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Message: Entry: The Gospel of Hope Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_gospel_of_hope#10988 Post contents: I am not Spartacus, Your logic is flawless and applied to reality, should bring silence to the whole issue. It will not, however, and should not, because the Church consists of suffering souls in purgatory, the Church triumphant in heaven, and the Church militant in the world. It is a Church administered in the world by grace working through fallen creatures, certainly not angels or even saints. Sad but true. It has been so from the beginning. Reading St. Alphonsos' History of Heresy, is a reminder that there is nothing new or old about Tradition and very little new about the current heresies. The best times for the Church were when this is understood and practiced, instead of defended, obeyed or neglected. Sent at: 2008 07 24