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Entry: The Broken Compass Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_broken_compass#11994 Post contents: Me comment was a tongue-in-cheek, gentle, self-denigrating riposte. Lighten-up, Francis From the Catechism of Pope St. Pius XTH - the great man whose name you and your Satan-serving schism dishonor… Well, Spart, as I read your introductory comments, to wit: “...gentle, self-denigrating....” “Satan-serving schism...” [I bet you stayed up all night for that one], I came to the conclusion that you are obviously not to be taken as seriously as you take yourself. A touch of humility is lacking as is knowledge. And wisdom, well, another time perhaps. Since you seem to relish quotes, I will give you a few. However, I would be the first to wish that Pope Saint Pius X or Pope Pius V was in charge. Then I know that Vatican2 would have never happened; the Church would have remained true to Her Deposit of Faith; and the modernists (perhaps you included) would have been sent packing...as Roncalli and Montini had been earlier in their careers. But the invincibly ignorant try to hide behind the virtue and discipline of Obedience thinking that they maintain the Faith. I’m sorry old boy but it is you and your modernist, protestantized brethren who will have more to explain than those of us who stayed true to the One, True, Holy, and Apostolic Church, the one that St. Irenaeus would recognize. For what it’s worth – these are mostly your people, by the way, so go argue with them: Cardinal Castillo Lara, President of the Pontifical Commission for the Authentic Interpretation of Canon Law, explained that, “The act of consecrating a bishop (without the Popes permission) is not in itself a schismatic act” and so no excommunication applies. (La Republica, October 7, 1988). Cardinal Alfons Stickler, former Prefect of the Vatican Archives and Library, served as an expert to four Vatican II commissions. Living in the Vatican at the time, he said: “Pope John Paul II, in 1986, asked a commission of nine cardinals two questions. Firstly, did Pope Paul VI, or any other competent authority, legally forbid the widespread celebration of the Tridentine Mass in the present day? The answer given by eight of the cardinals in 1986 was that, no, the Mass of Saint Pius V has never been suppressed. I can say this, I was one of the cardinals. There was another question, very interesting. “Can any bishop forbid any priest in good standing from celebrating a Tridentine Mass again?” The nine cardinals unanimously agreed that no bishop may forbid a Catholic priest from saying the Tridentine Mass. We have no official prohibition and I think that the Pope would never establish an official prohibition...because of the words of Pius V, who said this was a Mass forever.” (Latin Mass Magazine, May 5, 1995) Cardinal Edward Cassidy, the President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, wrote the following reply, on May 3, 1994, to an inquiry about the status of the Society of Saint Pius X: “Regarding your inquiry..., I would point out at once that the Directory on Ecumenism is not concerned with the Society of Saint Pius X. The situation of the members of this Society is an internal matter of the Catholic Church. The Society is not another Church or Ecclesial Community in the meaning used in the Directory. Of course the Mass and Sacraments administered by the priests of the Society are valid. The Bishops are validly, but not lawfully consecrated......” Fr. Gerald Murray of the Archdiocese of New York received his license in Canon Law at Rome’s Gregorian University in 1995 with a lengthy thesis entitled: “The Canonical Status of the Lay Faithful Associated with the Late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the Society of Saint Pius X. Are they Excommunicated as Schismatics?” In his interview with Latin Mass Magazine (Fall, 1995), he says: “I have received a license in canon law and I’ve studied this topic, the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre, for my license thesis.... They’re not excommunicated as schismatics, as far as I can see, because the Vatican has never said they are.... I come to the conclusion that, canonically speaking, he’s not guilty of a schismatic act punishable by canon law. He’s guilty of an act of disobedience to the Pope, but he did it in such a way that he could avail himself of a provision of the law that would prevent him from being automatically excommunicated (latae sententiae) for this act. *** In the case of the Society of Saint Pius X lay people or the priests, the Vatican has never declared any priest or lay person to have become a schismatic. *** As far as I can see, the Holy See has never stated that mere attendance at a Mass said by a priest in the Society of Saint Pius X constitutes a schismatic act ... Let’s say that you knew that the priest at your parish was teaching things contrary to the moral law or Catholic doctrine. Let’s say he denied the existence of hell, or taught that divorced and remarried people could receive Communion. Could you go to a Society of Saint Pius X chapel to receive doctrine? That seems better to me than hearing truly heretical sermons.” Count Neri Capponi, D.Cn. L., LL.D., retired Professor of Canon Law at the University of Florence, well-known in Vatican legal circles and accredited to argue cases before the Apostolic Signatura, explains that for a schismatic act, it is not enough to merely consecrate a bishop without papal permission. “He must do something more. For instance, had he set up a hierarchy of his own, then it would have been a schismatic act. The fact is that Msgr. Lefebvre simply said: ‘I am creating bishops in order that my priestly order can continue. They do not take the place of other bishops. I am not creating a parallel church.’ Therefore, this act was not, per se, schismatic.” And yes, I could go on and on as well. St. Athanasius comes to mind. But since, in reality, you prefer koran-kissing modernists and clown-masses and such, I thought I would introduce you to some of the people who made it possible for you to enjoy your invalid, protestantized services – and I will, at least, promise the moderator of this excellent website that I will never do this again : A List of Masons in the Vatican and Italian Church Sent at: 2008 10 12