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Entry: Inventing Islam Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/inventing_islam#15547 Post contents: Allen, Pakistani input in the JF17 program has been entirely financial as the Chinese side had to be paid the full expense of developing and building the aircraft, seeing as the PLAAF had no interest in the plane as it already has the superior J10. I'm afraid the umma can claim no credit for this. Stan, As one who has spent the last 10+ years watching the Chinese aerospace industry, and more specifically the J10 your characterization was inaccurate in this instance, the JF17 uses Russian Satyrn RD93 turbofans and and the Pakis requesting the Italian Grifo 200 radar. The rest is Chinese. Allen is trying the dishonest rhetorical tactic of conflation in trying to connect East Asian technical achievements with Islamic achievements, or lack thereof. Science and engineering are quite well established in East Asian society today (China, Korea, Japan) BTW Allen, China was never a colony, and they, not the muslims, did rocketry first. You cannot do rocketry without gunpowder. "Soviet All Technology Invented Here By Proleterians" indeed. Sent at: 2008 12 02