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Entry: Is There Conservatism Beyond Christianity? (or how to book a mental vacation in Athens or Valhalla) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/is_there_conservatism_beyond_christianity_or_how_to_book_a_mental_vacation#23283 Post contents: John Rutowicz wrote: "While uniformity in dogma is not the hallmark of a religion..." Catholics would aver that it is the hallmark of the One, True Religion. Grant Havers wrote: "Thomists are also prone to using pagan ideas of 'natural hierarchy' to hammer the alleged libertinism of Protestantism, even as they enjoy the freedom which the Protestant separation of church and state made possible." What a silly thing to say. Are you suggesting that Thomists lock themselves up so as not to be guilty of hypocrisy (for "enjoying" the fruits of freedom of speech while arguing against it, for example), or that Thomists somehow <i>rely</i> on the separation of Church and State to do what they do? If the first, it's a dumb argument. This is like liberals arguing that conservatives must accept liberalism because it's their tolerance as liberals that makes conservatism possible. No, it's not. The second interpretation is even more absurd. How can a doctrine require Enlightenment Protestant patronage when that doctrine itself was born and prospered a couple of hundred years before Martin Luther was even born? Sent at: 2008 09 07