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Message: Entry: Mr. bin Laden, Meet Mr. Kennan--A New Containment Policy Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/mr_bin_laden_meet_mr_kennan_a_new_containment_policy#19544 Post contents: "Instead, the Bush administration has nearly bankrupted the United States and destroyed American prestige, while committing horrific violations of human dignity (read: “torture") that would be completely unacceptable under criminal law." First, torture in a "ticking-time-bomb" situation is not immoral. When the lives of thousands, possibly millions is at stake, waterboarding is a proportionate response. Fr. Brian Harrison, O.S., proved it at the end of this article: http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt119.html It was worth it to waterboard Mr. Khaled Sheikh Mohammed. Secondly, I have many of the same concerns as Sid Cundiff, for whatever that's worth. But rather than post that as as a "response" to a post he may not even have read, he should write it up and post it as his own article. One of my primary problems with Chronicles (gratuitous commentary) is the whole Serbian thing, which seems rather obsessive. What especially disturbs me is the chauvinistic rhetoric of so many Serbs. To hear them tell it, there is no such thing as a "Croat," nor any such thing as an "Albania," and Serbia stretches, practically speacking from the Adriatic to the Black Sea. If that is the language of the "respectable" apologists, I have no problem beliing that Serbian extremists could commit atrocities against Albanians or Bosniaks or Croatians, and even pas a polygraph afterward -- they simply don't believe that is *possible* to sin in the service of Serbia. You may say that is also true of the Albanians and the Croats -- "tu quoque." None of them seem all that great. I don't want the Balkans to fall to Al-Queda, but I don't want to help create a Greater Serbia either. Sent at: 2008 09 08