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Message: Entry: Ron Paul's Patriotic Crimethink Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/ron_pauls_patriotic_crimethink#1472 Post contents: Well, I'm coming to the conclusion that there is no "War on Terror"...there is only the US occupying a foreign land for some very selfish, and UnAmerican reasons--namely OIL and Israel. And it's creating the very blowback that Pat Buchanan warned us about only a couple of years before 911. It's really just playing into the hands of the neo-cons and the AIPAC to talk about the "war on terror". Ron Paul's response to the AIPAC pimp, Guiliani, was fumbling, but he gained momentum, and I'm sure he would have scored some hits on Guiliani if the debate was allowed to continue. The US has legitimate strategic interests in the mideast such as keeping Europe and China from interfering if we were not around. And as much as I hate to admit it, the US economy is centered around the petro-dollar, and how it props up our spending and trade deficits. But what we are doing in the mideast, in military interventionism and subservience to Israel undermines these interests. The US economic dependence on Mideast oil is a big problem. The US Congress' dependence on AIPAC just makes this problem worse. "Conservatives" need to forget this free market fundamentalist nonsense, and admit that the only form of capitalism that works is state capitalism, and get to work freeing the US from oil dependence, and freeing the congress (especially the Democrats) from AIPAC money. Sent at: 2008 07 20