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Message: Entry: Declining "The West" Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/declining_the_west#24693 Post contents: Richard, When it comes to defending the West, could it be that focusing on the threat from Islam means barking at the wrong tree? The reason for this suspicion is the question: what would the people who made West say about us? To make the question more concrete: with the eye of your mind, visualize the founding fathers of the Mayflower observing a football weekend on any modern US college campus; Imagine them walking down State Street, watching the drunken crowds in search of some sex. What would the founding fathers say? What would they do? (Probably get right back aboard the Mayflower and sail away, mumbling nervously about Sodom and Gomorrah. Though I wonder where they would go? Certainly not back to the Netherlands.) The cause of the decline is internal, and battling Islam will do nothing to stop it. Sent at: 2008 12 02