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Entry: Benedict on the Border--A Showdown over Church and Nation-State Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/benedict_on_the_border_a_showdown_of_church_and_nation_state#25097 Post contents: FYI. To all those who use this forum to badger the Living Magisterium in the name of some imagined knowledge of Tradition, put this in your schismatic thuribles because this is evidence you must never allow to be publicised. <B>Council of Constance</B> <I>In the name of the holy and undivided Trinity, Father and Son and holy Spirit. Amen. This holy synod of Constance, which is a general council, for the eradication of the present schism and for bringing unity and reform to God's church in head and members, legitimately assembled in the holy Spirit to the praise of almighty God, ordains, defines, decrees, discerns and declares as follows, in order that this union and reform of God's church may be obtained the more easily, securely, fruitfully and freely.</I> <B>First it declares that, legitimately assembled in the holy Spirit, constituting a general council and representing the catholic church militant, it has power immediately from Christ; and that everyone of whatever state or dignity, even papal, is bound to obey it in those matters which pertain to the faith, the eradication of the said schism and the general reform of the said church of God in head and members.</B> <B>Next, it declares that anyone of whatever condition, state or dignity, even papal, who contumaciously refuses to obey the past or future mandates, statutes, ordinances or precepts of this sacred council or of any other legitimately assembled general council, regarding the aforesaid things or matters pertaining to them, shall be subjected to well-deserved penance, unless he repents, and shall be duly punished, even by having recourse, if necessary, to other supports of the law.</B> Everything old (schism) is new again. (the insane hateful heretical antisemitic sspx) <B>Consistory Allocution of 2 June 1944, "The mandate Confided to Peter", Pope Pius XII stated:</B> <I>Mother Church, Catholic, Roman, which has remained faithful to the constitution received from her divine Founder, which still stands firm today on the solidity of the rock on which His will erected her, possesses in the primacy of Peter and of his legitimate successors, the assurance, guaranteed by the divine promises, of keeping and transmitting inviolate and in all its integrity through the centuries and millennia <B>to the very end of time the entire sum of truth and grace contained in the redemptive mission of Christ.</B> <B>Pope Pius IX: Quanta Cura</B> 1) <I><B>"We cannot pass over in silence the audacity of those who, not enduring sound doctrine, contend that 'without sin and without any sacrifice of the Catholic profession assent and obedience may be refused to those judgments and decrees of the Apostolic See, whose object is declared to concern the Church's general good and her rights and discipline, so only it does not touch the dogmata of faith and morals.' But no one can be found not clearly and distinctly to see and understand how grievously this is opposed to the Catholic dogma of the full power given from God by Christ our Lord Himself to the Roman Pontiff of feeding, ruling and guiding the Universal Church."</B> <B>Proposueramus quidem "To Michael the Emperor" 865 a.d. </B> <I>...Furthermore if you have not heard us, it remains for you to be with us of necessity, such as our Lord Jesus Christ has commanded those to be considered, who disdained to hear the Church of God, especially since the privileges of the Roman Church, built upon Peter by the word of Christ, deposited in the Church herself, observed in ancient times and celebrated by the sacred universal Synods, and venerated jointly by the entire Church, <B>can by no means be diminished; for the foundation which God has established, no human effort has the power to destroy and what God has determined remains firm and strong...</B> For you Sedes and schizzies - Scripture, Tradition, Magisterium declares that no man, even one in league with the devil, can destroy the foundation God established and the modern Popes are not ones rational beings can claim are in league with the devil. Even IF the Pope were in league with the devil you would still be under his authority ... <B>If a pope is foreknown as damned and is evil, and is therefore a limb of the devil, he does not have authority over the faithful given to him by anyone, except perhaps by the emperor</B> was a proposition of Wyclif which was condemned at the Council of Constance. The sedes and schizzies, despite their absurd claims to expertise and their personal judgments about H.M. Church, are but Protestants in Fiddlebacks - and poorly informed ones at that. Sent at: 2008 07 20