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Message: Entry: Race, Nationalism, and Patriotism, Part III: Patriotism Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/race_nationalism_and_patriotism_part_iii_patriotism#15926 Post contents: Mr. Cundiff: The American Heritage Dictionary lists the following as the 3rd definition of "nation": "A people who share common customs, origins, history, and frequently language; a nationality." Clearly such a grouping is natural. I don't mind if you prefer to use a hellenism and call that group an "ethnos," but it is simply wrongheaded to try to redefine the English word "nation" so that this non-ideological, perfectly neutral meaning is excluded. We use the word "sovereignty" without having to subscribe to Hobbes' view of what sovereignty was. Sent at: 2008 07 09