
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Mr (or Ms?) “underwatchfulskies”, an above commenter, wrote:
“I have been reading Zmirak for some time, and have become convinced that he is the premier living apologist for the Powers Behind the Puppets.”
YES! Yes he is! And now we’ll tell you another secret: YOU are one of the puppets!
You THOUGHT you wrote your own comment here! But really, John Zmirak (and the rest of us friends of his) were just pulling your strings behind the scenes!
HA! HAHAHAHA! (Evil laughter...)
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PS,
DAMN! This place is becoming fun again! But I guess with Taki as our host we couldn’t go wrong… ;-)
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Laugh, cretin, laugh. And when at last you realise, when at last you finally grasp the futility of your gestures and the limits of your experience, feel that laughter harden in your threat, the deadening of a leaden choke. You are not even one of their anointed; just a useful idiot, scoffing at a revealer.
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That’s “throat”, not “threat”. Even we revealers are allowed to make typographical errors.
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It has been my experience that most (but not all) conspiracy theories have been so labeled, pejoratively, by people who encounter an explanation for some event or situation for which the evidence is unknown to them,the logic of the argument is too complex or for which they already possess an explanation which they are too emotionally invested in to abandon it regardless of the evidence or the logic. I suspect the sincerity of an author who purports to refute an explanation for some event or condition by simply mocking it in attaching to it the negatively connotative term “conspiracy theory” rather than actually presenting a rational argument demonstrating why that explanation is false. Zmirak has here compounded that insincerity by bundling together a variety of explanations some of which bear credence and some not and tarring them all by association with the pejorative term conspiracy theory. Some explanations are both in fact theories about conspiracies and correct.
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“...people who encounter an explanation for some event or situation for which the evidence is unknown to them,the logic of the argument is too complex or for which they already possess an explanation which they are too emotionally invested in to abandon it regardless of the evidence or the logic.”
Actually, that sounds more like a description of conspiracy theorists…
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”...people who encounter an explanation for some event or situation for which the evidence is unknown to them,the logic of the argument is too complex or for which they already possess an explanation which they are too emotionally invested in to abandon it regardless of the evidence or the logic.”
Actually, that sounds more like a description of conspiracy theorists…
Posted by Degu on May 05, 2007.
When a rational man encounters an explanation with which he disagrees, he presents a rational counter-argument to that explanation. He does not disingenuously attempt to refute the argument offered in that explanation by simply labeling it with the negatively connotative pejorative phrase “conspiracy theory”. Conspiracies do in fact occur and theories which explain those conspiracies ought rightfully to be called “conspiracy theories”. Unfortunately, that phrase has taken on the negative connotation of its being an incorrect explanation. All that one calling some explanation a “conspiracy theory” is really doing is saying that he disagrees with that explanation. Without presenting a rational argument refuting the theory, he merely exposes himself as an insincere disputant. The postmodernist “privileging” of anti-rationalism has replaced refutation-by-rational-argument with refutation-by-pejorative-labeling. To the detriment of public discourse in Western Civilization.
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Well let me introduce you to a different conspiracy theory regarding the Vatican: It is controlled by the command and control apparatus for GLADIO: The quasi-masonic P2 Lodge. Since the latter is CIA financed the locus of Vatican power is Langley, Virginia. First, two quick introductions from wikipedia:
GLADIO (Italian, from Latin gladius, meaning sword) is a code name denoting the clandestine NATO “stay-behind” operation in Italy after World War II, intended to counter a Warsaw Pact invasion of Western Europe. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organisations, Operation Gladio is the code name for all stay-behind organisations. Operating in all of NATO and even in some neutral countries or in Spain before its 1982 adhesion to NATO, Gladio was first coordinated by the Clandestine Committee of the Western Union (CCWU), founded in 1948. After the creation of NATO in 1949, the CCWU was integrated into the Clandestine Planning Committee (CPC), founded in 1951 and overseen by the SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe)
PROPAGANDA DUE (aka P2), a quasi-freemasonic organization, whose existence was discovered in 1981, was closely linked to Gladio. According to a November 18, 1990 article by The Observer, quoted by Statewatch, “Declassified secret service papers reveal that Ted Shackleton, deputy chief of the CIA station in Rome in the 1970s introduced Licio Gelli – head of the neofascist P2 Masonic lodge and for years a fugitive in Argentina – to General Alexander Haig, then Nixon’s chief of staff, and later, from 1974 to 1979, NATO Supreme Commander. P2 was a right-wing shadow government, ready to take over Italy, that included four Cabinet Ministers, all three intelligence chiefs, 48 members of parliament, 160 military officers, bankers, industrialists, top diplomats and the Army Chief of Staff. After meetings between Gelli, Italian military officers and CIA men in the embassy, Gladio was given renewed blessing – and more money – by Haig and the head of the National Security Council, Henry Kissinger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
Now here’s where the Vatican comes in:
Early September 1978: Pope John Paul I asks Cardinal Jean Villot, the Secretary of State for the Vatican, to investigate the Vatican Bank operations. He also is considering the reversal of the Church’s stand on artificial birth control.
Later that month he presents Cardinal Villot with a list of those to be transferred, reassigned or asked to request for resignation. These lists are persons suspected of being Freemasons (that group called P-2). Cardinal Villot happened to be Grand Master, and his name was at the head of the list. This shift of power would have had a major impact on the existing Vatican hierarchy and would also have affected its financial practices.
September 29, 1978: John Paul I found dead in his bed. Cardinal Villot issues false statements, removes key evidence from John Paul’s room and orders the body embalmed before an autopsy can be performed.
http://www.prose-n-poetry.com/display_work/10583/
In other words, this new Pope presents a list of P2 Lodge members to be removed from the Vatican power structure and within 24 hours he’s dead and embalmed.
So in one corner we have the P2 Lodge, a CIA controlled group that comprises most of the Italian elite, operates a secret underground army and eats Popes for breakfast.
In the other corner we have.. Opus Dei. As far as conspiracy theories go, there’s simply no contest.
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Bob’s Riddle: All anti-white racists agree that it’s ok for whites to become minorities in their own countries. All anti-white racists also agree that a Japanese person who wants to become a minority in his own country is either a traitor or clinically insane. Therefore, what is an anti-white racist? Answer
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I have always loved conspiracies because many of
them are, in fact, true. (See JPI info above.) I
only wish I could join one and then cash out
before the investigations get serious.
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John, the conspiracy is the open and the neatest trick the devil ever pulled is to get too-smart-for-their-own-good pundits to believe he doesnt exist.
I see it at work every day.
You are undoubtedly closer to it yet cant see the forest for the trees.
Mantra77 has a point. And there is undoubtedly a conspiracy against him and peole who agree with him.
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Sure there are conspiracies. Either the Japanese successfully conspired to bomb Pearl Harbor, or the U.S. administration at the time successfully conspired to let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Either Al Qaeda successfully conspired to fly planes into the World Trade Center, or the current administration successfully conspired to bomb the World Trade Center. Either way, a fairly elaborate conspiracy was successful.
The idea that people will keep secrets to get gain isn’t far fetched (e.g. - Enron). There are several things that discredit the “conspiracy theorists”, aside from the eat-drink-and-be-merry-ism that afflicts most people at any given point in history. Not least of these discrediting tendencies is the habit of sounding like the bad guy in an old Flash Gordon episode. See the example posted above by underwatchfulskies: “Laugh, cretin, laugh....grasp the futility of your gestures...just a useful idiot, scoffing at a revealer.”
Sorry. I’m not hearing anything. I’m just picturing bad lighting on a guy in a Jekyll and Hyde costume, glowering over the camera, his fingers curled into claws - then cutting to a station break for a Cheerios ad. If you really want anyone to believe you, drop the drama and try harder not to sound like a nut.
Though, as anyone who has made trail-mix knows, nuts are great with Cheerios!
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Magnum Opus Dei?
Before Dan Brown, there was David Morrell and his entertaining spy fiction that also featured Opus Dei and automatic weapon toting priests members of “the fraternity of the stone”.
Most of that is laughable, the problem is that some start taking it seriouusly. Or occasionally something exposes an internal contradiction like Imus pointing out he said less than many of the same media that dropped him put out on audio recordings every day.
And the darwin camp has the best conspiracy theory - all those molecules got together and created life.
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So the law of averages means some conspiracy theories will be true. Are we now supposed to stop making generalizations about conspiracy theorists? Anyway, conspiracy theorists tend to know a great deal more than me about whatever it is they are preaching about. But that means so little, doesn’t it? Scientologists typically know more about Scientology, and so do Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses in regards to their religion. That doesn’t mean they’re objective.
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Hey, sorry about the “Nut” jab. I didn’t intend to stop a perfectly fun conversation.
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“underwatch-etc” wrote:
“That’s “throat”, not “threat”. Even we revealers are allowed to make typographical errors.”
HAHAHAHAHA! Ohhh, DUDE! You have persuaded me to REALLY enjoy drinking again! :-)
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“underw...tf..etc” wrote:
“That’s “throat”, not “threat”. Even we revealers are allowed to make typographical errors.”
HAHAHAHA! Ohh, DUDE! You have persuaded me to REALLY enjoy drinking again!
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I am a convert to the Roman Catholic faith and receive spiritual direction from Opus Dei—I just laugh when I read this silliness RE this post. If my life were only that exciting… check out http://youtube.com/therealopusdei for the real story.
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What fun this conspiricy talk. The chaos factor is in play. Stir it up, little darling. Headline- Pope tells indians to stay away from Marx.For the slums in Brazil-no birth control. What is hidden in opus Dei? Follow the money.Cretin, laugh? Light will overcome darkness. Respectful Dennis.
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I think the “laugh cretin laugh” line was meant to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek. There’s lotsa little conspiracies all the time. Trying to tie them together tends to get one tarred with the pejorative term “conspiracy theorist” but the basic model of the strong and rich dominating the weak and poor is hardly a secret. When do we get to the shape-shifting reptilians from David Ike (spelled Icke) or how about Michael Tsarian? (a brilliant semi-kook)
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Robert Parker’s publication is “The Wine Advocate”, the arch nemesis of “The Wine Spectator”. The rise of the wine industries of California and the southern hemisphere is mostly a result of climate. They have a much more reliable growing season and almost guaranteed sunshine when they need it and therefore produce high quality wines year after year. Many famous wine regions in France have terribly fluctuating growing seasons year to year. If a Burgundy which fetches three hundred dollars a bottle receives a score of 94 in a great year and 86 two or three years in a row due to poor weather, consumers can potentially pay a fortune just for a name on a bottle, and they do. The notion that Bordeaux winemakers don’t use “high tech” vinification techniques is laughable. Robert Mondavi is, however, known as a thug in the California wine industry. As far conspiracies go, EVERY event in history is conspiratorial. Political parties conspire to get their candidates elected, manufacturers conspire to sell their products and religions conspire to recruit members. This is pure semantic abuse meant to halt discourse. This technique is used often in phrases such as; “That’s just class warfare talk” or “That’s just just liberal nonsense.” It is a brilliant technique used by every government, politician , political writer and most clergy. It is an opportunity to suggest one stop thinking and just believe those who are perceived to be more knowledgeable or in a position of power. Plato’s cave is a great example.
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My take on conspiracies is perhaps a little unconventional: I believe that human nature is so depraved that no conspiracy can last very long. The conspiracies that last the longest are ones of limited size held together by religious belief, and even they often self-destruct. When it comes to secular people just after money and pleasure, internal power struggles, whistle blowing and so on make success over the long term unfeasible, particularly when you add in sheer accident and chance. The scary thing isn’t that there’s some shadowy person directing what to show on TV and teach the kids; it’s that these decisions are made by many people. We all bear the responsibility and we can’t bow out by claiming it’s really the Jews or whoever. (Personally I think we should take a page from Douglas Adams and elect the mice as the masterminds of all evil; that way I won’t have to feel guilty about trapping them on those glue sheets.)
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I am not too sure who ios pulling the strings to make a new World order but this post explains hardly anything and just seems to start out o.k but goes silly after a bit.
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The rothschilds have power but which Country did they come from.
Some say it is Israel some say it was from Germany.
What about General electric buying out German and Japanese buinesses.
Those are the Rockefella family.
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