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Message: Entry: Is There Conservatism Beyond Christianity? (or how to book a mental vacation in Athens or Valhalla) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/is_there_conservatism_beyond_christianity_or_how_to_book_a_mental_vacation#23149 Post contents: The strength of this article is the clear and sharp division between the "Far Right", with its neo-paganism and Real Conservatism and its Christianity. We have absolutely nothing in common with the "Far Right". We're not even close to Benoist and Evola. I am less impressed with the equation of paganism with the natural law and Aristotelean tradition. The Greek philosophers, starting with the pre-Socratics, rejected paganism. Mr. Havers seems just as unwilling to acknowledge the Scholastic synthesis of Christianity and ancient philosophy as the Straussians. I have said before that the West is unique among civilizations in having two Golden Ages, to be denominated "Athens" and "Jerusalem". This history of the West is the history of the dynamic between these two forces. The school of Personalism that developed out of Realist Phenomenology offers a far better grounding of human dignity and rights than the liberal tradition, and is in itself a synthesis of Athens and Jerusalem. That the Personalists, especially of the German and Polish schools, are mostly Catholics should be noted. Sent at: 2008 08 30