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Message: Entry: Is There Conservatism Beyond Christianity? (or how to book a mental vacation in Athens or Valhalla) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/is_there_conservatism_beyond_christianity_or_how_to_book_a_mental_vacation#23361 Post contents: since the values he taught, such as meekness, humility, not revenging wrongs, turning the other cheeck [sic] and loving your enemies, ideed [sic] do not seem to be part of the Jewish tradition. Absolutely untrue, and clear defamation of Jews. All these moral concepts are in the Tanakh. For starters, and for the ethical ideal of the "Old" Testament, see Jobchap 29-31, noting that 31: 38-40 are a copyist's error and belong earlier in the discourse. As for our Lord's teachings in Matthew 5: 21-48, learn something about Rabbinics and the "hedge around the Torah"! As for humility and meekness, try Psalm 130 (Protestant and Jewish counting 131). The general ignorance about Judaism is quite astonishing. People who claim to know the "Old" Testament clearly have never read it! Sent at: 2008 09 07