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Message: Entry: Where The Grapes Of Wrath Are Stored Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/where_the_grapes_of_wrath_are_stored#25333 Post contents: Webster’s: Nationalism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially: a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations of supranational groups. "historically nationalism has signified something else: an abstract commitment to a nation that isn’t necessarily concerned with the well-being of a particular people in a particular place (traditionally denoted as patriotism). . . The nationalist, properly defined, is preoccupied with either a mission or with “greatness” or both." The word Nationalist historically has often been used to describe groups trying to get out from under the boot heel of some foreign oppressor. The word you are looking for is indeed imperialist. Nationalists, like internationalists, may be imperialist or anti-imperialists (most imperialism today is internationalist in nature - the great territory wars are over - at least for now). Bush isn't really an imperialist though, he really isn't even an internationalist. he and his Republican bigwig cohorts are just amoral big businessmen who are willing to go along (to get along) with the internationalism of the dominant cultural elite (that is to say, the real political power) as long as they can still protect their class and personal interests. That's what "compassionate conservative" means. If Bush and crew were really nationalists we wouldn't be in Iraq, nor would we have a border problem. You can't believe in "creedal nation" and be a nationalist, period. Creedal nation's practical manifestation, mass immigration, is internationalism turned inward. The nation-state isn't disappearing any time soon, we're not going back to some arcadian utopia where people owe their allegiance to their town or region because the organized have an advantage over the disorganized, and a proper nation-state is the largest and most efficient organization that can be built around the (ideally) shared cultural interests of its citizens, driven in large part by technology. Your village isn't going to compete with a China, it will be dictated to by a China. Westerners who abandon the nation-state are merely choosing to commit historical suicide, others won't be as foolish. Sent at: 2008 10 13