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Message: Entry: Sanger Once Again Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/sanger_once_again#24785 Post contents: I am confused by what Mr. Kirkwood means by saying self-ownership is a metaphysical impossibility. If a man doesn't own himself - doesn't possess agency or free will - then who does? In any case, I must strenuously disagree with the idea that self-ownership could ever justify killing another innocent person, let alone a person whose helpless predicament is the result of one's risk taking. The victims of abortion don't commit suicide, after all. The notion of self-ownership stands in opposition to someone else trying to take your life, or you trying to take someone else's. Sent at: 2008 07 24