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Message: Entry: Submission Accomplished Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/submission_accomplished#16549 Post contents: John, It seems you have not worked out the implications of Libertarianism. If you want a small, limited government, that by definition means people are left to do their own thing. This applies even when those people do things you do not like. If you want to influence others in a free society, that influence has to happen through persuasion, not force -- a far more difficult approach, but also far more effective when performed successfully. Whatever central control there is happens at state level, just as the Founders intended and as Ron Paul now advocates. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you advocate libertarianism, you cannot in the next breath start making detailed requirements on how others sould behave. Controlling people will inevitably require a large bureaucracy, and that produces a political system contrary to Libertarianism and its freedoms. The book "Liberal Fascism" got this right, but unfortunately (though understandably, considering the author's background) it did not work out the implications of government-building all the way to the neoconservatives. The astonishing and totally unexpected support Ron Paul found on the net -- i.e., among just those highly educated men between 18 and 50, who often are the harbingers of future trends -- shows there is remarkable potential for this traditional, libertarian, small-government, non-interventionist foreign policy conservatism. The most effective approach would be to start building up this community, just as Taki seemed to suggest in his endorsement of Paul. In fact, TakiMag could become a home for this community, because to my knowledge they currently do not have a forum where they could meet. Sent at: 2008 08 30