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Message: Entry: "Never Again" Nation Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/never_again_nation#23649 Post contents: "Finally, Ed. Zionism means supporting the existence of the state of Israel. 80%+ of Americans are Zionists." Nice try, Ron. Zionism comprises all of the Greater Israel initiatives Larry mentioned, and then some. It also includes notions of institutionalized racialism, Jewish supremacy, and a petite Pan-Hebrew version of the Pan-Aryaninsm you mentioned above, international in scope. 80% of Americans probably THINK it means merely supporting the existence of Israel, but if that's all it amounted to, even I would be categorized as a Zionist. In fact, moderate Israeli Jewish nationalists who merely want to live in a Jewish state without all the baggage might do well to distinguish themselves from the Zionists and Zionism, which has grown into a full blown international ideological and social network. You think all those wealthy AIPACers don’t do big business together (some of it of questionable legality) based on their Zionist ties, that has nothing to do with Israel? Now duplicate them by hundreds of similar organizations around the world, and you’ve put your finger on Zionism. Sure, they’re entitled to freedom of association, but lets not pretend they operate in the best interests of their respective countries, or that the extent of their agenda is ensuring the existence of Israel. Come on, Ron, do the writers on this site appear to you to have hay on their shoulders? Sent at: 2008 07 24