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Message: Entry: Marriage, Freedom, Discrimination Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/marriage_freedom_discrimination#21930 Post contents: Bramwell sed: "In reality of course, not even the most passionate same-sex marriage advocate actually cares about anything so trivial as whether the government calls same sex relationships “marriages” or not. Government endorsed marriage is instead a means to an end. That is, impassioning both sides of the debate is the mutual conviction that, by endorsing certain relationships and not others as “marriages,” the government has the power to change people’s minds." Your argumentation about "goverment endorsed marriage" escapes me, and the only insight I agree with is the above. Gays don't give a dang tooting about the "sanctity" of traditional marriage, they want the rest of us to be forced to "respect" the "way they live their lives". Forcing this on the public with "gay marriage" is the means to their end it seems. I really doubt that anything will change though. Sent at: 2008 07 04