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Message: Entry: Climate of Here Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/climate_of_here#18984 Post contents: Yep, there was a global warming ages ago, also a Ice Age (which caused the Flood when all that ice melted and had to go somewhere), and other climate calamities which were followed by mass extinctions. Just because somehting is natural does not mean that it is benign. The bubonic plague was natural enough. So, if the climate is changing, we need to prepare for it, and the ostrich technique is not the way to do it. Somehow the climate skeptics seem to come in stages. "The climate is not changing" (well, at least this is succeptible to proof) "The climate is chaning for natural causes" (as I point out, not a reason to rejoice) "The change in climate will produce minimal changes or beneficial changes" (if only Mother Nature was not such a bitch....) "The climate change can be dealt with by measures that do not involve coercion nor government action" (this is debatable, but the problem is that those who get to that point have spent too long saying one of the above statemtnes and their credibility is zero). Failure to acknowldege the problem head on leads to the situation decried by Burke, when what would be a boon graciously granted turns out to be a concession forcefully extracted. When you reach that point, you cannot ask for conditions. Sent at: 2008 11 23