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Message: Entry: The Gospel of Hope Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_gospel_of_hope#10951 Post contents: Spartacus, Pope BXVI doesn’t mention a single Vatican II document in Spe Salvi. What do you think about that? Is BXVI becoming a traddie? ++++++++ Begin Quotes +++++++++++= Apostolic Tradition and ecclesial traditions 83 The Tradition here in question comes from the apostles and hands on what they received from Jesus' teaching and example and what they learned from the Holy Spirit. The first generation of Christians did not yet have a written New Testament, and the New Testament itself demonstrates the process of living Tradition. Tradition is to be distinguished from the various theological, disciplinary, liturgical or devotional traditions, born in the local churches over time. These are the particular forms, adapted to different places and times, in which the great Tradition is expressed. In the light of Tradition, these traditions can be retained, modified or even abandoned under the guidance of the Church's Magisterium. +++++++++ end quotes +++++++++++++ It is the Church which decides what is and isn't Tradition. So, ALL Christian Catholics, who maintain the Bonds of Unity in Worship, Doctrine, and Authority, are "traddies." What is new - and in opposition to Tradition - Pope Benedict XV - and his Encyclical, AD BEATISSIMI APOSTOLORUM:... 24. It is, moreover, Our will that Catholics should abstain from certain appellations which have recently been brought into use to distinguish one group of Catholics from another. They are to be avoided not only as "profane novelties of words," out of harmony with both truth and justice, but also because they give rise to great trouble and confusion among Catholics. Such is the nature of Catholicism that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole or as a whole rejected: "This is the Catholic faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly; he cannot be saved" (Athanas. Creed). There is no need of adding any qualifying terms to the profession of Catholicism: it is quite enough for each one to proclaim "Christian is my name and Catholic my surname," only let him endeavour to be in reality what he calls himself. is Christian Catholics labeling themselves "traditionalist." In the past, such a label was a tautology. As to Diogenes' observation, so what? In his First Encyclical, Pope Benedict DID cite Vatican Two. Moe than Once. More than twice. Did that mean he was a liberal? That Pope Benedict is a traddie is a tautology. I think folks forget that when Vatican Two is interpreted in light of Tradition that means Vatican Two is, ah, um, Tradition. Pope Benedict XV was spot-on in his observations and Doctrine and we are living witnesses to the destructive divisions he warned against. Sent at: 2008 07 24