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Message: Entry: Judicial Tyranny Lives Link: http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/judicial_tyranny_lives#26402 Post contents: Judicial tyranny my rusty dusty! The real problem is that marriage exists in two realms, the spiritual and the legal, and they aren't exactly the same. Lest I offend those who are far more spiritually enlightened than I, let's just say that that part is between man and/or woman (men and women?) and God, period. The legal part is an enforceable contract providing certain benefits and certain responsibilities. My understanding is that, in France and Israel, one goes to the church, temple, mosque, ashram, or the place of choice to get united in the sight of the Lord, which union has little or no legal effect. To form a civil union, or enforceable contractual relationship, the proper venue is City Hall, the courthouse, or maybe the Justice of the Peace's establishment. Why one shouldn't be able to form a civil union with the party of one's choice is a question which should have an obvious answer to those of libertarian leanings if not the social conservatives. If I should wish to enter a legally enforceable relationship with Francis the talking mule, I should be able to do so if Francis is agreeable. Marriage in the sight of God is another matter entirely. Didn't former Senator Goldwater state flatly that his kind of conservatism kept government out of people's personal lives? Sent at: 2008 10 12