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Message: Entry: Neocons and the Left: Know Your Enemies Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/neocons_and_the_left_know_your_enemies#2499 Post contents: The problem that many traditionalists have with discussing race is that they see it as a Modernist construct, and thus reject it. Some aspects of racial theory certainly are modern, but such inquiries were also brought about by the ease of transportation and contact with non-Western peoples. They somehow fail to see that Pre-Enlightenment Europe was not a colorblind propositional nation, but rather a collection of ethnocentric tribes. Perhaps a better approach with these people is to stress the ethnocentric nature of pre-Modern Europe, to stress ancient concepts like kith and kin, and the fact that 'nation' as the Latin 'nascere' suggests implies link by blood. Both Greek democracy and Roman republicanism were predicated upon tribal systems, and the very basis of Roman conservatism, the 'mos maiorum', stressed ancestral traditions ('ancestral' being the operative word). A resuscitation of "the ancestral" would probably be more persuasive with these people than talking about race and IQ, although there is a time and place for the latter. Sent at: 2008 05 16