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Message: Entry: The Gospel of Hope Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_gospel_of_hope#10745 Post contents: Mr. Jones. I believe Card Ratzinger refered to it as a "counter-syllabus". http://matt1618.freeyellow.com/syllabus.html But, for each soi disant traditionalist who condemned the good Cardinal for his statement, the are 100 traddies whose ideas are also condemned, along with many of them. 23. Roman pontiffs and ecumenical councils have wandered outside the limits of their powers, have usurped the rights of princes, and have even erred in defining matters of faith and morals. -- Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851. Fr. Fellay and the rest of the Lefevbre cult are among those who believe Vatican Two taught error, for instance. And, of course, they are also in violation of aspects of Qunata Cura,and many other Magisterial Documents too numerous to cite. Why can't traditionalists really act like traditionalists and simply accept what Holy Mother Church teaches rather than subjecting the Church's Doctrine/Discipline to its own Inquisitional-ideological presuppositions before deciding the Doctrine/Discipline is acceptable and therefore worthy of their obedience? (Their approach makes THEM the authority, obviously). So, "traditionalists" initially like the Enyclical. Whoop-de-doo!! I read it and I already know where their objections will arise. It is only a matter of time before some soi disant traddie declaims it is wrong vis a vis thus and such and the piling-on will begin. ANY time the living Magisterium issues a Document or takes a decision, that act is heard as a starter's pistol in the caves of the schismatic orcs and the race is on to see who will be the first to be able to "successfully prove" it is against Tradition. The Dogmatic Laity. Thery are as insufferable as they are unstinting in their opposition to the Church. As for Our Sweet Jesus on Earth, he has forgotten more than all of them combined will ever know when it comes to Patristics, Tradition, and Theology. Sent at: 2008 07 06