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Entry: Benedict on the Border--A Showdown over Church and Nation-State Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/benedict_on_the_border_a_showdown_of_church_and_nation_state#25296 Post contents: Patrick, Do we have record of Jesus clearly and publicly chastising every sinner every time he encounters him? Also, do we have knowledge of the Holy Father's personal conversation with George Bush? Remember too, that the President is not a Catholic. Do not forget, that the Magesterium's position on the Iraq war is very clear. If it is not widely known by non-Catholics, that is lamentable, and perhaps our fault. But, the Iraq war, as evil as it is, is not the only evil in progress, nor the only concern of the Holy Father or the Church. We are not a "single issue" community. I think our last Pope especially helped the hierarchy understand that we live in an age of sound-bites. This can be an advantage and disadvantage. I am certain that the Holy Father is ever-cognizant of this as well. (O, that more American bishops were as well.) All of those things taken into consideration, I sympathise with your outrage and wish that there was more public decrying of the tradgedy. I wish I could find some meaningful civil disobedience to participate in. Sent at: 2008 07 24