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Entry: Is There Conservatism Beyond Christianity? (or how to book a mental vacation in Athens or Valhalla) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/is_there_conservatism_beyond_christianity_or_how_to_book_a_mental_vacation#23214 Post contents: I did not mean my above comment to elicit any Protestant / Catholic divide. Unfortunately, most Protestants and Catholics alike have been infected with the post-Enlightenment "universal human rights" ideology. Fortunately, there are a handful of traditionalist Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox Christians who have wisely rejected this nonsense. G.S: "Mr. Havers is quite right to link Straussianism & neopaganism. " Leo Strauss was either an atheist or an agnostic. This is certain. Hostility towards Christianity alone does not a pagan make. Actual pagans were very religious people. Take a look at E.R. Dodds' The Greeks and the Irrational, or investigate some of the mystery cults of ancient Greece, Rome or of the Germanic or Nordic tribes. These people were 'religious' in the traditional sense, in the sense of the Latin 'religio' of a "binding" in a tribal and local sense. The typical MO of Strauss (and his followers) is to drag out the bogeyman of historicism / relativism, and then to invoke liberal universals (from "natural right") to combat these Quixotic threats. The perceived problem and solution places Strauss and the neocons antithetical to any accurate understanding of paganism. Sent at: 2008 08 21