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Message: Entry: A Thanksgiving Turkey From a Chickenhawk Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/a_thanksgiving_turkey_from_a_chickenhawk#10212 Post contents: The Pilgrims weren't leaving a Catholic Europe behind of course, but a Protestant Europe. For the Pilgrims, England wasn't tolerant enough, and Holland was too tolerant. Edmund Burke was thinking of the Pilgrims when he said, "dissent not satisfied with tolerance is not conscience but is instead ambition." In other words, the Pilgrims wanted to be in charge of their own society. If only that was true of their descendents today, we wouldn't have the problem of Neocons and their ideas in high places. Whatever Neoconism is, it isn't descended from the Pilgrim's original Protestantism, that dissidence of dissent. And whatever flaws the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant founders of America had, they were minor compared to those of the current ruling class. Sent at: 2008 10 07