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Entry: The Truth About the "Good War" Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_truth_about_the_good_war#25908 Post contents: <i>Morris states his facts coldly and to hell with the consequences.</i> And so shall I. Adriana beat me to it. Talk about a Straussian Hidden Teaching! Ol’ Leo’s was pretty transparent: that Christianity be a bad religion and democracy a bad <i>Staatsform</i>. Taki’s now presents his Hidden Teaching: “How sad that Benito and his understudy lost!”. Mind you, I’m not saying that Taki now has a Brown or Black Shirt and a NSDAP card. It’s just that, awash in salivating hate for Neocons and Cultural Marxists, he’s become the “Far Right’s” useful idiot, as did many conservatives and Catholics in the 20s and 30s. Paul Gottfried needs to ask himself if he’s become the same. Such Faustian bargains ought be avoided. Taki makes no effort to present the story of Herzl, and his run-in with Georg Schönerer, and what prompted Herzl’s founding of Zionism. (See John Lukacs on this). What Herzl saw on a small scale, the 30s and 40s saw on a large one: the genocide attempted on the Jews. So Jews, with some good reason, felt the need to have a piece of the earth they could call their own – or be wiped out. Churchill’s errors have been known for decades. Taki misses one of them: his “weak underbelly” strategy. The unconditional surrender demand and the refusal to work with the July 20th group were equally serious mistakes. That doesn’t change the correctness of the war against the Axis, or the honor of the man who led it. So now this website has crossed the Brown Rubicon. The expulsion of the more blatant antisemites now appears only to be a fig leaf. No wonder Taki 2.0 has fallen silent; it’s filthy author has won. I’m glad that two of my usual opponents now have distanced themselves, rightly, from Taki’s thesis, Mr. Roach and (I think) Mr Havers. I thank them. Now that the Brown Rubicon indeed has been crossed, they need to join Adriana and all the rest of the honorable and get the hell out of here. Paul Gottfried, Mr. Epstein, and Mr. Hadar should do the same or resign themselves to spitting on the graves at Auschwitz of his tribesmen. And the best writer here and an honorable man, Dr. Zmirak, I pray now has discovered suddenly that he’s playing court jester in Obersalzburg and the Villa Torlonia and draw the consequences. Ditto Mr. Piatak, who needs to get out of here for a different reason. <i>unfortunately there is a world of difference between what we did over Europe--flying by day and trying to hit military targets [sic]--and what we did over Japan--flying by night and dropping incendiaries over cities filled with wooden structures. </i> Mr. Piatak is ignorant of the Hamburg and Dresden firestorms, is ignorant of what 4000 degrees will do to brick, and thus ignorant of historical and chemical facts. But in his theological principles – <i>that not only must the war be just, but so must be the means employed </i> – he is quite learned and correct. This ain’t a Catholic-friendly website anymore, Mr. P! <i>There is no moral justification for the killing of civilians in war</i> And that includes, Dan, civilians in the Balkans, many of whom were Croats and Bosniaks. Again, the moral principle is correct; Dan’s application is selective. Alas, 3rd and 4th Generation War and the War for Existence as a People destroys the tripart separation of civilian-state-army and thus are wars particularly bloody. See van Creveld on this. I welcome Ron L. and I’ve learned something from Mr. Johnson. “tim” is making sense also, or at least some sense. Speaking of sense, readers would do well to compare and contrast the discussion of <i>Human Smoke</i> at LewRockwell.com. That discussion has its problems as well, but no insinuation that Fascism and fascism are really swell, groovy, and cool. An afterthought. The other honorable man who led the fight against the Axis was De Gaulle. May is the 50 anniversary of his other great achievement. And 08 is the 40th of the revolution that causes most of what we're suffering form. Expect no good analysis of either at Takimag. And I'm still waiting for a good analysis of Gianfranco Fini and his party. Has he paved a way for Paleo's to go? Now I suppose the view of him on Takimag will be the same as Alessandra Mussolini's (who looked better when we saw more of her -- if you get my drift). Sent at: 2008 07 24