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Message: Entry: Race, Nationalism, and Patriotism, Part II: Nationalism Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/race_nationalism_and_patriotism_part_ii_nationalism#15653 Post contents: @ian: "The above is not a description of nationalism; it is a description of chauvinism. Please do not play the socialist’s game of confusing the meaning of words so that rational debate becomes impossible. It makes no sense to love one’s own country (ie be a nationalist) and not allow that others should have the same right." This is why I made sure to define my terms. You may not agree with the definitions; that's fine. But when John Lukacs and JPII (and George Orwell and Lord Acton, for that matter) use the word "nationalism," they mean it in the way that it is described here. Your definition of "nationalism"--"to love one’s own country"--is what these men call "patriotism." I've never understood why some people who define nationalism in a way that is more a definition of patriotism so adamantly cling to the former term. Why not use "patriotism" instead? Sent at: 2008 07 06