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Entry: Putin Beyond the Propaganda Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/putin_beyond_the_propoganda#17742 Post contents: Mr. Cundiff, I am a glutton for mental punishment, so I venture on... 1. How do you "prove" a nation is Christian? Give me a case example of one modern nation that has been "proven" Christian to your satisfaction. Are the parameters analogous to "proving" a nation, say, Hindu? 2. What statistics, facts, and footnotes deliniate the difference between oridnary nationalists and the "ultranationalists" you refer to? Milsoevic was an "ultranationalist", I believe, though I don't quite undersand the definition. What is Vladimir Putin? What was Chang Kaishek? What was Golda Meir? 3. Outside of historical inquiry, for what reasons does it matter to you whether the murderers in Pristina are motivated by Islam or nationalism or just plain old psychopathy? Does one state of mind over another make the dynamiting of another people's heritage on their own land more palatable? (Not to mention centuries of terrorism in opportunistic allegiance with EVERY murderous regime to enter the Balkans: Ottomans, Nazis, Stalinists, and NATO.) Or do the actions speak loudest at the moment? 4. What is your definition of genocide and which dictionary do you base it on? Is it numeric? Is it based on actual incident or intent? List for me your sources that define the genocides and attempted genocides of the Balkans that you state as matter of fact having transpired? 5. Which country "in particular" in your earlier post is most "notorious" in the Balkans? Are you, per chance refering to Croatia? I recall the American magazine Harpers publishing the transcripts of the released tape recordings of President Tudjman's address to his cabinet in the early 1990s in which he outlined the planned elimination of all Serbs and Serbian heritage in Croatia. Boy, compare that one to Milsoevic's multicultural schlock from his late 1980s Kosovo address that is routinely misrepresented as "nationalist". If it is the Croatians of whom you speak , then I agree, they are clearly the most notorious locals. (Then again, how does one prove "notorious" versus "infamous"? I am unsure....) But I digress to obscurantism...please do forgive. (Everyone else: Note when you have no footnotes for Sid, you have "no case"; when you do provide straightforward facts that don't conform to Sid's worldview you are "obscurantist" or "propogandist". Nothing interesting there - this sort of baitor has been around for a long time now and anyone that pays close attention to history will hear the familiar thumping of the boots making their "long march" through everything and anything worth destroying. And, believe me, a fine site such is Taki's is worth destroying.) Sent at: 2008 05 16