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Message: Entry: The sad state of American feminism: a great Mother's Day gift! Link: http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/the_sad_state_of_american_feminism_a_great_mothers_day_gift#26159 Post contents: Charles, You mean this "argument?: "In the good old times, such women and men as Marc describes would likely have realised that God did not make them attractive to the other sex because their vocation was religious life." It really isn't much of an argument, but here goes: You have no way of actually knowing 1) whether God creates people with specific vocations in mind and 2) what those specific vocations actually are for any individual. Sent at: 2008 07 06