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Message: Entry: Pope Banned from Speaking in Rome Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/wankers_ban_pope_from_speaking_in_rome#15181 Post contents: @John, The Italians have a complicated relationship with the clergy, clericalism, and the Roman Church, that is not comparable to the outright dismissal, and dare one say loathing, that one can encounter among American liberals. It's more of a love / hate relationship. Excuse remarks on the subject, which were more strident than they needed to be. Giovanni Guareschi was an author who wrote some delightful books which describe human frailty, but also the relationship between Church and State in Italy, which I can only recommend. Here's a link to one of them: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/doncamillo/Christmas/HolidayJoys.html Don Camillo is the parish priest, Peppone the Communist mayor. Sent at: 2008 11 21