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Message: Entry: Fads, Tradition, and Real Knowledge Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/fads_tradition_and_real_knowledge#24480 Post contents: For terrestrial purposes, a geocentric world is perfectly valid. Sidereal tables, drawn by competent scientists, still list the times for "sunrise" and "moonrise." For extra-terrestrial purposes, we use a heliocentric model. The truth is indeed fixed and immutable, but our relation to it is relative. "Relativity" always implies a fixed and immutable point. For Einstein's theory, this was the speed of light. What we see depends on where we stand. For the person who mocked the Labor Theory of Value, at least get its origins right: it is not from Marx, but from Smith and Ricardo, and before them it is implied by Aristotle and Aquinas. And nobody held it in the form you quote it. Sent at: 2008 07 24