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Entry: Ron Paul: It's Payback Time Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/ron_paul_its_payback_time#11205 Post contents: Andrew Capp wrote: Southern Whites will not vote for a Blackman. And, without the Southern White Vote, you don’t win the presidency. Southern Whites will vote for even Giuliani before they would Obama. They would vote for Giuliani before Hillary Rodham-Clinton. They would vote for a White Southern Democrat instead of Giuliani, someone along the lines of Zell Miller or Sam Nunn or Jim Folsom, Jr, or Phil Bredesen. Those men could not win the Democratic nomination these days. The [national] Democratic party is more sunk than even the [national] Republican party, as impossible as that seems." It's not only the Southern Whites, it's all working class, middle income whites…Obama or Hillary will be the ultimate expression of McGovern era “identity politics”, and will lose. But this voting block is being slowly undermined by the adoption of “libertarian” economics, ie, the politics of “finance capitalism” and plutocracy. For those of us old enough to remember when it was communism we were fighting are appalled that is unrestrained finance capitalism that is leading the charge to destroy our WASP culture…Obama is awash in Wall Street money. As for “digbydolben“, he’s all screwed up calling himself a “leftist” and then celebrating the “libertarianism” of the Democrat Party represented by Hillary/Clinton…you can take all the libertarians and the leftists and throw them in the same garbage dump as far as I am concerned…both are based on Godless materialism and are mirror images of each other, extremist utopianism combined with plutocratic elitism. For all practical purposes, the “neo-cons” are the real libertarians, believing in the “free market” defined by finance capitalism and Wall Street, and the WTF/IMF/FED/World Bank, which is really the only “free market” that mainstream “libertarianism” talks about. In that regard, the war to neutralize the Middle East is a war to protect these institutions of finance capitalism. This is not only a war for oil, a war to protect Israel, it’s a world to protect international finance capitalism. Ron Paul and his “libertarian” supporters have fallen off the deep end and are so far out of the practical politics of the country, that’s they might as well be conducting his campaign from a flying saucer. Sent at: 2008 05 15