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Message: Entry: Ron Paul: It's Payback Time Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/ron_paul_its_payback_time#11165 Post contents: The Paleoconservative movement is now dead. It probably died with Sam Francis. Paleoconservatism was (lets use past tense) the victim of the old tactic "divide and conquer". Here are the fault lines that divide the now dead body of Paleoconservatism: 1. an odd grouping of Serbian Nationalists, Traditionalists Catholics, Evangelical Protestants, and Dispensationalists, who, though they profess to hate each other, have coalesced with each other and have allied themselves de facto with their mutually proclaimed enemy, the Neocons, all over one issue: That the rollback, if not the destruction, of Islam is the supreme issue, overriding any other, if not excluding any other. Two columnists on this website, allied with the Rockford Institute, might be the representatives of this view. 2. one writebacker, most likely using several names, a Racialist nationalist, for whom the supremacy of the “White” race is the overriding issue. He may be only an agent provocateur. 3. a few writebackers, Judeophobes and Antisemites, for whom the destruction of Jews is the overriding issue. They may also be flying a false flag. I pray Mr. Sarto deletes most of these writebackers’ remarks. 4. one writebacker, a British nationalist for whom the Anglican Establishment and the ties of the old British Empire are the overriding issues, or important issues. 5. one writebacker, a Puritan, for whom the discrediting of the Catholic Church is the overriding issue. He represents the emerging movement of Neocalvinism 6. one writebacker, an Ultra of the Charles X stamp and a arch-traditionalist Catholic, for whom the destruction of Vatican II and the enthronement of the Carlist pretender are the overriding issues, or at least very important issues. 7. several older columnists, veterans of the wars in the 80s and 90s, and a large number of Paleocons, for whom the destruction of the Neocons is the overriding issue, and support Ron Paul only to the extent that he is Anti-Neocon. The very word “Paleocon” suggest their antipathy. This group is so eager to raze the Neocon city that they would even support the Cultural Marxists and their candidate Nurse Ratched just to defeat the Neocons. 8. a number of Paleocons gladly in coalition with “The Old Right” of Bob Taft, with Paleolibertarians, Neolibertarians, Jeffersonians, and Neoconfederates – and thus eagerly support Ron Paul. They see Neoconservatives as the immediate opponent, the Cultural Marxists as the ultimate opponent. They have no nationalist tie to another country. They are indifferent to Islam. They equally loath Rudy and Nurse Ratched, and will never support either or wish for the success of either. The withdraw of this group has been going on slowly since the Paleolibs split from the John Randolph Clubs. Such a bunch -- divided by competing sectarian, nationalist, and individual interestes -- can hardly be call a unified movement anymore. All the while, Real Conservatism – Burkean Conservatism, what one would have wished to be the foundation of Real Conservatism – is either misrepresented or is dismissed as a "liberal". To the extent that the Ron Paul movement, a libertarian movement, killed off Paleoconservatism is worth discussing. (Ron Paul himself is alien to ## 1-7 ) Readers should note that I am not faultfinding. I am only stating what I perceive to be facts, facts which I believe warrant the claim of my first sentence. Sent at: 2008 05 15