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Entry: "Never Again" Nation Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/never_again_nation#23625 Post contents: Oy. It is unfortunate that Mr. Roach falls into the same muddled thinking as neocons vis-a-vis Nazis and refugees. The Nazis were not German nationalists. There were Pan-Aryaninsts, and in the case of der Fuherer, happily saw the unworthy Germans burn before them. a union of Norse/Germanic countries is anti-Nationalist and the Nazis despised true nationalism and conservatism. I'm sure that JP Zmirak could do a better job explaining this. Regarding the canard about the St. Louis and 1939, it is all wrong. There is a huge difference between immigration and refugee policy. The US would not have been substatially changed had Jews been interned in Cuba rather than be sent to their deaths. But the failure of the US to allow in refugess, or even of the anti-Semitics bastards at the State Department to FILL QUOTAS, does not change the fact taht the US had no moral obligation to intervene against Nazi Germany until Hitler followed the Tripartate pact and declared war on us. The only moral obligation was to help refugees, which could have been done in Cuba. Israel is subject to the same, if not worse, liberal thinking as America. Hence Israel supported the Bosnian Muslims and Croats against Serbia and the Kosovars. Israel even let in Bonsian Muslims, knowing full well that many "Palestinians" and "Arab"-Israelis are actually descended from Yugoslav Muslim colonists/refugees of the Ottoman collapse, and knowing how Haj Amin Al-Husseini raised an SS Division from Bosnia, which killed more Jews than Russian soldiers. Neocons make unprincipled exceptions from liberalism for Israel, just as they do for America. The number of and specifics of the exceptions varies by individual. However, most neocons recoil at real nationalism. I apreciate Mr. Havers for pointing out the obvious, that neocons are not real Zionists. Find one neocon who supports a serious Israeli nationalist party like National-Union (especially Moledet faction) or the Feiglin faction of Likud. Neocons speak of security and democracy when talking of Israel's borders, sounding like Rabin-light. for all the delusions of neocons fomenting a European-Islamic war, I don't know weather to laugh or cry. I wish it were true. However, neocons lack the sense or intellectual honesty to admit that the problem is Orthodox Islam, which calls for eventual World Caliphate and dhimmitude. Neocons cannot accept this, since race and religion cannot matter. Hence they oppose reducing Muslims immigration into Europe and support Turkey's entry into the EU. (Who says neocons know history. I suppose Manzikert and 1453 mean nothing.) Finally, Ed. Zionism means supporting the existence of the state of Israel. 80%+ of Americans are Zionists. Sent at: 2008 07 06