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Message: Entry: Is There Conservatism Beyond Christianity? (or how to book a mental vacation in Athens or Valhalla) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/is_there_conservatism_beyond_christianity_or_how_to_book_a_mental_vacation#23170 Post contents: An additional perspective: the article discusses "Christianity" largely as a single entity. Yet, Christianity, particularly Protestantism, seems to be continuously mutating. Furthermore, those mutations are so large that even basic ideas are lost. Just in the last century we have seen the appearance of the social gospell movement and dispensationalism, both of whom have had massive influence, and both of whom are drastically different from what Protestantism used to be. Go back a bit further, and German Protestantism adopted the "elect nation" idea, which turned it into a prop of nationalism and totally abandoned the core idea of all humans as equals in nature and in law (i.e., in last judgment). Grant Havers is very correct indeed in his description of external attacks on the Christian tradition and its role in West. A more serious danger, however, may be an internal, self-destructive tendency that seems to be particularly strong in Protestantism. Somehow this religion has an incredible ability to change while emphatically -- and in its own opinion honestly -- arguing that it is adhering to its original ideas. Sent at: 2008 11 23