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Entry: Where The Grapes Of Wrath Are Stored Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/where_the_grapes_of_wrath_are_stored#25319 Post contents: It surprises me that someone familiar with Orthodox culture would write this. As early as the sseventeenth century the Serbs recognized various groups of their own language/religion to be kindred, and, though deivided between empires, helped each other out as local communities. This is not to say that they were political nationalists seeking a Westphalian state, but that there were ties far beyond the local community. Eventaully of course they pushed for their own state, not only in the Ottoman empire but in Southern Hungary. The peoople of the low coutnry fought as a nation against the Spanish empire -- uniting far beyond local villages. Germany and Italy were both recognizable as culture nations, the gradual political union of both was not some random process but a propoer alignment of the cultural and political. Both, obviously, exceded their bounds eventually, but that was due more to the ideology of imperialism than to nationalism. Sent at: 2008 08 29